Post AvBAQPq5wUXZpWJrvM by SunflowerUnruh@toot.community
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 (DIR) Post #AvB45NRl2k2AbTWLrc by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T03:25:39Z
       
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       Anyone who unironically uses the term "Bernie Bro" in the big 25 should not be taken seriously. People who are uncritical of the Democratic party shouldn't be taken seriously.Socialism or barbarism. That is the path we have in front of us. We can either implement ecosocialist working class democracy (and give everyone nice things like free college and access to a doctor), or we can sacrifice our lives on the altar of neo-fascist slavery until climate change ends agriculture as we know it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvB45OLlgUpxPBj5AO by pawsplay@dice.camp
       2025-06-16T03:50:50Z
       
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       @burnoutqueen Okay but are we going to talk about Bernie's white socialism and how that played into his failure in the primaries?
       
 (DIR) Post #AvB45PGqGIUUGCQf7w by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T03:52:28Z
       
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       @pawsplay There is a criticism of bernie that can be made on the basis of his incorrigible reformist tendencies and his blind spots towards racism and imperialism, but very few people who do make that criticism use the term bernie bro
       
 (DIR) Post #AvB45Q2hOMluecosim by pawsplay@dice.camp
       2025-06-16T03:56:08Z
       
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       @burnoutqueen It's not fashionable but I think it's still useful to talk about how there were a lot of Bernie voters who were willing to let POC and gender minorities bear the burden for their electoral ambitions, destroying the campaign's rationale from within. I never cared for the phrase "bernie bro" and it's obsolete now, but i know exactly what someone is saying when they say it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvB45QjwnZMmol3Q8G by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T03:58:16Z
       
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       @pawsplay American politics in general is very racist. This includes all of the Democratic party.Bernie merely got more scrutiny for his racism because the progressive coalition in the US has higher standards than Biden shills and MAGA freakazoids
       
 (DIR) Post #AvB45Ra3fp3BQNR2MC by pawsplay@dice.camp
       2025-06-16T04:55:26Z
       
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       @burnoutqueen I don't entirely agree with that. I think Hillary Clinton had a more engaged understanding of structural racism. Bernie absolutely fumbled the ball on BLM and really just didn't want to talk about structural racism because it didn't fit his class paradigm. He said POC needed to focus on economic egalitarianism and equality would follow, and frankly, people have heard that tune before.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvB45SU4JZqyE5dley by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T04:57:28Z
       
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       @pawsplayHillary Clinton was literally the secretary of state for the racist and genocidal US empire. She isn't a warrior against structural racism, she is a former leader of it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvB45UVYn0EcVILzGK by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T03:28:07Z
       
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       Capitalism has delivered us live streamed mass murder, college debt, and shitty car centric infrastructure that kills tens of thousands of people every year.Fuck that shit, and if you think we deserve that rubbish you are not worth my time
       
 (DIR) Post #AvB45b70Ehkaz9uySO by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T03:29:18Z
       
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       The pro-oligarchy line of the Democrats has delivered us to Trumpist Nazism, and so help me god we should fight for a better future than that
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBAQPq5wUXZpWJrvM by SunflowerUnruh@toot.community
       2025-06-16T03:42:38Z
       
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       @burnoutqueen Why don't we lay blame with the Republicans? For example:  Nixon, Reagan, Newt Gingrich, GHW Bush and 2nd Bush and Dick Ceney AND Fox News AND everyone who bought all the Racism & hate and spurred them on?  How about Gerrymandering in Red State that gives us the steep climb for Electoral College and for Senate majority?
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBAQR2XTi5ZYP9JxY by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T03:46:24Z
       
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       @SunflowerUnruh you need to think deeper. While the Republicans are outwardly evil in a way the Democrats arent, they both serve the same class interests (hint: not yours)
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBAQRxG4pSWOJgcMq by SunflowerUnruh@toot.community
       2025-06-16T03:52:23Z
       
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       @burnoutqueen But your statement ( the one to which I responded to) laid No blame with Republicans.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBAQSUa4w783fHEJ6 by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T03:56:25Z
       
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       @SunflowerUnruh The Republicans are always going to be evil. They literally cannot help it. It is like asking a rabid dog to not bite people.The Democrats, who pose as Very Serious People and make the big talk about reigning these people in and preventing them from being as vicious, have done too much to enable their policies and too little to actually stop them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBAQSvsRRwrQK31qy by ariaflame@masto.ai
       2025-06-16T05:59:48Z
       
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       @burnoutqueen @SunflowerUnruh So you do hold Democrats to a higher standard. Basically you don't think republicans are people? Which says a lot about you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBAQTRQY9BZ0AoE1w by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T06:05:54Z
       
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       @ariaflame @SunflowerUnruh the Republican party is filled with racists who gleefully cheer for mass murder and genocide. I find it hard to feel sympathetic to them for this reason, and I also have no indication that the GOP is anything other than a Nazi adjacent cult at this point.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBAQaihUKA5ZlwcQS by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T06:07:43Z
       
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       @ariaflame @SunflowerUnruh Republicans are people, in the same way that the Fascists, the Falangists, and the Nazis were people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBFks1VMdHKntEH9k by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T06:15:32Z
       
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       I cannot in good faith say that the Republicans are good people who are safe to be around. They are fanatical bigots who threaten my life, liberty, and happiness. They also offend every ethical principle I care about, and they have shown a complete hostility to the democratic process and political dissent.I use a rabid dog as a metaphor for the fanaticism of fascist ideology, and for the futility of negotiating with fascists or relying on their humanity to protect the interests of oppressed people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBFkyvjgTp6E1aGdU by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T06:18:29Z
       
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       Democrats purport to have human dignity and empathy. They claim not to be fanatics and they claim to uphold the democratic process.That is the standard I hold them to.I hold people to their promises.Republicans promise political barbarism and genocidal bloodthirstiness towards Arab, Muslim, transgender, and Latino people.Democrats do not
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBFnxoiHP85doilsG by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T06:23:23Z
       
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       @domo If you have read some of my other comments on the Democratic party, you might know that I actually agree with you
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBFo4yXfG9PqKNDfM by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T06:24:28Z
       
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       @domo I have commented a lot on Democratic support for the ruling class and their complicity in racism and imperialism
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBFpHqJJH882W6CkS by holdenweb@freeradical.zone
       2025-06-16T06:41:50Z
       
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       @burnoutqueen @domo so much that I fail to see why you think they are a viable alternative and not the other cheek of the repressive ass that would govern the world.
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBFpJ9qQ8Lk7OFJpo by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T06:44:41Z
       
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       @holdenweb @domo I don't think the Democrats are a viable alternative. I have advocated for an independent socialist party multiple times
       
 (DIR) Post #AvBFpR335HfQad80Lw by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-06-16T06:46:24Z
       
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       @holdenweb @domo smh can't you read earlier in the thread?