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(DIR) Post #ArcShgEf5NRBtecdVo by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-01T18:44:22Z
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How my Firefox became a LibreWolfNew blog-post: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1065/how-my-firefox-became-a-librewolf#firefox #librewolf #tos #webcomic
(DIR) Post #ArcSw5Doz2N1Re64gK by ErikUden@mastodon.de
2025-03-01T18:47:16Z
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@davidrevoy yippiee
(DIR) Post #ArcT0JfXDCDLPT4uFk by ElectroFetish@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T18:47:48Z
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@davidrevoy cute and sad
(DIR) Post #ArcT2DvDYAsAAHK652 by tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr
2025-03-01T18:48:04Z
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@davidrevoy Excellent, as usual.
(DIR) Post #ArcVqHMzCluNFIJ91s by simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
2025-03-01T19:19:24Z
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@davidrevoy @protonprivacy also flounced off Mastodon after they received well deserved criticism.Is @mozillaofficial doing the same? đ«€đ€·ââïž
(DIR) Post #ArcVtdLPxaFAGfApSi by matera@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-03-01T19:19:25Z
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@davidrevoy I'm hooked on the Wolf, been using it for over a year.Once in a while I use furryfox for some fussy-ass site that I have to do one thing on once in a blueish moon.
(DIR) Post #ArcWU2yo7rp0CPxei0 by mray@social.tchncs.de
2025-03-01T19:26:43Z
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@davidrevoy Thank you! Putting the Firefox dilemma in pictures makes it less academic and more approachable issue. I hope many people realize how empowering it is to use free software that can be replaced easily.It is not always so easy:https://video.1146.nohost.me/w/ij3qHTrc55t9izuk6hP7HF
(DIR) Post #ArcWXiVGCPezqntHJA by darkbeth@mastodon.coffee
2025-03-01T19:27:25Z
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@davidrevoy Excellent art, as always.I switched this week too. It was very simple on Linux Mint, but I worry about the future of the Firefox code base.
(DIR) Post #ArcWmSDT2IVhgIayTA by BluesHarp@musicians.today
2025-03-01T19:30:00Z
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@davidrevoy Vivaldi right now and it works great.
(DIR) Post #ArcXrbbrdebiDV1jxw by yalle@corneill.es
2025-03-01T19:42:14Z
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@davidrevoy Ce projet LibreWolf semble sympathique mais pas compatible avec firefox syncs, ce qui est sans doute logique, mais sans alternative.Je teste Ă©galement Floorp...
(DIR) Post #ArcZfUvYrDCtvQavGS by unixcaesar@fosstodon.org
2025-03-01T20:02:29Z
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@davidrevoy I just switched to librewolf as well.
(DIR) Post #ArcZjtdavY2zilHvf6 by jailandrade@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T20:03:18Z
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@davidrevoy @categulario
(DIR) Post #ArcaISY1ddvRq4AF0K by peterainbow@beige.party
2025-03-01T20:09:28Z
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@davidrevoy I wonder what the Linux distros that have Firefox in the default install are going to do going forward?#linuxmint #linux
(DIR) Post #ArcauhTOaw1r8JEWSu by vonstauf@infosec.exchange
2025-03-01T20:16:26Z
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@davidrevoy Thanks for this post and the fun artwork, you convinced me to finally make the jump!
(DIR) Post #Arcaxz77SnQIiINc48 by danielcasanueva@mstdn.social
2025-03-01T20:17:00Z
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@davidrevoy That's very nice!
(DIR) Post #ArcdL9vFdwqSnw0Tw0 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-03-01T20:43:55.446Z
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I now wonder what a GNU IceCat looks like.
(DIR) Post #ArcdvfLOIPOCgKdoMS by mauricepinzon@masto.ai
2025-03-01T20:50:12Z
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@davidrevoy same same.
(DIR) Post #Arce350NHru0IMLWT2 by Kampfdiestel@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T20:51:33Z
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@davidrevoy LibreWolf sounds nice.unfortunately its only available in aur for archlinux, what means i have to build it local. and its veeeeeery big. i started it 90min ago and its still compiling...
(DIR) Post #ArceyWM8GmBrd2ugGu by veroandi@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T21:01:50Z
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@davidrevoy who is behind Librewolf?
(DIR) Post #ArcfBzk6K2VOXBY73g by rejzor@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T21:04:25Z
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@davidrevoy I've gone Waterfox and in just 1 day returned to Firefox because so many things just didn't work that did and still do in Firefox. Which is weird but still.
(DIR) Post #ArcfmgrBVAw8fxMORs by ibrahim_cris@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T21:10:59Z
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@davidrevoy I do not like what firefox mozilla is trying to do but. I like librewolf just... they can not enhance security by delay the code for fixes. It is not good but sometimes takes days. We need to pull togeather and if librewolf fixed this i am fine to change..
(DIR) Post #ArcftjfxQ4c7RgT67U by petunientopf@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T21:12:13Z
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@davidrevoy hachz. Das ist sweet und traurig gleichzeitig.
(DIR) Post #ArcgJkuxQO1qpItLwO by nekohayo@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T21:16:51Z
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@davidrevoy Might we worth mentioning Epiphany (WebKitGTK) in the article for those who may be satisfied with a simpler browser that is still not based on Blink :blobcatcoffee:Playing DRMed content with it isn't really an option, though.
(DIR) Post #Arcgn228rpDWJBDDcm by elgregor@social.librem.one
2025-03-01T21:22:00Z
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@davidrevoy I still use Firefox, but I disabled sending any data to Mozilla.Thanks for not contributing to Chromium monopoly. :)
(DIR) Post #Arcj25qv9NHaPAH0AS by technikhil@toot.cafe
2025-03-01T21:47:25Z
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@davidrevoy For those coming here in search of Firefox alternatives, I just want to point out https://zen-browser.app/ that is also a fork of Firefox though perhaps a more customised fork... Check it out if you are in the mood for trying a different layout from the default Firefox experience...
(DIR) Post #Arcn1MGr1OqQquJAvY by vincent_graphic@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T22:31:53Z
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@davidrevoy would like to get cartoon picture and logo designs đ
(DIR) Post #ArcnO3nnqyDQEXXr7o by eugen@infosec.exchange
2025-03-01T22:36:11Z
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@davidrevoy For me, it is, honestly, sad. I've been using Firefox since... it was Firebird. Twenty+ years.Great art, as always!
(DIR) Post #ArcnveZe9rZdppwSki by marnic@framapiaf.org
2025-03-01T22:42:30Z
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@davidrevoyMerci pour la dĂ©couverte.Mais le souci sera le mĂȘme que Chrome au final, dĂ©pendre de l'Ă©volution de FF pour le code principal.
(DIR) Post #Arco3NOttMaitDb90K by Fat_Farang@mastodon.social
2025-03-01T22:43:40Z
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@davidrevoy Long time LibreWolf user. I have recently installed "Floorp" on one of my machine, also a fork of Firefox. It has the added advantage of being non-US based (Japan). Seems good, but too early to be definitive.
(DIR) Post #Ard2WjWi6cmBGh8yOG by EkpyroticFrood@mastodon.social
2025-03-02T01:25:38Z
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@davidrevoy Thank you for this. I had forgotten about LibreWolf and now is a great time to remember it again. I appreciate your introduction as well. It helps to know what I'm getting into and what I should warn others about before sending them to it.
(DIR) Post #Ard4hqG1cXtdEmlQu0 by Luna@mastodon.world
2025-03-02T01:50:16Z
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@davidrevoy Got rid of Chrome for Chromium I guess Firefox will have to be replaced with an alternative as well since they decided to follow in Google's footsteps.
(DIR) Post #Ard4vOjqjSrlwXB70i by bigTanuki@social.linux.pizza
2025-03-02T01:52:43Z
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@davidrevoy Thank you for being on the right side of history, like ⊠always đ
(DIR) Post #Ard65gxdw71fJE6Plg by vampirdaddy@chaos.social
2025-03-02T02:05:23Z
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@davidrevoy The catoon also works for MoonWolf.đ€
(DIR) Post #ArdJe7ZWnnnt5kZPwe by prakasc@chaos.social
2025-03-02T04:37:35Z
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@davidrevoy how do you compare waterfox? Thanks.
(DIR) Post #ArdMkmNqHKxxGZyFc0 by kagan@wandering.shop
2025-03-02T05:12:13Z
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@davidrevoy The artwork and the alt text describing it are both poignant and touching.I'm about to migrate from Firefox (which I've been using since it was Netscape 3.04) to Librewolf as well. It's nice to feel welcomed.
(DIR) Post #ArdPWHALqd7KFsR7JY by Gonzalo@paquita.masto.host
2025-03-02T05:43:04Z
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@davidrevoy I switched to LibreWolf two month ago and it works nicely.
(DIR) Post #ArdSasp25K7443Lxpo by notableperson@infosec.exchange
2025-03-02T06:17:29Z
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@davidrevoy i deleted firefox litllery just today from my distro, and replaced it with librewolfits working great!
(DIR) Post #ArdUeeOhrCAUOTxneK by cyborgnekosica@socel.net
2025-03-02T06:40:57Z
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@davidrevoy somehow, my #librewolf makes weird alignment in some sites... is there a way to make the text align left?It's not a big deal but it can be annoying sometimes
(DIR) Post #ArdhtvQO8DgywzMd6G by Domi@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T09:09:10Z
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@davidrevoyIl y aussi floorp, un "fork" également du renard. Pas d'avis définitif (en phase test) mais je n'ai pad eu le besoin de me plonger dans doc et de soulever me capot pour l'intant.@Khrys
(DIR) Post #Ardi0S6BYxAy1c1iL2 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-02T09:10:55.885667Z
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@SuperDicq @davidrevoy
(DIR) Post #Ardw0XFfnpGHMhOkr2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T11:47:24Z
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@batistecarpinetty @nicolagaffe J'Ă©spĂšre que ça lâinstallation sera facile sous Ubuntu. Ici aucune idĂ©e de comment ça se passe sous les systĂšme 'buntu-based. Pour moi sous Debian 12 KDE avec la doc c'Ă©tait vraiment trois lignes de commandes Ă copier/coller et c'Ă©tait fait.Pour comparaison: dĂ©loger le Firefox-ESR de Debian stable et le remplacer par la repo officielle de Firefox au moment de mon install avait Ă©tĂ© un processus plus complex.
(DIR) Post #ArdwH5ArRp2lCt2OnY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T11:50:25Z
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@confusomu @saphkey Yes, it took me time configuring it too. And I wiped more than three time the ~/.librewolf pref directory to start anew and be sure to reactive things I need only. It's very educative to all the many comfort I need that can compromise privacy/security of browsing website these days. Very, very educative.
(DIR) Post #ArdwaiAagewneTGrq4 by halibut@piaille.fr
2025-03-01T19:44:15Z
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@stemy @davidrevoy @mullvadnet @torproject Both Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser are more hardcore about privacy than Librewolf. They block Javascript by default with Noscript addon (you can enable it per-site or globally), use advanced techniques to limit fingerprinting and are designed to be used with their respective privacy networks (Mullvad VPN / Tor).This may break a lot of websites and increase latency. If privacy is more important to you than ease of use, they are the best in class. Otherwise, Librewolf is a good compromise.
(DIR) Post #ArdwajuiCfQz3nrDMm by argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-03-02T03:32:34Z
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@halibut NoScript, the old Firefox extension? I stopped using it because I started seeing third-party ads and cookies on the #NoScript website. Switched to #uMatrix.I wish uMatrix was still maintained. It is excellent.@stemy @davidrevoy @mullvadnet @torproject
(DIR) Post #Ardwal4JuQiKdtMOyu by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T11:54:00Z
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@argv_minus_one @halibut @stemy @mullvadnet @torproject Hey Stemy, yes I had a look at this other alternative (and adopted an appimage of the Tor browser on the process). Mullvad also looks nice!
(DIR) Post #Ardwcs3SuCrstAy4Ku by rony4102@programming.dev
2025-03-01T19:07:20.653697Z
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I am going to ladybird it bro
(DIR) Post #ArdwcsdyiS4iiQ3EFU by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T11:54:27Z
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@rony4102 Well, I visited their webpage and read their Wikipedia. But only checking they are still active on X was a red flag to me so far to get interested in.
(DIR) Post #ArdxTe6nUJhMz1gvnU by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:03:59Z
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@simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial I'm not sure how official the account you linked here is, the branding feels off and it's not really noted in the bio this is their official new account. Before December, Mozilla had their instance, and decided to remove it ( src. https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/mozilla-exits-the-fediverse-and-will-shutter-its-mastodon-server-in-december/ ) Proton also really manage their PR like rotten potatoes imo ( https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/ ) ... both company also abuse marketing bs wording and praise AI. Not surprising they are criticized here.
(DIR) Post #ArdxpUsoT8d6k2ZOca by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:07:53Z
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@matera Haha, I typed in a search engine for "furryfox" before realizing it was your way of naming Firefox. đ Catchy name. Yes, I'll keep my Firefox too in background. Right now mainly to compare when I have an issue with LibreWolf, and also to test my blog and peppercarrot website. đ
(DIR) Post #ArdyHn1Id7c96I1wMi by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:12:59Z
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@mray Thanks! Oh yes it's not easy to find the time and do a change and walk the path of frustration of changing habit and studying settings. Thanks for the video, I'm already subscribed to this animator artist, James Lee. He recently announced moving to GNU/Linux. It's not the best period to do this for artists, with Wayland, all container war etc...I don't remember I saw an update of them about how they succeed to make it. Certainly hard time ^ ^ I hope he found my blog post about it.
(DIR) Post #ArdzGzGNiy0UjkGYc4 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:24:00Z
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@praveen @darkbeth Thank you Elizabeth.LibreWolf is just a layer of community reviewing in case Mozilla pushes something bad to their audience. My metaphor about the layer of ash on top of a fox works for this reason. I also worry for the future of Firefox. I hope their executives will see larger community forming around forks, and it will make them find back their focus to privacy, and security. I'll be back to Firefox if they do that.
(DIR) Post #Are02zl7BUsUArX7gm by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:32:48Z
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@BluesHarp But Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software... This is even not an option on my operating system as it is really impossible to know what Vivaldi dev are doing with your data.
(DIR) Post #Are0yRDxk2pxrXPwXo by yalle@corneill.es
2025-03-01T21:25:37Z
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@ilumiumJ'trouve pas !
(DIR) Post #Are0yS92JqUUiY7WVM by zulo@mastodon.social
2025-03-02T00:29:23Z
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@yalle @ilumium Je n'ai pas testé LibreWolf, mais Waterfox a été l'alternative parfaite pour mon vieux laptop sous MX-Linux. Tout ce qui est synchro est natif, et en plus il tourne mieux que Firefox.
(DIR) Post #Are0yT7IhmhFjSJeRE by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:43:01Z
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@zulo @yalle @ilumium Yalle: https://librewolf.net/docs/settings/#enable-firefox-sync pour l'avoir en permanent (ou dans about:config , identity.fxaccounts.enabled to true )Zulo: La partie "vulnerabilities" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox#Vulnerabilities ) m'a refroidi lors de mes recherches, et j'ai trouver pas ouf leur business modÚle basé sur les revenues de la vente de data pour les recherches.
(DIR) Post #Are1DPkJWI7HcbgsoC by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:45:50Z
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@pre Right. I was badly surprised to see my Firefox homepage receiving an unsolicited "Temu" shortcut icon recently. Especially after that https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/113317960766927868 ... đ
(DIR) Post #Are1RoQKZ7jkDED28m by Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
2025-03-01T19:57:47.321091Z
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Is it worth running LibreWolf without fingerprinting disabled? Itâs kind of a dealbreaker that it doesnât save zoom options on websites. At least I could handle having to run another browser to use NetflixâŠ
(DIR) Post #Are1RpNB2KoB9jk1rc by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:48:27Z
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@Yingwu That's exactly where I found it educative to have to be personally facing this dilemma and having to choose. Here I decided to allow fingerprinting, because mainly I really like when a blog or website switch to dark mode automatically. Without that, all website were in light theme, and it felt very difficult to me to browse the web like that now...
(DIR) Post #Are1oCNqAETCtRidxg by Linux_Is_Best@misskey.de
2025-03-01T20:03:14.290Z
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org As someone who used to help contribute to Firefox, and who, outside the development, made a Linux installer for Firefox ("Firefox Automatic Installer for Linux"), I absolutely hate LibreWolf. -- Why? đ€LibreWorlf often breaks things (repeatedly). Then proceeds to blame Mozilla Firefox, even when Firefox was still good. They seldom took responsibility for their own issues and always passed the blame, despite those issues being exclusive to LibreWolf. This only further hurt Firefox, because you had all these people saying, "just use LibreWolf" while also saying, "Firefox is the problem." But LibreWolf 100% depends on Firefox. They're a soft-fork who has made it clear, they have no intention of ever going independent. That means, when Firefox goes, so does, LibreWolf.I switched to Vivaldi Browser. It is everything Firefox should have been. Yes, it is Chromium fork, but they do not follow along with everything Google does. Not only do they include their own ad-blocker, but they worked with uBlock to include v3 support going forward, that works nicely alongside their ad-blocker. I even use Privacy Badger alongside both.
(DIR) Post #Are1oCyhx9xcjmy5QW by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:52:22Z
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@Linux_Is_Best You know Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software, right?
(DIR) Post #Are1obq3WStVqC71ua by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-02T12:52:53.494950Z
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@davidrevoy @Yingwu Even though selecting the dark theme would give a whole 1 bit of fingerprinting, browsers that serve the users really allow optionally keeping dark themes even with fingerprinting resistance enabled.There is one extension that will set a dark theme regardless min you; https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dark-background-light-text/
(DIR) Post #Are1ulipgm5uEPfegi by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T12:53:44Z
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@Suiseiseki @Yingwu Thank you for the extension!
(DIR) Post #Are2FDqSpzcdFGzecq by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-02T12:57:41.953072Z
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@davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best I'm not sure why you would write all that instead of writing that Vivaldi is proprietary malware (it is).
(DIR) Post #Are5wLoXNv2OH7LhuS by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T13:37:50Z
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@fasnix Thank you! No idea for a Zen version, but it can be a good writing exercice if you want to spend time figuring out in a text pad. Feel free to share the result here if you have something fun!
(DIR) Post #Are64GLRbSVdd4VuEK by nickelson@fosstodon.org
2025-03-02T11:03:21Z
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@edgren @positivedinosaur @davidrevoy That's why I love #MXLinux - everything is just a click away đ€
(DIR) Post #Are64HjaRBPnwEohV2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T13:39:15Z
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@nickelson @edgren @positivedinosaur đ Wow, I wish every distro would offer such a configuration tool. Beautiful!
(DIR) Post #Are7NLrVPm6wCFAzcu by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T13:54:48Z
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@ferran4 @peterainbow Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software and I would find that using a proprietary freeware as a web browser really dangerous nowadays for privacy and security.So, not sure any distribution will think it is a good idea (except a community edition of Manjaro who tried it but , :yay: well, it's Manjaro, not the distro most concerned about FLOSS, imo )
(DIR) Post #Are8lYjVJQcF1FXZj6 by usul@piaille.fr
2025-03-02T14:10:22Z
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@davidrevoy good luck getting sec patches in time
(DIR) Post #Are987fI7HVVjJKStE by zulo@mastodon.social
2025-03-02T14:14:32Z
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@davidrevoy Arf, good catch.
(DIR) Post #Are9CuktXdSh8hEdMG by CosmicCleric@lemmy.world
2025-03-01T20:11:45.449313Z
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From the blog postâŠYou wonât be pampered with a one-click installation for all. Instead, youâll need to take the time to review the documentation and set up the security and privacy features that youâre willing to trade off for comfort and convenience.Yeah, ouch, thats not going to sell with the Plebs, and limit buy-in from them, and market share.They really should try to fix that, and not just hand wave it away as a problem.Market share is the lifeblood of the browser wars.~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~
(DIR) Post #Are9CveuBOGTwPRMf2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:15:22Z
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@CosmicCleric "[...] not going to sell with the Plebs" đ I don't think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs. As far as I know it's a community initiative, not a company. Yes, it require time to install and setup, and understand the implication of what security and privacy setting one decide to lower. But I'm happy I took this time, I feel I understand even more how the web of 2025 is broken and how web browser interacts with it to try to ease the experience.
(DIR) Post #Are9INc5fwqa5YitCS by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:16:24Z
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@Suiseiseki @SuperDicq đ Big potential for artwork this blue IceCat đ
(DIR) Post #Are9McjzNGR2ADRPWa by scaro@mamot.fr
2025-03-02T14:17:05Z
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@davidrevoy je te suis et pas que pour la qualité de ton travail ! je vais l'installer de suite sur mon portable Frame.Work Fedora. Et pour ton mobile, tu as choisi quoi ?
(DIR) Post #Are9QIF1X58hkChtui by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:17:49Z
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@veroandi Have a look at their profile here: https://librewolf.net/#what-is-librewolf
(DIR) Post #Are9kHUo0uxJDwcV1s by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:21:27Z
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@rejzor Yes, changing web browser can be difficult. My first hours with LibreWolf was a real maze. :blob_sweat: I'm really lucky I could speak about my issue on the Pepper&Carrot matrix room and received assistance from a more experienced user. I updated on their bug tracker the thread that I found with the information I needed, for future users in the same situation as me.
(DIR) Post #Are9zxTKEJJhkpP2fY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:24:17Z
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@ibrahim_cris For sure, yes, this is something I want to see in the long run: how quick LibreWolf get patched and released to security vulnerabilities. But so far, this was really educative: I now better understand many Firefox privacy options not activated by default and that I never knew of existence. If I go back to Firefox, I'll be a more advanced user knowing the settings and the about:config options.
(DIR) Post #AreARJitbnVOaFjQP2 by veroandi@mastodon.social
2025-03-02T14:29:12Z
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@davidrevoy I did but there are no names there. :( I may sometimes use open-source tools that I don't know who made them. But I don't feel comfortable using them for a browser. If it's a honeypot created by intelligence agencies or North Korean hackers, I have no idea. đŹ
(DIR) Post #AreATOjjwHpWiE7Q80 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:29:24Z
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@nekohayo Yes, I really like Gnome Web/Epiphany. I had also a look at the Plasma side, the Falkon browser. And the more I think about my web browsing usage, the more I wonder why I want to keep all my browsing inside a single web browser. Probably a habit I developed with the early web. I might start to install more browsers and split up my web browsing habit depending on activities and the level of privacy and security I need for certain website.
(DIR) Post #AreAawNbFoCJ55MLaq by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:30:56Z
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@elgregor That's a good solution! My initiation to LibreWolf made me aware of many settings I never thought existing in Firefox (because suddenly all were turned on by default). It was really educative, and I'll probably benefit a lot of it if I'm going back to Firefox.
(DIR) Post #AreB0Qqz5cViplG7km by louischance@piaille.fr
2025-03-01T23:11:16Z
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@technikhil @davidrevoy I just gave #Librewolf and #Zenbrowser a try. Both seem to work perfectly fine, and reimporting my date from #Firefox was easy (which seems logical since they're both based on Firefox).I'm not switching now though. I took a minute to check my Firefox settings and opt out from everything that seemed not to be data privacy friendly.I'm wondering if those forks are actually viable if Firefox dies one day... So for now I'd rather not cut the branch I've been sitting on for 2 decades, wait and see.I like the look of Zen browser though, looks like arc!
(DIR) Post #AreB0RzWrKwKMYGSi8 by technikhil@toot.cafe
2025-03-02T12:25:20Z
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@louischance @davidrevoy Yep, perfectly rational... I too have not (yet) given up on Firefox, I have just started compartmentalizing what I use it for. The Firefox sync allows me to still keep parity between the 2 browsers, though given the direction Mozilla is going I am probably going to delete that account quite soon.The similarity with Arc is what drew me to the Zen browser initially. I also like the amount of space it provides for the content in it's "compact mode" layout.
(DIR) Post #AreB0SW8u51lzhWVXs by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:35:29Z
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@technikhil @louischance Yes, Zen Browser was on my list when I tested, beautiful interface and screenshot on their website. > I'm wondering if those forks are actually viable if Firefox dies one day... Louis: yes, this THE central real question about all these forks. I personally don't think any forks around could survive that.
(DIR) Post #AreBAGw2ox0ey6JmKW by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-03-02T14:37:36.366Z
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I would expect a GNU IceCat to be some sort of combination of a cat and a gnu tho
(DIR) Post #AreBUOv8qBpLWhUgBk by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:40:53Z
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@pq1r oh oh, interesting for the symlink! Thank you for sharing. A dual workflow with keeping Firefox for my trusted websites and all search and random web browsing in Librewolf to not get tracked sounds like a possibility I haven't studied. I'll consider this, now.
(DIR) Post #AreBnSDOofA3FK7R6u by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:44:26Z
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@marnic Totalement! C'est mĂȘme pour ça que dans ma mĂ©taphore, je voulais vraiment montrer que le petit renard reste un renard , tant bien mĂȘme recouvert de cendre. Ca ressemble donc plutĂŽt a une "community curated edition" de Firefox, mais je crois que c'est ce que je cherche lĂ . Je commence Ă me mĂ©fier de Mozilla. Ils dĂ©rapent trop souvent ces derniers temps, et ça c'est que la partie publique...
(DIR) Post #AreBvhm8qZZxp3Ithw by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:45:55Z
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@Fat_Farang Nice, that the first web browser suggestion in all the comments I received that I didn't know of existence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floorp , very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
(DIR) Post #AreC4gzt6sXC0z1Exs by dick@annihilation.social
2025-03-02T14:47:51.946979Z
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@Fat_Farang @davidrevoy idk why not use ice cat nigga/ or a diferent browsaer wow. oh yea there is no more browsers for windows fags only linux fags have choice
(DIR) Post #AreC81tJsnHBgYXPxw by Heather@pixelfed.social
2025-03-01T23:58:59+00:00
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And if LibreWolf was too strict. I can recommend Zen Browser.
(DIR) Post #AreC82vq0usuueiwWu by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:47:58Z
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@Heather That's a good recommendation, it was high on my list (and I love how fresh the vertical tab design is on it đ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Browser )
(DIR) Post #AreCiPCQhVRaOpp1KC by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:54:40Z
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@bigTanuki :blobcatheart: Thank you, but don't worry, I'm making many errors too, and I'll keep doing them as experiment with many new things.I just hope I'll get comments helping me if I go accidentally on questionable territories and I'll have the brightness of mind to study them and readjust.
(DIR) Post #AreClYmfWRIUzhHDNo by marnic@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:55:27Z
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@davidrevoyFaut crĂ©er une nouvelle fondation type de LibreOffice đ
(DIR) Post #AreD3Ye4mBX1mDq6vg by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T14:58:31Z
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@prakasc For Waterfox, I read their webpage, and the Wikipedia page only. The chapter about vulnerabilities was enough for me to not get motivated to explore more. Also a business model based on search result. Meh. But cool name.
(DIR) Post #AreDGta6FSjwTNL732 by DBG3D@masto.es
2025-03-02T09:10:45Z
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@Gonzalo @davidrevoyExtensions working fine on it?
(DIR) Post #AreDGutHNdfyX9Jwa8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T15:00:51Z
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@DBG3D @Gonzalo I use only three or four extension here, one to skip sponsoring segment on Youtube, another one to auto-complete cookie, a css div box outliner, an extension also to get more info on pictures and be able to search by image. They all look like they work fine.
(DIR) Post #AreDzxeHyKEk7SmuTw by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T15:09:04Z
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@marnic Oui đ Mais faudrait commencer cette fondation avec un sacrĂ© budget pour avoir dĂ©jĂ une grosse poignĂ©e de dev Ă plein temps dessus. Je verrai bien la Wikipedia fondation dessus. Il me semble que leur trĂ©sorerie et leur moyen technique et leur familiaritĂ© avec le publique ferait que si ils entraient dans ce game, ça ferait un acteur de poids trĂšs rapidement.
(DIR) Post #AreEbz1rHyZvP6wVxA by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T15:15:55Z
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@scaro Merci. Sur mobile jusque lĂ c'Ă©tait Firefox sur un Android dĂ©googlisĂ©... enfin au mieu possible car c'est quasi impossible de faire un 100%. Mais lĂ je teste la semaine prochaine https://iode.tech/ , c'est du https://lineageos.org/ mĂ©langĂ© avec de la revente de matos reconditionnĂ©. Je donnerai des news sur le blog si ça fait bien le taf, surtout si au niveau photo/video ça arrive Ă suivre. âșïž
(DIR) Post #AreFItQI0We8TApaKm by fasnix@iceshrimp.de
2025-03-02T14:16:33.178Z
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@davidrevoy At least they state: "We don't want your data and we don't care how you use our browser." Mike Kuketz (Data Security Specialist) did an analysis of most browsers and Vivaldi opens nearly no connections to their servers (except e.g. to check for updates). Still, it's based on Chromium ... so I guess we can only trust them. @ferran4 @peterainbow
(DIR) Post #AreFIuQKHsGnZZr81w by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T15:23:37Z
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@fasnix @peterainbow @ferran4 I'm glad they state that, and yes, you have to "trust" them.In a post-truth era, what companies state worth unfortunately nothing to me, personally. Only legal documents like a license can protect us as a end user.
(DIR) Post #AreFdHRkOkrKljEb5s by scaro@mamot.fr
2025-03-02T15:27:22Z
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@davidrevoy alors je serai attentif à tes futures publications. Sur mon Fairphone avec Murena OS, je testerai le navigateur par défaut pour désinstaller dÚs que possible Firefox aussi. Iels verront vite la baisse de leur utilisation, sans doute lors des prochaines mises à jour...
(DIR) Post #AreFf7FHIScbi4HFU8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T15:27:24Z
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@veroandi It's a community fork. So, you have to meet their community. Scroll down the page to the "Core contributor" section. I see 8 profiles here. You can check their public activities on Codeberg, and follow links on their profile. You can also discuss with them on their Matrix chat room.
(DIR) Post #AreFhAyiOBQbrlVpRI by couscous@mamot.fr
2025-03-02T15:27:37Z
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@davidrevoy tiens ben justement, il s'était passé quoi pour openoffice à l'époque ? j'avais suivi que de loin mais il a bien fallu passer la main à libreoffice à ce moment là aussi ?@marnic
(DIR) Post #AreG5HPI8gOakpR9Hc by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T15:32:28Z
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@couscous @marnic Les premiers paragraphes "Histoire" de https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice te donneront une version bien plus dĂ©taillĂ© que ce que j'avais en tĂȘte pour te rĂ©pondre. đ C'Ă©tait un sacrĂ© truc !
(DIR) Post #AreJ5idTCetP45yBfs by matera@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-03-02T16:06:06Z
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@davidrevoy LOL Yeah, I get too cute sometimes.It's good to have a few different browsers for website testing. I have an assortment of different browser profiles too. I use dedicated profiles mostly to keep Gahoogle and Zuckland noses out of my business.
(DIR) Post #AreKetX4mSjAx0Jegi by rejzor@mastodon.social
2025-03-02T16:23:40Z
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@davidrevoy I've tried and used so many browser in my life, but at the moment I have a priority of not using anything Google and to not deal with issues and BS. Firefox fits that despite all the idiocies Mozilla is doing as I don't have the time and nerves anymore to deal with random issues forks have that Firefox doesn't. Like, literally the first news streaming site for news I use didn't work in Waterfox and does in Firefox. So, there's that.
(DIR) Post #AreKwSVzy9vkN1BfhQ by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-02T16:26:48Z
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@rejzor Totally understandable đ
(DIR) Post #AreMwnJ6rfAolRRjO4 by couscous@mamot.fr
2025-03-02T16:49:22Z
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@davidrevoy oh wow en effet đ
@marnic
(DIR) Post #ArePnWdrkvEaKmQWS8 by abusayed@mastodon.social
2025-03-02T17:21:13Z
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@davidrevoy @technikhil @louischance forks can survive if the maintainer team is 'for the people'. Look at "Jellyfin", a fork of " emby". Still surviving.
(DIR) Post #ArflBDMXNeLHgYQ0PY by Linux_Is_Best@misskey.de
2025-03-02T16:13:06.085Z
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Because Firefox and Brave are open source malware, spyware, adware, and calls home like a lost child wanting their mother. And while Vivaldi is not open source, it calls out to check for updates, Widevine updates, and bug reports for a total of 3-4x in the whole day, as opposed to the 4x per hour or more that Firefox and Brave call out, continuously. If you want safety and security and most importantly, privacy, you go with Vivaldi.
(DIR) Post #ArflBEHxw8HOYfHrvM by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-03T08:55:52.778009Z
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@Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy It's actually possible to configure firefox to make 0 spying requests and as a result, if you install GNU icecat or Tor Browser, you don't get spied on.Auto update checking can be disabled on firefox, but I'm not sure about Brave or Vivaldi.>If you want safety and security and most importantly, privacy, you go with Vivaldi.You will never get safety, security or privacy with proprietary malware.
(DIR) Post #ArfltSk7Ye3881Y4Ui by iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org
2025-03-03T09:03:55.943538Z
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@Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy @Suiseiseki While soft-forks are not making independent development, they're able to provide more reasonable defaults and additional configuration for questionable features, as it takes minimal effort.
(DIR) Post #ArfvFXq0C9Wlt7u6M4 by alextecplayz@techhub.social
2025-03-03T10:13:38Z
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@SRAZKVT @davidrevoy @rony4102 And of course, Lunduke made a post about it, Ladybird getting attacked by "unhinged, dishonest activists"https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5823666/ladybird-web-browser-developer-attacked-by-unhinged-dishonest-activistsNote that Lunduke's a horrible person, so this article of his is from a heavily biased anti-trans perspective, plus the article and his journal as a whole is from Rumble.
(DIR) Post #ArfvFYxq0VODNiZsCu by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2025-03-03T10:48:20Z
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@alextecplayz @SRAZKVT @rony4102 Good to know! Also, in case you missed this yesterday: https://bsky.app/profile/ioi-xd.net/post/3lje222ac5k2y (it makes me like LibreWolf even more đ love the ban reason đ )
(DIR) Post #ArfzvDwMxk8e9n0mki by Yoruka@eientei.org
2025-03-03T11:41:06.494859Z
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@Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy @Suiseiseki I have 0 reasons to trust Vivaldi. They might have reputation and they make proper requests that's all nullified when the program is not free. A browser that merely uses Chromium should not be proprietary.
(DIR) Post #Arg0JVaT0JSPpyLYhM by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-03T11:45:29.010418Z
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@Yoruka @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best It is impossible to trust proprietary malware and baiting with proprietary malware should cause a total loss of reputation (alas people don't know better).No browser should be proprietary, whether it uses chromium or not.No software should be proprietary.
(DIR) Post #Arg0XswaxbZgKcYJOK by Yoruka@eientei.org
2025-03-03T11:48:05.784331Z
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@Suiseiseki @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best I mean maybe you made a whole ass browser engine and you feel so proud about it you sell it for 20 bucks. Just know I and probably no person would ever use it. From what I hear the Vivaldi devs REJECT making the browser free which does make me wonder why. Probably because it contains undesirable code there is no other explanation.
(DIR) Post #Arg0w83IRMzW8eFO0O by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-03T11:52:28.034499Z
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@Yoruka @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best There is no problem with selling free software; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#sellingIf someone personally wrote a whole browser engine in GNU C, with full HTML5 support that doesn't support JavaScript, and released it under the AGPLv3-or-later, I'd be happy to pay $20 equivalent in XMR for a copy (although I might try it out from a copy shared from someone else first).Yes, the main reason why proprietary software developers refuse to make software even source-available is because doing so would reveal the malware.
(DIR) Post #Arg17JYnzexp13JppY by Yoruka@eientei.org
2025-03-03T11:54:29.845713Z
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@Suiseiseki @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best im against non free software but donations are fine. I donate to software I find valuable myself
(DIR) Post #Arg1Qb6SzewCvVG5ho by Yoruka@eientei.org
2025-03-03T11:57:59.132962Z
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@Suiseiseki @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best Oh you mean commercial software, I don't really know about that. If you can find a way to make money without purposefully fucking over your customers I'm fine with it
(DIR) Post #Arg1UXOIjoBUZTTmNc by Yoruka@eientei.org
2025-03-03T11:58:41.861019Z
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@Suiseiseki @Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy don't really have an established opinion on it
(DIR) Post #Arg2NyTRkHVOUjJv4i by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-03T12:08:42.290926Z
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@Yoruka @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best Free means freedom and has nothing to do with gratis (although you can easily construct; free of charge); https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedomsNonfree and proprietary are two words for the same things.You can make plenty of money with free software - whether that's custom software or support (few people even make money from binaries of free software, like Ardour, although such practice is now mostly obsolete, like icemen).Although, it is impossible to make a fortune and become a billionaire without multiple crimes against humanity, for example making software proprietary and for some reason people see becoming a billionaire as a good thing rather than a bad thing.
(DIR) Post #Arg4psGIdR03FFbP84 by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2025-03-03T12:24:13.112686Z
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@Suiseiseki @Yingwu @davidrevoy Not selecting it also gives a bit of fingerprinting, ultimately.Preferably the way to fix this would be for the user agent to not provide the remote endpoint with a way to extract this data at all.
(DIR) Post #Arg4pt8XNmNvxSyifY by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-03T12:36:08.268446Z
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@lispi314 @davidrevoy @Yingwu Unfortunately, certain CSS features allow remove endpoints to work out the state of CSS modals, so the CSS standard would need to be changed to allow that.
(DIR) Post #Arg4qHrNSiVsdU8rtQ by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-03T12:36:15.429922Z
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@lispi314 @davidrevoy @Yingwu Unfortunately, certain CSS features allow remove endpoints to work out the state of CSS modals, so the CSS standard would need to be changed to not allow that.
(DIR) Post #Arg69KZNiAswUpMwzI by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2025-03-03T12:43:02.240990Z
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@Suiseiseki @Yingwu @davidrevoy Well, that or a browser could decide to either grab all modal-gated remote resources or alternatively none of them per the user's command.
(DIR) Post #Arg69LaTvZMLeWtLLE by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-03T12:50:50.395112Z
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@lispi314 @davidrevoy @Yingwu A browser could be configured to grab all modal gated remote resources and well that isn't a problem for 1 bit options (as there are 2 options), but mozilla doesn't do browsers that serve the user in that way anymore.
(DIR) Post #ArgSnpclrtPlNxfjMm by Linux_Is_Best@misskey.de
2025-03-03T17:02:07.198Z
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@Yoruka@eientei.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com I care about good software.Some good software is free, others paid, some are open source, and others are closed source. None of that determines if it is good or not.
(DIR) Post #ArgSnqV0cEne6B32uG by Yoruka@eientei.org
2025-03-03T17:04:40.969842Z
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@Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy @Suiseiseki Good software is software that doesn't abuse you. I cannot trust software that have something to hide in its source code
(DIR) Post #Argejaap0n2H3eVIUC by Tionisla@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2025-03-03T19:18:00Z
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@davidrevoy Librewolf sur FreeBSD iciđ #RunBSD
(DIR) Post #Argf8XNA7cJGJH0jTM by privacy_guru@mastodon.social
2025-03-03T19:22:34Z
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@davidrevoy I've been using LibreWolf for several years. I usually use different browsers for different tasks and for general privacy and security if I'm not using Tor it's my browser of choice.
(DIR) Post #Argnicab0FXeY00lvs by scaro@mamot.fr
2025-03-03T20:58:43Z
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@davidrevoy ah mais c'est un OS complet... je cherchais juste un navigateur pour mon Fairphone qui tourne sous Murena OS... mais je suis curieux de lire ton retour d'expĂ©rience qd mĂȘme. En commençant par le navigateur inclus ;-)
(DIR) Post #ArhFuiYDSeKHEESFPs by cameronbosch@fosstodon.org
2025-03-04T02:14:38Z
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@davidrevoy @BluesHarp Unfortunately, what fork of Chromium do you recommend then? Brave is a shady crypto project run by a less than nice person, Chrome & Edge I hope I don't have to explain, and Opera? I really hope I don't have to go any further.Also, when Mozilla eventually goes, so does Librewolf, Waterfox, and the rest. There's no way that the Firefox forks will be able to pick up the pieces in time.Unfortunately, I am stuck on Vivaldi because it has PWAs and isn't going to die.
(DIR) Post #ArhGNff1HnKGf8RWjI by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-03-04T02:20:14.202073Z
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@Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy @Yoruka You won't see this as you're a coward, but good software by definition needs to at least respect the user.Imagine defending proprietary software by referring to it as "closed source".
(DIR) Post #ArhUNpZnolcUm3yOWG by shironeko@fedi.tesaguri.club
2025-03-04T04:57:07.398499Z
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@cameronbosch @davidrevoy @BluesHarp I think people over estimate the importance of Mozilla and it's partly why we are here. the free world can maintain an browser or two on it's own no problem, using firefox/chromium as base is simply the path of least resistance.
(DIR) Post #Arha7dQJplhSArCJQu by Yoruka@eientei.org
2025-03-04T06:01:26.648662Z
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@Suiseiseki @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best deeeeeesu
(DIR) Post #ArhszrlYWV0LT98kYS by natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world
2025-03-04T09:32:33Z
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@davidrevoy Note that if you are concerning about security, you may want to enable Google Safe Browsing as well (I know this is from Google, but implementation from Mozilla is making sense and even Librewolf devs are considering enabling it if it wasn't for user self-compiling issues). I'm a CS student myself but I don't think I'm that savvy for checking every site I go though.
(DIR) Post #ArhtnCbjp5kuIX4bRo by natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world
2025-03-04T09:41:32Z
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@davidrevoy @simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial I mean something as simple like text-to-speech or OCR or machine translation models (like Google Translate/DeepL) can be considered "AI" technically. I'm a student and many courses involving creating our own models from scratch and many of my projects involving use models like tesseract-ocr, turtle-tts, YOLO, LLaMA,... for some tasks and this is painful for me as many outputs don't even make sense and I had to tweak a lot.
(DIR) Post #ArhvlFNWkZZEDjcbMO by natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world
2025-03-04T10:03:35Z
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@davidrevoy Oh, I am considering moving to LibreWolf currently too
(DIR) Post #Arhw8V0KorpJLNrRPU by natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world
2025-03-04T10:07:45Z
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@davidrevoy @praveen @darkbeth I mean this is one of the benefits of open source and free/libre software, is that it help users to have alternative in case the original went bad and have a voice to push back harmful changes.
(DIR) Post #Arhx7nxww3PFogyhu4 by natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world
2025-03-04T10:18:36Z
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@davidrevoy @Yingwu I mean LibreWolf recommends using CanvasBlocker in case of you turned off Resist Fingerprinting
(DIR) Post #Arhxc6GJTVyDFU0tG4 by natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world
2025-03-04T10:24:13Z
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@davidrevoy @CosmicCleric I mean I don't hate for-profit companies that much unless they have done questionable/nefarious things repeatedly; but I really don't like for-profit companies hiding behind non-profits/benefit corporations/co-ops especially to do questionable things.