Post AtUZAhi7ihZX3XEhM0 by ati1@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AtTbyUOX62xz2QaI76 by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
2025-04-26T07:47:30Z
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@lepirelot Pixels are the most secure Android devices and the only ones with proper secure production support for using another OS. They're the only devices meeting our requirements listed at https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices. There's no paradox involved. The purpose of GrapheneOS is providing a highly private and secure device. The purpose of GrapheneOS is not boycotting certain companies based on misconceptions and inaccurate media coverage. We do not say the purpose of GrapheneOS is to "degoogle".
(DIR) Post #AtUZAdtftoR3ECbrns by lepirelot@mastodon.social
2025-04-26T07:35:50Z
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@GrapheneOS C'est un peu paradoxal de devoir acheter un #GooglePixel pour installer #GrapheneOS dans le but de #dégoogler son #téléphone 🤡Et si vous construisez des GraphenePhones qui font un mix entre les #Pixel pour la #sécurité et les #fairphone pour la longévité et la facilité de réparabilité?#android
(DIR) Post #AtUZAeSlnKVYz31tVQ by ati1@mastodon.social
2025-04-26T08:43:44Z
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@lepirelot @GrapheneOS That would be great. Safety of a degoogled os that is entirely based on google - delivered hardware and google "good will" not to block those hardware safety features for 3rd party OS-es (like Samsung does reportedly) -> that is a non starter for me.
(DIR) Post #AtUZAf8bHny74mbIhs by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
2025-04-26T16:28:28Z
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@ati1 @lepirelot There are no options for you then. There is no other reasonably secure device with support for using another OS. You can use an iPhone and be happy with that, because you'll only get something dramatically worse from other companies which mislead you about what is provided.
(DIR) Post #AtUZAfc1WPVKY2MnZI by ati1@mastodon.social
2025-04-26T16:39:44Z
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@GrapheneOS @lepirelot Can you precise what you mean by "reasonably secure device" and "dramatically worse" here? Say I'm using Lineage with MicroG or /e/OS on Fairphone 5 ... Am I in such a dramatic situation that my 16 years old neighbour can easily take over my phone with no physical contact after 2 week "youtube hacker course"? Or is it dramatic because I'm voulnerable to a targreted $100k+ attack that would not be possible on Graphene or iOS?Also would it be better on stock Android Samsung?
(DIR) Post #AtUZAgJGvc6CiAbKym by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
2025-04-26T17:56:59Z
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@ati1 @lepirelot /e/OS has absolutely atrocious privacy and security, far worse than the median Android devices. It lags many months behind on shipping High and Critical severity privacy and security patches. It doesn't take a sophisticated attacker to bypass the complete lack of security it provides. It's vulnerable to proof of concept exploits published months after patches were shipped. A stock OS Samsung device is far more secure than /e/OS. /e/OS doesn't do the absolute bare minimum.
(DIR) Post #AtUZAgzoNS7uq6VJHk by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
2025-04-26T17:58:17Z
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@ati1 @lepirelot In what sense do you think it's safe to use a device where the OS provider doesn't properly sign their builds and lags many months or even years behind on providing patches? Regularly going 3 to 6 months without providing browser engine updates alone is absolutely horrific. Drive by browser exploits with zero day vulnerabilities are relatively common but we're talking about months old vulnerabilities with proof of concepts often published on GitHub, etc. not being patched.
(DIR) Post #AtUZAhi7ihZX3XEhM0 by ati1@mastodon.social
2025-04-26T18:46:44Z
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@GrapheneOS @lepirelot I don't think it's safe, I was trying to use opportunity to speak to you here to get to know how unsafe you think it is. And what with Lineage OS, Calyx? Others? Are they all interconnected and inherit same update lags / lack of security patches? Or is it only /e/OS?
(DIR) Post #AtUZAiSCxMR3MSnVBY by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
2025-04-26T19:02:19Z
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@ati1 @lepirelot /e/OS is much worse but neither LineageOS or CalyxOS preserves the standard Android security model or provides proper privacy/security patches. All 3 projects mislead users about what they provide, but /e/OS does it the most followed by CalyxOS. LineageOS largely doesn't pretend to be something it isn't. /e/OS is directly a fork of LineageOS, and LineageOS itself greatly reduces privacy and security vs. AOSP,. but /e/OS is much worse. CalyxOS is partially based on LineageOS.