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(DIR) Post #AtHMbtCYrvSA6cEOau by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T10:11:40Z
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To prevent deer from being hit by cars Finland has tried using reflective paint. (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/avoid-deer-strikes-finland-painting-deer-antlers-reflective-paint-180949792/)File this under "solutions to modern problems that summon the old gods."
(DIR) Post #AtHN4gR9PGjsulmkee by trinsec@trinsec.org
2025-04-20T10:15:28.115Z
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@futurebird@sauropods.win That looks pretty cool!
(DIR) Post #AtHN4hHGHWQHWOAMsa by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T10:16:51Z
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@trinsec They were doing it in 2014 but I'd love to see some follow up on if it was really practical and if the paint was safe etc. etc. Still I just like the photo... it's eerie isn't it!
(DIR) Post #AtHNrBNve5runYP8bo by yala@degrowth.social
2025-04-20T10:25:32Z
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@futurebirdWhen this last circulated, the image to the right was debunked a Blender rendering.@cwebber
(DIR) Post #AtHO6NTqxOKMeiQAcq by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T10:28:26Z
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@yala @cwebber And that explains why I couldn't find a source. Just articles about how they were planning on maybe doing this and less evocative photos.
(DIR) Post #AtHOHAs6B2EIjduTnU by catsalad@infosec.exchange
2025-04-20T10:30:21Z
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@futurebird Lightsaber antlers!
(DIR) Post #AtHOYgIsZDL78tmgfw by immersfer@mementomori.social
2025-04-20T10:33:28Z
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@futurebird @trinsec Kuka tietää maalataanko poron sarvia vielä heijastinmaalilla? #lappi #porot
(DIR) Post #AtHPOWFTCEJb12uLZo by lnlyisol@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T10:42:51Z
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@futurebird When I searched for "reflective reindeer", I got pictures of reindeer holding their chin in their hoof, looking pensively upwards.
(DIR) Post #AtHPPfS0T5WvqUJrTU by gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-04-20T10:32:01Z
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@yala @futurebird @cwebber https://goodshomedesign.com/reindeer-reflective-paint/ this link have an update on the subject. The experience was only in 2014, they found an app work better, the link's first picture is also an edit, maybe not the 3rd one where the glow effect is a lot less impressive
(DIR) Post #AtHPZZ8kmkxRAa29i4 by GoblinQuester@dice.camp
2025-04-20T10:44:49Z
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@futurebird @trinsec As the reindeers use their horns to "shovel snow" I guess it can wear off and also there is a lot of them so in order to get enough of them painted ... I find it more of a media stunt to raise awareness.But it do look cool!
(DIR) Post #AtHPwB9y6syPSLNvFY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T10:48:59Z
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@lnlyisol I'm so disgusted with the state of search these days. It's not just the AI it's the AI slop combined with the mushy "let us tell you what you really meant" search results. Obscure band names, artists, concepts are "corrected" to more popular words. "ant" is swapped for "art" if I'm looking for anything cute or amusing ("cute art stickers" NO I want "cute ANT stickers")It's like modern search is trying to make everyone hopelessly basic and boring. Only popular things exist.
(DIR) Post #AtHQ6EvKyE2W1fL34q by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T10:50:48Z
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@riley Again? ... did the reindeer not let the ones with the paint "join in their reindeer games"?Why are reindeer such relentless conformists??
(DIR) Post #AtHQbbKNitACUI0V0a by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T10:56:29Z
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@lnlyisol Am I just getting old? One of the things that made me fall in love with the internet is how if you looked for something, no matter how obscure, no matter how unlikely if someone had gone to the trouble of making it you could find it. That just isn't true in the same way anymore. It's more likely you will be redirected to a more "normal search query" It "works better" for many people most of the time. But, that's at the expense of making everything strange hidden.
(DIR) Post #AtHQq2AOjVyFmVDfCi by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T10:59:06Z
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@lnlyisol What I find hard to imagine is that there must have been people who were annoyed, frustrated that they typed "cute ant stickers" and obviously "ant" was a typo! who would want "ant stickers" gross, right?The computer ought to "know" that no one would want to see that and show them what they meant. The needs of that person are more important than whatever I'm trying to do. But I also wonder if that person really exists. Are people happy this happens?
(DIR) Post #AtHR64VhmrdFgQpiPw by lnlyisol@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T11:01:57Z
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@futurebird I remember learning all the Google search syntax; how you could force a term to be included, and other term(s) excluded, and enforce a date range, and other options I've now forgotten.Now, the process is:do a search, then channel the energy of frustration into reporting every ad thrown at me as being Malware, or untrustworthy, or irrelevant, then try to recall what I was searching, then scroll down a few pages with fingers crossed.
(DIR) Post #AtHR9iickYFdFwcDvk by lenatrad@piaille.fr
2025-04-20T11:02:36Z
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@futurebird I’m a translator. I used to be able to find anything very quickly on the Internet. Not any more. Search engines have become dire. @lnlyisol
(DIR) Post #AtHRMkw1oz4ZtV6L0C by pbloem@sigmoid.social
2025-04-20T11:04:57Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol In the early days, there was a lot to do about "the long tail". How the internet made it worthwhile to cater to niche subjects because you could cast such a wide net.I felt this died when companies like Netflix became big. They started focusing on things with mass appeal. They could have broadened their catalog with lots of cheap, niche movies that a few people would like but they never bothered. I think it would still make them money. It just doesn't generate prestige.
(DIR) Post #AtHRdtsDqCe0XWUo9Q by jerzone@techhub.social
2025-04-20T11:08:03Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I get that even with dictionary lookups on the mac. Highlight a slightly obscure word that “sounds like” something else and apple just says screw it, we'll use the more common word. There's not even a courtesy “we didn't find XYZ, did you mean ABC?” with a link to "no, I meant XYZ , figure it out”.
(DIR) Post #AtHRjxOne8WPD9ccUa by lnlyisol@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T11:08:49Z
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@futurebird Did you mean "mute ant stickers"?Here are some ads for mutant stickers :🤪
(DIR) Post #AtHS8g1POLh0YXT5Mm by luigirenna@infosec.exchange
2025-04-20T11:13:38Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol yesterday I was looking for something and the first *two* pages of google results were ads for stuff on sale. The first marginally related link to what I wanted to read was on page three
(DIR) Post #AtHSGiF71AYblFi3rk by mhalila@mastodontti.fi
2025-04-20T11:15:03Z
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@futurebird @trinsec a quick google search found a couple of articles from 2014 but no follow-ups, so I don't think it was continued.
(DIR) Post #AtHSHjUBsh3HuGFUcC by TerryHancock@realsocial.life
2025-04-20T11:15:16Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol FWIW, "ant stickers" worked for me on DDG:https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ant+stickers&ia=web
(DIR) Post #AtHSLj25VZvhev0YF6 by puffer@beige.party
2025-04-20T11:15:58Z
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@futurebird I have an entire concept for a federated, decentralized search platform. I have a long spec written out and everyone I’ve spoken to about it seems to think it has merit. I just have no idea how to code it behind the front end. I’d be happy to share my rough tech spec if you’d be interested.
(DIR) Post #AtHSdQmS6lpqGO8ZJQ by llewelly@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T11:19:13Z
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@futurebird I was going to say, I hope the glow in the eyes is just the natural reflectivity of the tapetum lucidium*, rather than from paint, but since it's a shooped photo, ehh ... (* I'm nearly certain reindeer have this, since I know from experience mule deer, moose, and wapiti have it, and deer generally and most mammals, etc ).
(DIR) Post #AtHTOqkJO31GP7kN9M by RyanHyde@fosstodon.org
2025-04-20T11:27:41Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol Kagi has you covered. @kagihq
(DIR) Post #AtHTc6r8nits8LGQuu by RobertJackson58585858@masto.ai
2025-04-20T11:30:08Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol Yes ... this.I have just looked for Arthur Arrowsmith, a local Wolverhampton artist only to be offered Aerosmith :((
(DIR) Post #AtHTzwjS5qx3gV2A88 by grrrr_shark@supervolcano.angryshark.eu
2025-04-20T11:34:27Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol this is why it kills me. I know how to find most normal things on my own - finding the strange unicorns is what I need Internet search for
(DIR) Post #AtHUbbIwD29uERaSTw by noplasticshower@infosec.exchange
2025-04-20T11:41:15Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol welcome to the middle of the Bell curve. It's like TV that way.
(DIR) Post #AtHV90KeB74tPTJZAm by noplasticshower@infosec.exchange
2025-04-20T11:47:16Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol just wait until the recursive pollution loop iterates a few times
(DIR) Post #AtHVIJAfVKwIRc5FE8 by syntaxseed@phpc.social
2025-04-20T11:48:56Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol It's like being gaslit by the search engine over & over. 😞
(DIR) Post #AtHWNb8oDgNhZzIfY0 by heiglandreas@phpc.social
2025-04-20T12:01:05Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol OK. We've tried this "Search engine" stuff. Can we go back now to yellow pages?Or newsgroups?
(DIR) Post #AtHWyaeezTJsmmpz2e by Dataless@dice.camp
2025-04-20T12:07:48Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol Yesterday I was watching a video essay and the essayist used game footage as passive background visuals. I thought the game looked interesting but didn’t know what it was, so I typed some of the proper nouns into Google. It changed all of them to the nearest English word and the result was no use whatsoever.
(DIR) Post #AtHXW1zaN4nZ7zZSxk by sahqon@beige.party
2025-04-20T12:13:51Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol My problem isn't so much with the search engines (those can be managed, swapped, etc) but with the first page of results being ai generated sites. Any good engine should have some report function to exclude those and then auto-exclude every other thing with the same content so they don't get reincluded on a different name. The first one is doable with addons, but there's a hundred different versions of them, which should be automated somehow.
(DIR) Post #AtHYIUTZlxiDMuhplg by rbairwell@mastodon.org.uk
2025-04-20T12:22:36Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol Yep, it's getting really annoying. Searched on DuckDuckGo and Google last week for "ds2015xs jellyfin": they suggested multiple pages of results: about installing Jellyfin on most models of Synology - but I Included that model number for a very specific reason (those guides don't work on it): had to manually check handful of results to make sure.Searched on Kagi and just ~3 results all mentioning that model number and all going "guides don't work, haven't managed myself"
(DIR) Post #AtHZQbu88creg5YvAm by pacman@swiss.social
2025-04-20T12:35:17Z
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@futurebird Many years ago Scottish farmers whose cows were tending to lie on the remote highland roads in the night (the tarmac being a source of warmth) took to spraying them with a 3M luminescent paint so that drivers would see them. One night a driver in a panic phoned his doctor who had been treating him for alcohol addiction and said he had just seen a luminous cow and was this the first sign of the delirium tremens (DTs) that his doctor had been warning him about.
(DIR) Post #AtHaPVU8cRhqQwRTto by MrDante@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T12:46:15Z
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@futurebird I’d be curious to see how/if this impacted any nocturnal predators of theirs.
(DIR) Post #AtHbGvhRssHn5K8sT2 by Tak@glitch.taks.garden
2025-04-20T12:55:49Z
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@futurebird today I have read stories about cars deploying airbags on the outside, and painting deer to make them more visible to driversI wonder what the actual problem could be here :blobhyperthink:
(DIR) Post #AtHbWMEpUt1fjh72Dw by PunishedD@clubcyberia.co
2025-04-20T12:58:50.869190Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol That person was a common case that scared search engine bean counters. They would search with a typo, find nothing, and go away frustrated. The feature retains engagement on the site.It's garbage and i hate it, but it didn't come from nowhere. It's the same site profitablity metrics that made Google intentionally make search worse in 2019.
(DIR) Post #AtHbiK71E9f4cLAH44 by asakiyume@wandering.shop
2025-04-20T13:00:43Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I agree--I resent this and find it endlessly depressing :-\
(DIR) Post #AtHcSHL1sCh7KodBwW by DekaBlack@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T13:09:12Z
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@futurebird Not real? Pity.
(DIR) Post #AtHcTDdT7nuI8nhjjk by catmisgivings@stranger.social
2025-04-20T13:09:13Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol well, except for the zone of stuff that was made before the web existed and was not yet historic or notable enough to rate a mention in someone's neighborhood memories blog/ get cataloged on discogs/ whateverThat zone shrank but never completely disappeared
(DIR) Post #AtHcu2m9bryoHJYeem by catmisgivings@stranger.social
2025-04-20T13:14:14Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol and yeah, go ahead and show me the results for the thing I actually typed, unless it returns malware or something. I probably meant what I said, and if I didn't, give me a chance to realize what I did and fix it
(DIR) Post #AtHd4pOXhRbJxoekEa by rolle@mementomori.social
2025-04-20T13:16:07Z
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@futurebird Torille!(Ref: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Torille%21)
(DIR) Post #AtHdZYgprH9R8CrkjA by sciandculture@ecoevo.social
2025-04-20T13:21:42Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol when I'm having trouble getting useful results from search engines because my search is too niche (see recent quest to discover how best to use dryer lint for making little sculptures) I find the marginalia search engine more useful. It surfaced a number of articles on the discontinuation of the reflective paint. https://marginalia-search.com/search?query=reindeer+reflective+paint+&profile=corpo
(DIR) Post #AtHeKAXtRZBZrMuQ1Q by TimWardCam@c.im
2025-04-20T13:30:06Z
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@futurebird What worked for me in Oz was the big red stamp across the car rental contract saying "kangaroo damage at renter's expense".(It was explained to me that this was insurance company jargon for "don't drive at night".)
(DIR) Post #AtHegV7BeFlY1c49BI by davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T13:34:11Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol If "A.I." insists on writing art instead of ant, may I suggest we refer to "A.I." as:Arteaters
(DIR) Post #AtHf1V2b7PijsPvrn6 by Crispius@infosec.exchange
2025-04-20T13:38:00Z
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@futurebird Imma just plonk this here…https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/deer-high-vis-jacket-vest-mcbride-bc-1.7392483
(DIR) Post #AtHgEWm856gUyU0Oyu by colinstu@birdbutt.com
2025-04-20T13:48:52Z
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@yala @futurebird @cwebber good. Yeah that pic didn’t pass the sniff test for a second. Original toot needs to be updated.
(DIR) Post #AtHgEXhYdacbqasGUi by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T13:51:21Z
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@colinstu @yala I updated it hours ago? Do you not see:(It seems the image on the right is a rendering to show how this "would" work. Not a real photo. )
(DIR) Post #AtHgMcixqaQrk2Nxk8 by colinstu@birdbutt.com
2025-04-20T13:53:01Z
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@futurebird @yala the update came in after interacting with it. Wish the pic was updated too though.
(DIR) Post #AtHgxz6RbfLBrXBPsm by jackyan@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T13:59:46Z
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@futurebird @riley A lot of reindeer are fine, but that Orlov is a troublemaker. He does get labelled 'the other', which doesnʼt help with his self-esteem, leading to his regular bullying of those in the herd.
(DIR) Post #AtHhBdrrM5wm3ZsEF6 by arnotron@noc.social
2025-04-20T14:02:10Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I am observing auto-correction in apps to search for contacts obfuscating correctly spelled names and searches in clothes shopping auto-correcting product names to something completely different. I am not afraid that AI might replace me.
(DIR) Post #AtHhFeDjz8o6JG1CmO by rabbit_fighter@mastodon.world
2025-04-20T14:02:58Z
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@futurebird I abandoned Google a couple of years ago and now use Kagi as my default search engine. Marginalia is great for finding obscure, small web stuff: https://marginalia-search.com/
(DIR) Post #AtHiC0nIDQzv7ETgUy by jmcclure@sciences.social
2025-04-20T14:13:30Z
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@futurebird So ... that'd be like being abducted by aliens, and when you are returned, your eyebrows glow in the dark.These deer must be really freaked out now.
(DIR) Post #AtHj4PGzQ4KsfoJ0wC by theron29@witter.cz
2025-04-20T14:23:13Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol What about trying:cute "ant" stickers ?Works on #duckduckgo every time 😊
(DIR) Post #AtHje80x42cZZUpyxU by lnlyisol@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T14:28:11Z
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@dedicto @futurebird From my quick search, it seems that pics with that white light are from the actual experiment, and the image with bright orange reflectivity is an artistic (human) creation
(DIR) Post #AtHjidaNcljmeAYiPo by thesquirrelfish@sfba.social
2025-04-20T14:30:36Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol yep, there's studies and articles I've read, I'll remember quite a few of the key terms, and when trying to refer back to it Google will just send me a prominent newspaper referencing it, and then all the slop of that regurgitated by AI sites.
(DIR) Post #AtHk1ecxyXLbNbpvdI by HumToTable@sfba.social
2025-04-20T14:34:01Z
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@futurebird The phrase "make everyone hopelessly basic" is spot on and pretty much sums up the entire zeitgeist right now.
(DIR) Post #AtHk6t6xYJr1kSMSMi by Digit@autistics.life
2025-04-20T14:34:59Z
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@futurebird light-sabre antlers, that'll get drivers rethinking
(DIR) Post #AtHkKBenuWX722X7WC by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
2025-04-20T14:37:20Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol This is a known issue for Google, and as far as Google is concerned, it's working as intended. Typos are common so it biases in favor of most popular search results. If you search logged in, it does tend to learn your preferences eventually, but whether you're willing to search logged in with Google is an individual choice. I don't know that other search engines are vulnerable to these effects or not. Google is definitely playing in a class of its own of too clever for its own good.
(DIR) Post #AtHkXqJq2g2EuIEpvs by idiran@livellosegreto.it
2025-04-20T14:39:51Z
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@futurebird I *stopped* using Google altogether, even though other search engines are a pale shadow of Google-that-was, at least I get fewer "corrections"
(DIR) Post #AtHkafO98cSlsKbFRY by elaterite@fosstodon.org
2025-04-20T14:40:22Z
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@futurebird Yup, it's all about what's trending. Retention algorithms are the engine of enshittification. @lnlyisol
(DIR) Post #AtHkuFXgwVR5VUP0ro by Thad@brontosin.space
2025-04-20T14:43:53Z
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@futurebird I once got "Including results for optamologist. Search only for ophthalmologist?" and I was like yeah, you know, if it's all the same to you I'd like to limit results to people who can correctly spell the medical specialization I'm looking for, thanks.
(DIR) Post #AtHlmvGY2208Y0SBnM by FishNamedDog@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T14:53:46Z
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@futurebird they also double as a defense against a Russian invasion
(DIR) Post #AtHm8O9poAUKEcY7cW by rayhindle@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T14:57:38Z
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@futurebird Herne the Hunter?
(DIR) Post #AtHmzuJoxryRKQjwq8 by rayhindle@mastodon.social
2025-04-20T15:07:20Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I believe it is called “Fuzzy logic!”
(DIR) Post #AtHnTMZD19GBKvz1Ky by stiffelman@mstdn.social
2025-04-20T15:12:35Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol Boy do I ever agree with this.
(DIR) Post #AtHnsdnE6mYa0BaqEy by rspfau@ecoevo.social
2025-04-20T15:17:12Z
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@futurebird I forget this is an issue, until I use a browser on a computer that isn't my own. On my computers, I set this as my default search engine and none of that stuff happens: https://tedium.co/2024/05/17/google-web-search-make-default/Who knows how long this option will exist....but use it while it's available!
(DIR) Post #AtHpn5w0lVGBS8BYXI by rufovillosum@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-04-20T15:38:32Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol @gleick
(DIR) Post #AtHvGFgq4dapsQoMIy by Jestbill@mastodon.world
2025-04-20T16:39:55Z
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@futurebird "let us tell you what you really meant" I just ran into the opposite problem: I searched for a specific thing and could only get lists of similar things that might contain that thing.AAARGH!
(DIR) Post #AtI1ORxWwN0xyFuWw4 by pavsmith@theblower.au
2025-04-20T17:48:38Z
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@futurebird i prefer the original post. i like the idea of neon glowing deer!
(DIR) Post #AtI5XFmjyKxQdXJje4 by hakfoo@mstdn.party
2025-04-20T18:35:01Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol Normal people should never have been given access to computers.When the audience was technical people, they understood there was a sausage being made and could collaborate for the best sausage.Now that the market is "everybody", there's a lot of selling "magic". "We'll fix your mistakes" and "here's a bunch of LLM garbage" both dazzle low-skill users, and steer towards profitable choices. It just comes at the expense of competent users whose queries get clobbered.
(DIR) Post #AtIAT80xQAPH9HorfU by UnCoveredMyths@autistics.life
2025-04-20T19:30:19Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisolI find it interesting.Years ago, before it was called Googling, I would search for something, not find it, and ask for help.People would scream - Just search and find it yourself!Which didn’t work, as I had obviously already done so.However, they had already trained their search engines to display that information. I hadn’t, as I hadn’t found it.Now, I find search easier, and they find search impossible.Maybe I just used to niche of terms back then. Maybe the niche terms became mainstream.And I often have autocomplete and autocorrect off.I wish you luck!
(DIR) Post #AtIAbPfneMtOEVsE3E by bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-04-20T19:31:46Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol @spacelizard I can appreciate not everyone can afford to pay for search, but @kagihq is really good, I wouldn’t go back to google https://youtu.be/ijUfCMd2IL8
(DIR) Post #AtIEyVSqgVYIff5DOq by llewelly@sauropods.win
2025-04-20T20:20:51Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I think the "corrections" are all geared to "correct" things to "what our best-paying advertisers are trying to sell". They don't care whether or not actual human beings want cute ant stickers, they only care that their machine learning crap tells them their best paying advertisers will make them more money if it's "corrected" to "cute art stickers".
(DIR) Post #AtIYdHBAbEDXMty4ky by my_actual_brain@fosstodon.org
2025-04-21T00:01:05Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I searched for average cost of food per day in Tuscany and the top website result said it would cost about $20,000 per day. That site also had multiple listings with various different answers.
(DIR) Post #AtIbzvJGNL2I43FCL2 by bogosity@im-in.space
2025-04-21T00:38:45Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I feel the same way, finding weird stuff was something I used to do in the library back in the day, and I loved having it at my fingertips. Even mainstream items are getting hard to find now on the Internet, and my library skills have atrophied. /Sad face
(DIR) Post #AtIwowgZ1ApABQkWuW by krom@fosstodon.org
2025-04-21T04:32:04Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol well, then you will have to stop using that one search engine you don't name but we all know it and switch to DDG for example, as in there I've found your stickers in the first result.
(DIR) Post #AtJp1IoLyaE3nwjaAi by potatosandwichjen@mstdn.social
2025-04-21T14:39:24Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I used to give clear feedback on searches when search engines actually seemed to be trying to answer the query. They are not trying to answer my searches anymore. Searching on the web is so very different now.
(DIR) Post #AtJphLG7GWsBYhlYFU by Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social
2025-04-21T14:47:00Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol agreed with this 100%.Another effect, due to search trying to find you the most commonly accepted information, and publishers trying to meet that demand, the internet these days is a vast, shallow sea of entry level introductory information, repeated thousands of times over, with mid level and higher understandings frustratingly out of reach.Like everything is the first month and a half of an introductory course. Sometimes YouTube can get you another month and a half.
(DIR) Post #AtJplATRJ3LrGep2Q4 by stevenbodzin@thepit.social
2025-04-21T14:47:42Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol it's the way I feel about automatic spell check and grammar check in everything. No, really, i want the word "i" in lower case. I live in Kwins and go to the Atlantick ocean. It's an intentional joke to say "too" rather than "to". The monoculturalization of language by machines always feels condescending in a very DunkinRuger (yes also a joke) way. The machine is just stupid enough to think it's smarter than you. So irritating.
(DIR) Post #AtJq4BclFmLiKzFd8S by Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social
2025-04-21T14:51:09Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol if it wasn't for compulsively shared Autistic deep dives, nobody would know next level information about anything.
(DIR) Post #AtJqE52UaiAKoJ0Kqe by stilescrisis@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-04-21T14:52:55Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol The challenge is that 99% of users here really DID intend to type "cute art stickers." Autocorrect has to walk a tightrope here. At least the option for "I did mean ANT" is a single click!
(DIR) Post #AtJqIyARZFYywi3SoC by Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social
2025-04-21T14:53:49Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol this is supposed to be the information age, but we are drowning in the shallow end of the pool. And Capitalists want to serve us up more "mediocrity as a service".
(DIR) Post #AtJrbopWbkT1RVp2gK by Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social
2025-04-21T15:06:41Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisolHere's an example. Every single one of us is likely going color blind with age. The yellowing of the material your eye is made of is screening out purple light, its opposite on the color spectrum. So it is getting harder to distinguish shades of purple mixed with red or gray. It is so common that failing at least 1 or 2 tests out of 10 is graded as normal.Now, without me telling you the name, go find it it online and have yourself tested.
(DIR) Post #AtJrhIA8yfO7rd4nNw by cwicseolfor@urbanists.social
2025-04-21T14:59:49Z
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@hakfoo @futurebird @lnlyisol The issue isn’t that they made it available, the issue is we didn’t formally teach people to use it because it was seen as a rich person’s toy, then a way of gatekeeping (to the wealthy and to the potential future servants of the wealthy) for so long it hit critical mass without education in place and sold out to ad companies.That’s when they started disregarding Boolean and really nerfed it for everyone at once.
(DIR) Post #AtJt7ohCk4huFOkgqG by AdeptVeritatis@social.tchncs.de
2025-04-21T15:25:23Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol This may be enshrined in the technology. The language models reduce complexity by calculating basic vectors. The details get lost in the process.Our need to differentiate between small details can not be satisfied with this and never will.
(DIR) Post #AtJwVPkNS7e9gNBDRg by dpiponi@mathstodon.xyz
2025-04-21T16:03:17Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol When I worked at Google they made a big deal about the "long tail". They seem to have abandoned that principle now. The assumption is that anything you say must be the most common thing anyone could have intended.
(DIR) Post #AtJxtfDfg5AmZd0bxI by KarlE@mstdn.animexx.de
2025-04-21T16:18:48Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol so true! I've tried everything that used to work reliably, +"term" i.e. + for must be included, and "" for take this literally, and it still comes up with stuff that doesn't contain the term at all! it's infuriating. And if you don't find a match, say so, instead of listing garbage! then I know you don't have it (or don't want to show me) and I try to widen my search.It's even worse in picture search, searching for some old equipment by name has become totally impossible.
(DIR) Post #AtK0Npelda2lXVCDAm by artemis@dice.camp
2025-04-21T16:46:44Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I searched once for "Frisian cap", looking for images of a type of cap that Frisian women used to wear (Frisians being a European ethnic group found in parts of Germany and the Netherlands) and got all recommendations for "Phyrigian cap", an *entirely* different thing. Even when I used quotation marks, the top results were still "Phyrigian".
(DIR) Post #AtK48pXUBvmOeEtNQm by PedestrianError@towns.gay
2025-04-21T17:28:44Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol It's definitely not just about pushing what's already normative or popular, it's clearly about shaping what's considered normal and pushing right wing propaganda at every turn. Try to look up anyone named Andrew (or Andrea, Andre, Andry, etc.) and they will aggressively insist that you actually want violently misogynistic content from Andrew Tate or his fanboys.
(DIR) Post #AtKKv9YiexXNuBX7CK by econads@mendeddrum.org
2025-04-21T20:36:51Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol also what's an art sticker? Aren't most stickers some kind of art? That seems way too vague to be a useful search.
(DIR) Post #AtKY7FQJyowcyNhc5Q by pteryx@dice.camp
2025-04-21T23:04:43Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol My own personal bugbear of this type: Final Fantasy XI still exists. You can only run it on Windows nowadays, but you can get a subscription and play it and everything. Some people still do!...But not only do searches for it inevitably result in "Did you mean Final Fantasy XIV?", even *talking to other people directly* about FFXI frequently results in people "autocorrecting" what you're talking about to FFXIV in their heads!
(DIR) Post #AtKvNg3p0eHZAJyveS by courtcan@mastodon.social
2025-04-22T03:25:24Z
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@futurebird @lnlyisol I am not happy this happens. It now happens with nearly every internet search, and I am so done. I *might* have been more accepting of AI had the entirety of it been optional. But it is slammed into my face like a puke pie every time I turn around. It is an irremovable stench. I can't wait until the entire AI industry implodes under the weight of its own endless regurgitations.
(DIR) Post #AtNVGJipeOYCWSsDa4 by dalfen@mstdn.social
2025-04-23T09:16:52Z
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@futurebird Absolutely 💯 searching (on just about every browser) is horribly annoying nowadays. @lnlyisol