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(DIR) Post #AvCxsb2eyTnJawDw8m by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-06-17T02:59:55Z
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Click to focus was always a bad idea and only became a good idea when touch screen PCs came along, focus follows mouse is much more intuitive.
(DIR) Post #AvCyIGIyhDBwoH5vxg by ryanabx@mastodon.social
2025-06-17T03:04:34Z
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@BrodieOnLinux focus follows mouse is good for tilers. I can’t say the same for floating windows
(DIR) Post #AvCyp9InklaYeBh5Gq by mausmalone@mastodon.social
2025-06-17T03:10:30Z
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@BrodieOnLinux oof, now that's a take.I have one app on my work-issued Windows PC that immediately steals focus when scrolled over and it's a GIGANTIC pain in the ass. I end up having to minimize it just so I can use drag-and-drop with other apps.
(DIR) Post #AvCzITBCvbjoh67gps by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-06-17T03:15:53Z
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@ryanabx The way you make it work is how KDE does it where window raising and window focus are 2 separate actions, you gain window focus by moving the cursor onto the window and you can now type in it, but to raise the window you have to click it.This eliminates the problem COSMIC has where windows jump up and down.
(DIR) Post #AvCzmKRrxHtiIn9dI0 by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:21:14Z
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@BrodieOnLinux "much more intuitive"- Brodie Robertson, 2025
(DIR) Post #AvCzvwlIsNZljepZKK by monotonehell@aus.social
2025-06-17T03:22:59Z
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@BrodieOnLinux contrary view: follows mouse focus is annoying when you want to type in a window but move the mouse cursor out of your way. Or when you need to type in one window while using the scroll wheel to scroll another.Good thing it's configurable in sane desktops.
(DIR) Post #AvCzvxJgoX57SIv1vM by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:23:00Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @ryanabx window raising and window focus are 2 separate actions, you gain window focus by moving the cursor onto the window and you can now type in it, but to raise the window you have to click it.That's not focus follows mouse though.; very different thing.
(DIR) Post #AvD01kk0TyRcBszcHo by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:24:02Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @ryanabx window raising and window focus are 2 separate actions, you gain window focus by moving the cursor onto the window and you can now type in it, but to raise the window you have to click it.That's not focus follows mouse though; very different thing.To my knowledge the only OS that doesn't have that behavior by default is MacOS.
(DIR) Post #AvD0Qext5wxvW3MVHc by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-06-17T03:28:34Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit Use a desktop that implements it properly like KDE, raise and focus should not be the same action
(DIR) Post #AvD0UZlYMmUAYASaIK by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-06-17T03:29:17Z
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@monotonehell That's a very niche use case but I guess that's fair, that's 1 point for click
(DIR) Post #AvD0dzwkOgRUM0Blp2 by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:30:56Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Oh, I see what you mean now...Sounds gross.
(DIR) Post #AvD0llFUvUF75Rf2KO by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-06-17T03:32:23Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit When windows aren't overlapping you just move your cursor over to the window, no need to click anything. When they are overlapping then you can click the window
(DIR) Post #AvD0pwNbU5cUlaRfQ8 by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:32:27Z
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@BrodieOnLinux On what occasions do you need to type in a window that isn't raised?
(DIR) Post #AvD0pxZL3wbKSGwYLo by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-06-17T03:33:03Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit When they're not overlapping
(DIR) Post #AvD0qzIC8kuo5dPlVw by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:33:19Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Well yeah, the only one (to my knowledge) that isn't like that is MacOS.See https://infosec.exchange/@Linux_in_a_Bit/114696578526948475
(DIR) Post #AvD0vNostGgJJmniEK by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:34:06Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Raising a window doesn't matter when their not overlapping though?
(DIR) Post #AvD15ZLIu4Xjx3p0ro by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:35:57Z
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@BrodieOnLinux If you can't interact with a non-raised window, it's either broken or its MacOS.
(DIR) Post #AvD1H8usys2BT2z3NA by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:38:03Z
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@BrodieOnLinux You don't need focus follows mouse in order to directly click or otherwise interact with a non-raised window.That's just the default...
(DIR) Post #AvD1Q5pPpeQiUnh1Oq by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:39:29Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Have I been misunderstanding what you're saying?
(DIR) Post #AvD1Q6zjUmHE75Wm7U by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-06-17T03:39:40Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit I feel the same way lol
(DIR) Post #AvD2tPCWz1aSvp2usC by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T03:56:07Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Ok, what about this behavior?In my mind this is standard, default stuff, not focus follows mouse or click to focus (requiring an extra click to focus like https://youtu.be/zOgRmw1atFU?t=732) - it's the middle ground, everything is focused always, ready to be interacted with.
(DIR) Post #AvD3x1Zur1QYmNH26S by nickelson@fosstodon.org
2025-06-17T04:08:01Z
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@BrodieOnLinux No
(DIR) Post #AvD41PNEKEthjnQk5o by Linux_in_a_Bit@infosec.exchange
2025-06-17T04:08:46Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Ok, what about this behavior?In my mind this is standard, default stuff, neither focus follows mouse (allowing window interaction without raising windows) nor click to focus (requiring an extra click to interact like https://youtu.be/zOgRmw1atFU?t=732).It's the middle ground; interaction raises windows, but the first click always interacts with the window.
(DIR) Post #AvD41eRgHyN2Twd0c4 by Lu_Die_Milchkuh@mastodon.social
2025-06-17T04:08:51Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @monotonehell Niche? Maybe on Linux if you use Tilers but that is common on everyother operating system. Especially if there is no way to auto hide your cursor after a given delay or as soon as you start typing. Also scrolling while the another window is in focus is really useful. Example scrolling through documentation while having your IDE focused.
(DIR) Post #AvD4UdRp4rEJmlVzou by just1number@fosstodon.org
2025-06-17T04:14:05Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I've been using this on KDE (no tiling scripts) and I get very annoyed, when I have to use Windows for work. Constantly changing the application state, when I just want to get focus. E.g. I use Notepad a lot to copy text around. If I want to paste something to the end of the content, when the cursor is already at the end, I have to click a specific area to get focus or I have to go to the end again.
(DIR) Post #AvDCbTn2BOQlUbD9CC by Semmelstulle@mastodon.social
2025-06-17T05:44:56Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @ryanabx *macOS keyboard focus enters the chat*For real, keyboard focus should be linked to mouse focus, not to raised window.
(DIR) Post #AvDGNuVYRrtK7TovPk by amberdambey@mastodon.social
2025-06-17T06:27:19Z
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@BrodieOnLinux ive been using hover-controlled focus on kde since i found out i had rsi, and i really wish i had done it sooner. its just better than having to click all the time (especially when clicking is painful)
(DIR) Post #AvDaL3GlPodlVVofuC by deadvey@mastodon.tuxcord.net
2025-06-17T10:10:06Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Thank you! I bloody hate click to focus.
(DIR) Post #AvDq1ed4OxHYqr1S3E by gtb@social.linux.pizza
2025-06-17T13:06:31Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Speaking of accessibility, focus on hover is a mess 🙂