Post AvOpBwf2FhVESLqOQa by kushal@toots.dgplug.org
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 (DIR) Post #AvOoamjIDJuawM7GBk by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:12:21Z
       
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       Gawd.. trying to get another place to live is kinda uh.. depressingRenting a place to live is currently very hard on the Netherlands, and many other places I guess and buying is no option either wayEven the most "cheap" places are between 15-20K😩Guess I shouldn't complain, there are too much people without anything
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOowNboICXLOtugvQ by Engelsbaeckerei@norden.social
       2025-06-22T20:16:17Z
       
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       @stux It's ok to *complain*. Everybody has their problems.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOpBwf2FhVESLqOQa by kushal@toots.dgplug.org
       2025-06-22T20:19:01Z
       
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       @stux 15-20K of what currency?
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOpCXdukpah9abWJk by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:19:14Z
       
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       @kushal The scariest, Euro
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOpQpkyCjgFO2ifK4 by kevinrns@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:21:49Z
       
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       @stux Complain that the government policies are building de housing. Its a machine driving people from homes.OTHER POLICIEStax empty units higher than occupied.Tax listed AIRbnB at occupied.Set aside land that can't be sold, just for residential units. Build units every month.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOpbIropLmcZDunbM by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:23:42Z
       
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       @kevinrns Oh tell me about it..It has gotten so much worse the past years, it's not funny anymoreI was born and grew up in a house that my parents had build, i was learned that if i followed society and did my part I also could get something like thatBut it's a freaking scam.. it's impossible
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOpkmXbrwztCoyxjk by Mnemonic@masto.hackers.town
       2025-06-22T20:25:13Z
       
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       @stux it's your duty to complain :blobcat_salute: Because me, you, and a lot of Dutchies are having these problems, while 'we' are spending billions on war thingies.:blobcathuggiessad: too bad it will take like years to fix it even if 'we' were spending money correctly.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOpqMjyhwTgvNQj3I by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:26:26Z
       
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       @stux huh, voor dat geld krijg je hooguit een parkeergarage. Begint bij 200k
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOq0kUJGqb9TH3J2W by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:28:19Z
       
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       @Shadedlady Ik zit te zoeken naar "permanente bewoning" voor een bungalow/stacaravan of zoietsBen bang dat als we een huis-ruil doen we weer een zelfde situatie belanden en dan alle moeite voor niets is geweestOp dit punt zou ik nog in een doos in het bos willen wonen als het niet voor de katjes en gf was.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOq5kwizhWYLAjNMu by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:29:13Z
       
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       @stux ah,dat is heel moeilijk in Nederland. Heb je gedacht over vlak over de grens?
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOq7v4UJtM2K3OT4a by kevinrns@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:29:40Z
       
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       @stux Yes it is a scam.Its arranged dehousing. Accompanied by investment conpanies buying up residential units and land. Its a very much a part of billionairism. They're building the Dark Ages.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOq9U0buOt8y7KEzo by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:29:53Z
       
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       @Shadedlady Hmm.. wellicht is dat een idee! Geen idee wat komt kijken bij immigreren danMomenteel wonen we 20min van de Duitse grens
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqCZKOaZCgKn3Equ by engravecavedave@mastodon.social
       2025-06-22T20:30:22Z
       
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       @stux @kushal a month?! That sound insane. I hope I'm misinterpreting and it's a year
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqG517E5JTU7hv4C by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:31:03Z
       
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       @kevinrns Also..No offense, but boomers.These days these are TOO MUCH boomers who have saved up cash and go around buying houses to rent or flip increasing the price more and moreSometimes i feel like our parents don't give a fck about us, it hurts
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqGaGn1rGqPiHNIm by grob@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:31:07Z
       
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       @stux what is the 15-20k for? Rent for a certain time? Or sell price for a number of m2 living space? :think_bread:
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqJe3ZPFah1jYV4i by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:31:43Z
       
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       @engravecavedave @kushal No, no, buy 😉 Cheapest buy is around that priceRent is around  800-1300 eur on avg
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqNUU2wMBWUlm0O0 by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:32:25Z
       
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       @grob A little charlot with some small lot on a park for exampleOr a small vacation home where one can live permanently
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqRvcjyXXVpMxKcK by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:33:13Z
       
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       @kevinrns *my dad can be like that and i hate it
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqU0kfsfXGJKezOS by engravecavedave@mastodon.social
       2025-06-22T20:33:32Z
       
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       @stux @kushal oh thank god ... shit's still pricey though, I get it
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqUFxzJS67Uy0KjA by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:33:39Z
       
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       @stux het is zeker iets om rustig over na te denken. De landen hebben ook merkwaardige regels waar je niet bij stil staat misschien. Zoals in Duitsland als je een auto hebt moet die in je garage geplaatst worden, dus die mag je niet ombouwen. In België hebben ze hele strenge regels voor afvalscheiding. Zo zijn er vast nog talloze dingen waar we niet bij stil staan. Maar Benelux is denk ik eenvoudig en Duitsland in de EU moet ook geen probleem zijn toch?
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqeKrBz91fYsdEPI by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:35:24Z
       
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       @Shadedlady True that! Echter in comparison zijn dat kleine dingen om aan te passen :cat_hug_triangle: Duitsland zou nog wel een optie kunnen zijn, ik ga eens kijken hoe dat zit! Het liefst willen we naar Spanje of Italie om uiteindelijk te settelen maarja.. ik ben bang dat daar vermogen voor nodig is
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqmnah2Mm2zjwy4u by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:37:00Z
       
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       @stux o nee juist goedkoper, maar dan zit je niet aan zee. In het binnenland zijn uitgestorven dorpen.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqtoveSd0ZAi6Ldg by johnrohde@helvede.net
       2025-06-22T20:38:09Z
       
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       @stux @kevinrns The wife and I got into the housing market after the 2008 crash, until then we were also locked out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOqur8djPQQJWfclk by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:38:27Z
       
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       @Shadedlady Dat maakt niet uit I guess! Maar om er heen te immigreren, spullen te verhuizen, en dan daar nog iets huren/kopen :blobcatgiggle:
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOr4e8GwSnesAAOy8 by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:40:09Z
       
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       @stux een campervan kooen en tijdje daarin leven tot je iets permanents vind? Alleen heeft spanje net problemen met toeristen, dus misschien is Italië dan makkelijker
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrAZt5dZJZRdtTOa by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:41:17Z
       
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       @Shadedlady Yup :blobcatgiggle: dat is wel iets recents inderdaad
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrGqUkntz8goV1yC by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:41:22Z
       
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       @stux o en ps in Spanje is de hitte dus niet uit te houden in de zomer. In Catalunya gaat het nog wel
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrGrRFIQlzcDrk8m by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:42:24Z
       
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       @Shadedlady Haha dat is een beetje het ideeElk jaar lijkt het alsof de 'winterdepressie' steeds verder inzet dus zou graag naar een plek willen waar het altijd zomer is, even though more extreme 😇
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrLPk7h9QtAQrniS by kevinrns@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:43:18Z
       
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       @stux Blaming an age group reduces the resolution of the picture of the problem.Not enough pixels.Policies matter.Policies to encourage real estate flipping as the primary retirement funding system are machines that throw people put of homes.Policies to tax empty units less than rented units are machines that de-house your neighbours.Berlin voted in a referendum they want to nationalise Berlin's 250,000 corporate apartments.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrMCtiwFE9cOjez2 by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:43:24Z
       
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       @stux ik snap je
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrS8YVzkvBtBdv16 by grob@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:44:20Z
       
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       @stux ah! Very different from typical living spaces where I am: here you usually get apartments in large blocks or detached houses with a single family unit.Average cost here is ~15€ per m² and month or ~5000€ per m² if you buy the place (prices vary hugely on location and quality though). Which is completely insane. Just checked Amsterdam and other large NL cities and it's even more there! How are you supposed to pay for that?
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrScslF2wRwfLVjs by FallsMom@mastodon.coffee
       2025-06-22T20:44:28Z
       
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       @stux Here it is mostly companies buying houses to flip as"investments" Houses are were you live not investments!Good luck on your quest!
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrSzFu3gWdKoLIrg by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:44:37Z
       
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       @kevinrns That true indeedIt's indeed a lot of policies and tax reductions here that make the issue a lot bigger and they refuse to address it since it'll costs them votes
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrbXVqZiCBtjsWIa by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:46:07Z
       
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       @grob Yes that..I have no earthly idea anymore 😿
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrkie0YboV1p4ZW4 by grob@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:47:47Z
       
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       @stux 💸🫂
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOruga94zvdWo1DIO by kushal@toots.dgplug.org
       2025-06-22T20:49:36Z
       
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       @stux @engravecavedave Eeeks. That is costly. Though #Stockholm is also insane in the same way.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOrz9cB4v8ujK6FQ8 by kushal@toots.dgplug.org
       2025-06-22T20:50:16Z
       
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       @stux Btw, you meant 200k Euro or 20k Euro?
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOs0PXFN7XqOcOPZ2 by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:50:39Z
       
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       @kushal I meant 20 😉 200 would be a huge diff haha
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOs45VLmrV9QlG7GK by kushal@toots.dgplug.org
       2025-06-22T20:51:19Z
       
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       @stux 20k euro for a 1 room apartment?
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOs9hm2vjdFZJkMbI by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T20:52:21Z
       
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       @kushal Some yes, but it's buying 😉 not rentingRent for 1 room appart would be 400-800 eu p/m perhaps, depending
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOsycKCwuCLRC0D0i by architektdiewelt@mastodon.social
       2025-06-22T21:01:32Z
       
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       @stux tell me about it, we are looking for 3 bedroom apartment and it’s almost impossible to find anything. Not even within reasonable price or quality, just to find 3 bedroom apartment is a challenge by itself 🙈
       
 (DIR) Post #AvOvjCVuvpdeu8otZw by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
       2025-06-22T21:32:23Z
       
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       @stux cheapest buy in the Hague is 160.000€
       
 (DIR) Post #AvP9LFyhnZpa3blJJY by ninetiger@writing.exchange
       2025-06-23T00:04:49Z
       
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       @stux 💗
       
 (DIR) Post #AvPH1egv0OyIXrbfqy by Puck@sfba.social
       2025-06-23T01:30:57Z
       
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       @stux @kevinrns Here (Florida) it's 30 to 40 year olds doing the flipping. Unless you have cash to buy outright you can't get a house here. The last year the market has slowed, so hopefully it's a bit better.