Post ArmPjDWsQec5ABmakS by lizzy@social.vlhl.dev
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(DIR) Post #ArmPjAqGQ7L2pRpX3A by lizzy@social.vlhl.dev
2025-03-06T10:05:17.282169Z
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im really lucky cops can't see the thoughts I'm thinking when i walk past them
(DIR) Post #ArmPjBjD7pI5ZrXPhA by kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net
2025-03-06T10:09:20.948983Z
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@lizzy do these thoughts involve the cops in question?
(DIR) Post #ArmPjCfhcM4wVGu7rk by lizzy@social.vlhl.dev
2025-03-06T10:08:34.450671Z
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@kimapr yes lol
(DIR) Post #ArmPjDWsQec5ABmakS by lizzy@social.vlhl.dev
2025-03-06T10:56:20.275441Z
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@kimapr btw Germany has an offence of "Beamtenbeleidigung", which is when you insult officers. doing it to a normal person is legal but not to an officer. to be fair you can also get your home raided for calling a politician a dickhead on social media tho (this happened multiple times
(DIR) Post #ArmPjEOPDdQnqCpLBQ by kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net
2025-03-06T11:01:01.726266Z
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@lizzy i think here insulting normal people isn't legal either but i don't know the law too well
(DIR) Post #ArmPjF3sjQbluqESpc by luatic@mastodon.social
2025-03-06T13:05:47Z
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@kimapr @lizzy insulting normal people isn't legal in germany either (StGB ยง 185 Beleidigung).insulting officers just tends to result in higher fines (which somewhat makes sense: these people are generally forced by the government into situations where they are more likely to be insulted as they exercise governmental authority, so why shouldn't the government afford them some additional protection via stricter laws).
(DIR) Post #ArmPjFZ4rRYtTapNSK by kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net
2025-03-06T13:12:25.359078Z
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@luatic @lizzy cops don't need protection, they are already in a position of power over common folk. it only makes sense as in of course you'll be punished for disturbing those in power, that's just how power structures work, but it's not like it's "fair" or anything.
(DIR) Post #ArmPjG9weN3JJw4ovA by luatic@mastodon.social
2025-03-06T13:15:56Z
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@kimapr @lizzy Yes, the premise behind having a government and officers is that it exercises some amount of authority.It is rather unreasonable to expect the government to establish an authority just to immediately undermine it by affording it fewer legal protections.Governments aren't fair, but they're generally more fair than what happens when you don't have them.
(DIR) Post #ArmPjGw9l7cJjSdK4G by lizzy@social.vlhl.dev
2025-03-06T13:20:45.075291Z
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@luatic @kimapr a teacher also needs to handle with more insults because he's fucking dealing with kids and kids are brats. no one cares about that. it's part of the job honestly. as a figure of authority you inherently need to be able to deal with criticism, even if it's not very constructive.and if you think that a guy who literally has a gun and a beating stick and can arrest you needs "more legal protections" i don't know what to tell you. you do not understand power dynamics
(DIR) Post #ArmPjHk8lHbEEU1Eye by lizzy@social.vlhl.dev
2025-03-06T13:31:12.093961Z
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@luatic @kimapr when you give people a lot of power, you need to make sure to keep them in check so that they don't abuse it. giving them a blanket check to arrest people they felt offended by is the opposite of what you're supposed to do. what is needed are really strict rules and consequences that they reliably face for stepping out of line, arresting or bullying people for nothing, for abusing their power. when a cop interacts with a person, the person is the one who needs to have special legal protections from the cop, not the other way around.
(DIR) Post #ArmPjIJadTxK0QbYES by luatic@mastodon.social
2025-03-06T13:53:25Z
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@lizzy @kimapr there is no blanket check. take Pimmelgate for example. a judge ultimately ruled it to be illegal and disproportionate. (tbh there should probably have been some compensation after that ruling; then again idk if there were significant damages to be compensated)https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/57701/did-germany-prosecute-one-of-its-citizens-for-calling-a-politician-a-dick-on-twi
(DIR) Post #ArmPjIu6RjA9pfgi92 by lizzy@social.vlhl.dev
2025-03-06T13:55:55.944128Z
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@luatic @kimapr accountability for cops happens sometimes, and yea if it triggers a huge scandal it's likely to have consequences. but most abuse doesn't turn into a scandal at all