Post AtTPfxVdQUTuNpItzU by LightTheUnicorn@lighttheunicorn.horse
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 (DIR) Post #AtRiAaWULeXQvdXQHo by evan@cosocial.ca
       2025-04-25T01:49:07Z
       
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       A junior developer broke production. Do they get to help fix it?#EvanPoll #poll
       
 (DIR) Post #AtRiAbbUKY8EHQsvia by clacke@libranet.de
       2025-04-25T10:00:08Z
       
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       @evan At first glance I read this as "will they get help to fix it", as in, will somebody assist them in cleaning up their mess. 😁
       
 (DIR) Post #AtRiUJ0XBCfAOgzfm4 by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-04-25T10:04:01.037740Z
       
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       @evan You fix it and you make them sit there and watch you so they feel maximum shame.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtRuRDvumyvhEx87jE by mrcopilot@mstdn.social
       2025-04-25T04:51:39Z
       
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       @evan yes and may they enjoy their deserved 15 minutes of fame so thoroughly they remember it always.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtTPfltebMZ2MqRulM by evan@cosocial.ca
       2025-04-26T02:26:33Z
       
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       I have to admit that I'm not great about this. More often than not, I will get leads and seniors and myself together to fix the problem, and not even identify the responsible party. When they come in on Monday, they will get a talk with me or a lead, and we'll go over the problem with their code and how to avoid it in the future, and maybe the link with the outage will never be made explicit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtTPfn3yGUPXz8HfU0 by evan@cosocial.ca
       2025-04-26T02:28:43Z
       
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       I would like to shift to having more participatory fixes, so people understand that it's part of the job. I think adults also like to be treated as accountable and allowed to help clean up their own mess. So, I'm no, but I want to improve my process.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtTPfqQPlV98Pbo8Nk by kevinbowrin@ottawa.place
       2025-04-26T01:04:13Z
       
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       @evan Of course, they just participated in a very impactful training exercise. 😄
       
 (DIR) Post #AtTPfxH6IWr5ekVIKu by bhawthorne@infosec.exchange
       2025-04-25T13:31:55Z
       
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       @evan Yes, but they also receive additional training on the importance of always waiting until they are out the door at 5pm on Friday before pushing to production. Right, @jerry ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AtTPfxVdQUTuNpItzU by LightTheUnicorn@lighttheunicorn.horse
       2025-04-25T13:35:16Z
       
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       @evan Yes, but... they will have to listen to the ancient tales from all of us who also broke prod while getting help!
       
 (DIR) Post #AtU7Rnl7giko1N0H7w by clacke@libranet.de
       2025-04-26T13:37:41Z
       
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       @evan In most cases, isn't the immediate fix a rollback? After that, the junior can take their time pairing with a senior to figure out why it went wrong and implement it correctly.For minor errors I will just write a fix, but for me it feels straight up rude to fix someone else's grave error without giving them a chance to do it themselves.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtU7SmFKnWZTcRbFY0 by genehack@dementedandsadbut.social
       2025-04-26T05:59:06Z
       
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       @evan all of that but also, if you don’t get to help clean up, you never learn HOW to clean up. It’s a critical part of career progression.