Post Ata4JzlyI3ucReuFai by bnewbold@social.coop
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 (DIR) Post #Anrcif923onTZ32Wzw by shadowfacts@social.shadowfacts.net
       2024-11-08T16:09:11.006310Z
       
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       @cwebber the expectation is that you will not host your own relay, you will use someone else's
       
 (DIR) Post #AnrcigK3gJD9DXCqp6 by foo@fosstodon.org
       2024-11-08T16:20:28Z
       
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       @shadowfacts @cwebber This is very much sounding like decentralized-as-in-bitcoin
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDhd5F2tTP20u87Zg by drq@mastodon.ml
       2024-11-08T16:36:52Z
       
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       @cwebber That's what I like about the Fediverse and its projects. They're basically self-contained, with very little base maintenance cost, even those engines on the heavier side, like Mastodon or Misskey. Leaves more leeway for horizontal scaling, more people can afford it.Bluesky kinda looks designed by billionaires for other billionaires.@Claire
       
 (DIR) Post #Ata4JzlyI3ucReuFai by bnewbold@social.coop
       2024-11-08T19:00:34Z
       
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       @cwebber @Claire @eramdam don't think the goal w/ atproto is to be "more decentralized" in the abstract. we (team) had worked on SSB and dat, which were radically decentralized/p2p but hard to work with and grow. would not supplant "the platforms".atproto came out of identifying the *minimum* necessary decentralization properties, and ensuring those are strongly locked in. we basically settled on:
       
 (DIR) Post #Ata4K2r2pekk0GIqPo by bnewbold@social.coop
       2024-11-08T19:04:28Z
       
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       @cwebber @Claire @eramdam unbundling and composition: ability to swap components w/o swapping full stack.credible exit: ability for new interoperable providers to enter network. public data must be accessible w/o permission, and schemas/APIs declaredcontrol identity: whole network/proto doesn't need to be individualist, but identity is personaleasy to build new apps: don't build for the old modalities, enable new modalities. accomodate opinionated devs.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ata4K45cEy0Dpk7zlY by bnewbold@social.coop
       2024-11-08T19:04:51Z
       
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       @cwebber @Claire @eramdam I have a longer post on this, and our progress, on my personal blog:https://bnewbold.net/2024/atproto_progress/
       
 (DIR) Post #Ata4KCAADwOUsAJjxw by bnewbold@social.coop
       2024-11-08T19:16:12Z
       
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       @cwebber @Claire @eramdam I think a bunch about this post about the history of mp3 piracy and "minimum viable decentralization":https://web.archive.org/web/20180725200137/https://medium.com/@jbackus/resistant-protocols-how-decentralization-evolves-2f9538832ada(though it wasn't directly influential on atproto design, and Backus has since pulled the post)