Post At8dulZsnszuECdV0y by simonbp@social.linux.pizza
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 (DIR) Post #At8dulZsnszuECdV0y by simonbp@social.linux.pizza
       2025-04-15T21:08:17Z
       
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       $500k doesn't seem like much for a whole McDonnell Douglas KC-10 (tanker version of the DC-10). You can barely get a condo here for that. Should I sell my house, buy a KC-10, and live on the KDEN ramp?https://www.flyingmag.com/how-to-buy-a-kc-10/#avgeek
       
 (DIR) Post #At8dum8Gk2VFwqixc0 by tsturm@famichiki.jp
       2025-04-16T02:35:42Z
       
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       @simonbp Comes with all three engines - so I guess non-flyable mostly because the maintenance has lapsed. I wonder how much it costs to get one of these to fly again.
       
 (DIR) Post #At8dumlGP3h9tmy6OO by Haikyoneko@famichiki.jp
       2025-04-16T05:12:52Z
       
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       @tsturm @simonbp to fly, to safely fly, or to fly with a vilid safety certificate? Because these are very different things...
       
 (DIR) Post #At8j9TBrwts3JcEabg by tsturm@famichiki.jp
       2025-04-16T06:11:29Z
       
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       @Haikyoneko @simonbp I guess these planes can fly out of the box, at least for a little while. 😆 Certification costs probably $$$
       
 (DIR) Post #At9CludJGPqW6NkiTA by djb@famichiki.jp
       2025-04-16T11:33:37Z
       
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       @tsturm @Haikyoneko @simonbp it’s a bit of a long story. Military aircraft are difficult to convert to civilian use. It’s based on a DC-10, but heavily modified. There’s no civilian equivalent. It’s probably never been type certified. To get that done would only be worth it for a new design that’s going to be mass produced. Even if it was type certified, the ongoing maintenance and running costs for those would be eye watering. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_certificate
       
 (DIR) Post #At9Clvkn65QNZsGClk by Haikyoneko@famichiki.jp
       2025-04-16T11:43:48Z
       
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       @djb @tsturm @simonbp honestly, getting type approval in the US is an absolute nightmare.The MRJ was perfectly fine airliner, but was really struggling to get type approval in the US until covid finally killed it off.
       
 (DIR) Post #At9CsSbvqdyxDgELgm by djb@famichiki.jp
       2025-04-16T11:45:01Z
       
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       @Haikyoneko @tsturm @simonbp gah, so not fair. 😭
       
 (DIR) Post #At9GkA1zRVyL5ziV1s by Haikyoneko@famichiki.jp
       2025-04-16T12:28:18Z
       
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       @djb @tsturm @simonbp the MRJ was actually good! Although I might be biased...
       
 (DIR) Post #At9NV5DNlamrUfnqF6 by simonbp@social.linux.pizza
       2025-04-16T13:43:55Z
       
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       @Haikyoneko @djb @tsturm The MRJ had spectacularly bad timing. They tried to launch a 70-90 passenger aircraft in the US right as all the major US airlines decided to ditch all their sub-76 pax (scope clause) aircraft and focus on 100+ pax aircraft. Mitsubishi tried to lobby against the scope clause, and it went about as well as throwing an onigiri at a brick wall.It was a fundamental misunderstanding of the US airline market, coupled with an unwillingness to just pivot to Europe, where MRJ could've been a moderate success.