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(DIR) Post #AtN5gwsU5zI6gOQVdY by cdarwin@c.im
2025-04-23T04:30:27Z
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How does anyone know that these guys in plainclothes š„and wearing balaclavas are legitimate federal officers, and not kidnappers?And what happens when a "good guy with a gun" kills a "bad guy with a gun" who turns out to be a Fed?It will happen https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/crime-courts/article_9ce921d6-5f61-4546-b0c9-ea2287d8bf16.html
(DIR) Post #AtN9FnaWvS4PryL1DU by oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social
2025-04-23T05:10:20Z
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@cdarwin Very important questions, Chuck!In these abductions, people claiming to be ICE officers do not look or act like professional law enforcement. In one case, it was said that some were Bureau of Prisons officers. I.e., prison guards -- probably not trained for what they are doing on the streets, and possibly not well-versed in the law. In another recent case, the smiling "officer" smashing a car window with a pick is an ICE-deputized member of a "citizen militia" (vigilante) group.
(DIR) Post #AtNApWWnvqF3L0C66q by jamesmarshall@sfba.social
2025-04-23T05:27:59Z
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@cdarwin exactly. It's bound to happen.
(DIR) Post #AtNg2W10FOsW5fzhYG by Davexxx@mastodon.social
2025-04-23T11:17:42Z
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@cdarwin The United States has become what Germany was at the end of 1930! It's surrealistic, ugly and a complete disgrace! š
(DIR) Post #AtOxWM3Nk2z4GGsgts by deFractal@infosec.exchange
2025-04-24T02:08:17Z
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@cdarwin IANAL, but from what I've seen of US case law, when police fail to self-identify as such and, while not recognizably police, impose imminent risk death or grievous bodily harm (which is generally presumed in cases of kidnapping), if the attacked person survives police-gang revenge, the court case outcome usually depends on the race of the person asserting self-defence to excuse use of lethal force against an assailant. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/texas-no-knock-swat-raid/However, there was one at least one exception case: that of Cory Maye.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Maye
(DIR) Post #AtP0UfWChUlJujFYn2 by patmikemid@sfba.social
2025-04-24T02:41:36Z
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@cdarwin Truly looking forward to pink shirt getting named and shamed.
(DIR) Post #AtP2AqMyqWD1gXbteC by darren@c.im
2025-04-24T03:00:15Z
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@cdarwin There was an incident in Mpls where cops shot non lethal rounds from a van at a guy, who then returned fire, not knowing they were cops. It cost the city $1.5M. Self defense held up in Minnesota. Who knows, I am sure we will find out soon. https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-to-pay-1-5-million-jaleel-stallings-police-shot-at-less-lethal-rounds-from-unmarked-van/600173976
(DIR) Post #AtP3n72jP32oM4x0im by faraiwe@mstdn.social
2025-04-24T03:18:31Z
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@cdarwin and, IMO, sooner than we expect.Anyone shows up at a locked door, demanding entry or surrender of a person and fails to-identify themselves, property, as Federal LEO- show a warrant (that they fo not have)...is just an armed thug.The US is a stupidly armed place.Castle law states.Frankly, if ICE gestapo thugs get greased, who's lamenting their loss? Not me.
(DIR) Post #AtQEojewbhll45lEsS by integerpoet@sfba.social
2025-04-24T16:56:48Z
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@cdarwin They are in plain clothes and balaclavas because on some level they know they are not actually the good guys.
(DIR) Post #AtUrtyg7HPVpt12Egy by tend2wobble@toad.social
2025-04-26T22:33:35Z
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@cdarwin ICE coming face to face with a Concealed Carrying US citizen may prove interesting.
(DIR) Post #AtUs8Tw9rDVwt6SF0a by djg@toad.social
2025-04-26T22:36:12Z
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@cdarwin This has happened in the past, a competition pistol champion was at home. Plainclothes detectives conducted a no knock warrant (had the wrong address) and he killed both before they got a chance to yell āpoliceā. He was fined for discharging a firearm within city limitsā¦of course he wasnāt minority so the follow up uniformed police allowed him to surrender unharmed.
(DIR) Post #AtV4J4e3QorT56ntg0 by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2025-04-27T00:52:32Z
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@cdarwin Time to surround America's Courthouses, a hundred deep.Like Scotland.