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(DIR) Post #Ai92ismBPSuetdT5kW by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-03-17T10:56:02.696354Z
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This cringey jewish guy wants us to think he’s some *real* White man for talking crap about Lord Jesus. I guess it’s more sad than anything. Probably devastated by the implosion of the “Christianity is White Genocide” group, and looking for a new pile of dung to scurry under.RT: https://annihilation.social/objects/5c88d044-d8f7-4781-8038-d807f0f6c76e
(DIR) Post #Ai92lyCLhuKea6BBYG by meso@netzsphaere.xyz
2024-05-22T09:18:42.189774Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @toxoplasmosis this isn't working out fed go back to grooming lonely teenagers into shooting up walmarts
(DIR) Post #ArUoEGnHxJHEuYkDL6 by RangoDingbot@poa.st
2024-04-01T05:53:52.748227Z
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@samjayganges @KingOfWhiteAmerica @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran i mean show me carvings or texts/tablets from Sumeria, Scandinavi, Britain, the Steppes, continental Europe etc depicting or spelling out Yahweh/YHWH
(DIR) Post #ArUoEIabHSJeTmp6q8 by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-01T05:55:54.545692Z
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@RangoDingbot @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran This demonstrates a lack of understanding of our position, no offense. Logically, there’s only one “God” worthy of the name. But YHWH is a specific, Covenant name - unique to ancient Israel.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEJin4USfzTfAFE by Witch_Hunter_Siegfired@poa.st
2024-04-01T05:57:29.227721Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @RangoDingbot @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran So that's not his name?
(DIR) Post #ArUoEKkbFFVFBNW7hg by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:02:44.566182Z
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @RangoDingbot @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran It’s what He told His People to refer to Him as, at that time, in relation to that Covenant. The Almighty God is ineffable - beyond any name by which Man is capable of referring to Him as.
(DIR) Post #ArUoELnTM3OYQZrvou by RangoDingbot@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:05:06.383559Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran who were his people? the Goths?
(DIR) Post #ArUoEMP36LS8J7RwOG by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:08:32.428363Z
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@RangoDingbot @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran Are you asking me whom the Orthodox believe God’s Chosen People were and are ?
(DIR) Post #ArUoEND26VR2o8prIe by RangoDingbot@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:11:17.755154Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran no, im asking in Christianity, in the Bible, which people group did Yahweh call “his chosen people?” was it the Gauls? the Goths? the Germans?
(DIR) Post #ArUoENnttQvSeU5IlU by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:16:57.876469Z
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@RangoDingbot @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran God’s Chosen People have gone by many different names, extending back to the beginning of Creation. The Covenant name “YHWH” was given to the Levite, Moses, at the Burning Bush.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEONhkJZ8RWptZY by RangoDingbot@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:24:09.091936Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Dagnar @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran burning bush? where is that seems cool. maybe its on a list of tourist attractions with Mimirs well. was Moses a son of Freya like the Germanic tribes? i cant remember, did Moses take his people to Frisland?
(DIR) Post #ArUoEOwndpdeCNFvH6 by Dagnar@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:27:12.932348Z
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@RangoDingbot @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran To toss a match into this conversation, I found it very interesting what was presented in the movie Zeitgeist, where the story of Jesus is actually just a retelling of the Precession of the Equinoxes and he is the embodiment of the Age of Pisces.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEPgssUVAVIoj6e by RangoDingbot@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:28:59.486837Z
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@Dagnar @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran yeah that was a damning video/documentary
(DIR) Post #ArUoEQ8BF0KtrxaWeW by Dagnar@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:30:30.910582Z
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@RangoDingbot @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran Moses being the embodiment of the Age of Ares, which is why the jews still blow the ram's horn. I wonder who embodied the Age of Taurus ..
(DIR) Post #ArUoEQWdm3tz5p23mK by RangoDingbot@poa.st
2024-04-01T06:32:36.910914Z
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@Dagnar @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @samjayganges @wingedhussar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Halcyon01 @givenup @toxoplasmosis @SuperSnekFriend @Godcast @SuperLutheran im not as big on astrological mythology. what is Taurus’ symbolism? I should probably just look it up but its late and ive had some beer lol
(DIR) Post #ArUoEQzM3Is2WsSzXE by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-01T07:08:26.672020Z
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You could say Abraham was the end of Taurus, his grandfather was a bull like character. Nahor means snorter, like a bull or a horse snorting. But I don't think Biblical astrology is always that direct, it's the framework of the stories that is astrological.Here's how I look at it: The OT books were based on older material, records kept by priests. the primary job of priests was to keep the calendar, essential for an agricultural society. From Mesopotamia, there's lots of tablets that are just record keeping of star location and celestial events. Within those records they also wrote down political events, and the results of haruspices, which were liver readings. They'd examine the liver of a sacrificed animal, to give omens about impending battles etc. Such records are the most likely source material for 1st & 2nd Kings, and 1st & 2nd Chronicles, 1st & 2nd Samuel, and even Judges. So, those books are all laced with astrology, because of their origin material.Then, there's just the basic astrology of ancient story telling, it's a well studied aspect of The Epic of Gilgamesh. The events of the story can be traced through the stars, in the sequence of the Zodiac, through the year. That's not controversial, it's accepted by academia. The same is probably true for The Iliad, but I haven't made a study of it. It makes a lot of sense for oral traditions to use the stars, because it helps with memorization. I've identified the same astrological sequence in the story of Moses and Judges is a really obvious star story. And, the story of Jesus follows the same format.I avoid talking about such things too much around here because it's likely to piss off some Christians. But it is very interesting and I don't think it takes anything away from Christianity.BTW: Abram is the contraction of abba and ram, which means father thunder. He's Zeus, aka Baal. The Christian interpretation of being the spiritual children of Abram, rather than jews being his genetic offspring, makes perfect sense when you understand Abram was Zeus.
(DIR) Post #ArUoERUYBJpA5d3u9w by RangoDingbot@poa.st
2024-04-01T07:20:17.707437Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar but why would Zeus, as their ancestors knew him - or Jupiter, worshippers, aka Greeks and Romans, who fought rigorously to defend their borders and expand them, allow a foreign people to simple rename their deity or allow their stories be adhered to under a foreign name and lens? im somewhat on the view that Christianity was a method to pacify Europeans, specifically Romans, to conquer Europe and lead us to our current situation. jews do have long plans which exceed their lifetimes, but come to fruition nonetheless
(DIR) Post #ArUoESJx6CwOf36xHM by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-01T07:41:13.432452Z
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You're looking at it backwards.You need to go back to the Bronze Age, when Aryans spread out in all directions, and took their religion with them. All of the religions have a common origin, so there were Zeus type gods from India to Portugal, and from Finland to Egypt. jews didn't exist in the Bronze Age. The earliest historical reference outside of the Bible to Yehud is as the provincial name given to the region of Jerusalem by the Persians. In the Bible, Judah is the bad son, who sells his little brother into slavery. Judas is the betrayer of Jesus. The glorification of jews is from jews, not Christianity. And all the records of the Early Church show great animosity towards jews. The jew love by Christians is new, mostly beginning with Scofield in America, a bit with the Plymouth Brethren in England. But their main power in Europe was not religious, it was monetary. It was our kings that sold us out, not the church.
(DIR) Post #ArUoESzQc07MjgW4vY by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-01T07:42:44.315586Z
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I made this several years ago.
(DIR) Post #ArUoETurAU3TbnNwRM by ThatMushroom@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-01T09:59:39.568344Z
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I'm retarded, I don't kniw what this means
(DIR) Post #ArUoEUkc43SICJbH72 by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-01T10:04:06.735427Z
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@ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar The argument (which is fairly reasonable, imo) is that Abraham = Zeus. The glorification of ancestors and their elevation to “Divine” status is not at all unheard of. Japan’s Emperor was a great example of this playing out within living memory.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEVYb4DRChKzC1Q by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-01T10:42:42.323797Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar The idea is retarded. There's literally zero connection between Zeus and Abraham.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEWAAoVUmZsZCam by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T01:46:01.105831Z
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@Godcast @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar I think calling it retarded is overstating your case. Reasonable skepticism is thoroughly appropriate. I know full well it’s entirely likely the mythical/ancestral memory of the Great Sky Father, which ended up in the hands of the Greeks, *did* get conflated with some human ancestor. Abraham isn’t an unreasonable candidate.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEWowMw6acJdl8S by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T01:54:09.813592Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Abraham is an entirely unreasonable candidate. We have his life's story in the Bible and no credible competing tradition that would account for Abraham being deified.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEXYfcugWu92HPk by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T02:07:50.840355Z
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@Godcast @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar > We have his life’s story in the BibleAgreed; did Homer, Pythagoras, Socrates etc ? > no credible competing traditionAccording to whom ? It’s honestly the first I’ve ever hear the suggestion and the etymological link. I‘m not pretending to have access to the authoritative and exhaustive list of all “credible traditions”, so if you’ve got some details I do not, please don’t hesitate to share.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEYHKwqPj8fvx2G by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T11:17:35.222933Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar There's no indication whatsoever that any Greek talked about Abraham. What you're engaging in is absurdist parallelomania. If you're going to posit that Abraham=Zeus or some such nonsense, then the burden of proof is on YOU to demonstrate the truth of the claim, not on me to disprove your half-baked idea.Shit like this is how people believe in flat earth, Atlantis, or pyramid space ships. "Well there's no proof against it, herp derp." C'mon, dude.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEYsuh8TJ1DVxbc by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T11:27:16.478259Z
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@Godcast @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar … I‘m just going to check if you remember whose argument this actually is.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEZUURQWstl5yAy by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T11:52:44.744196Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar You've insisted to me it's plausible, and I'm explaining that no, it's not.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEa0kVUKkVoBjSS by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T11:59:55.748512Z
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@Godcast @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Sure; I just think it’s a case where it’s an answer to a question you never had. Do *I* believe it ? No, I’m not personally seeing *too* much to convince me. But I get where it’s coming from.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEad2D8xUQY6J8K by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T12:08:33.945379Z
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @ThatMushroom @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar And you can see where holocaust enjoyers are coming from, too. Let's apply some critical thinking.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEbAiBvtg6zrCcq by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T12:18:08.139055Z
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Weak, everyone here knows my stance on the Holohoax.You're insisting on a Fundamentalist interpretation, that serves Zionists. jews need Abraham to be a human, so they can claim genetic inheritance. But as spiritual heirs, it makes no difference to Christians if Abraham was a man, or a god with a Euhemerist story.And, there's zero archaeological evidence for Israelite monotheism. There's tons of evidence they followed traditions very similar to their neighbors. And the OT testifies to those practices. The OT was not a contemporary composition, it's a retrospective, reflecting the beliefs of the authors who lived a long time after the described events.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEbv9PH2mR1aI0e by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T12:26:22.308377Z
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@Huntress @Godcast @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Well, I mean, as a Christian, I’d not accept Abraham as literally ”a god” of course. But I completely understand Euhemerism as a thing ancient men (and even modern men as per the example of the Emperor of Japan) did. And I’d definitely not say there’s *zero* evidence of Israelite Monotheism - as the Scripture is evidence it was certainly a relevant factor in their society ! But it’s also not consistent to believe Monotheism was *always* the majority position and/or ruling paradigm. Most of the kings were described as wicked idolaters throughout, and the mass of the people wasn’t too far off from them. There was always *at least* a Faithful Remnant.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEcaGwNwAUYp86a by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T12:31:31.748342Z
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Why did Abraham find it believable that God wanted him to sacrifice his son, if he didn't have the same beliefs as his baby killing neighbors?
(DIR) Post #ArUoEdHWLaX2eh3fW4 by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T12:33:14.885706Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Abraham knew God would raise Isaac from the dead. See: Hebrews 11:19.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEeHCeFs7jzuvey by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T12:39:10.916364Z
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That's what the baby killing neighbors believed. They sacrificed babies to become deified, to become messengers to the spiritual realm. It was done at times of distress, to ask the gods for help. It was also done to establish cult sites, and sometimes for the founding of cities. The sacrifice victim became the god of that site.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEfHwsy3wsbH2Se by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T12:44:18.200583Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Yeah I don’t agree that’s accurate; because something about this particular aspect of the Faith of Abraham was so remarkable as to warrant special mention in the New Testament. If it was the commonplace opinion, why pin it on Abraham as such ? Naw, I think the forward-looking Faith in the Resurrection was something special about Abraham, in that historical context.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEfhpKklMArNhnU by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T12:50:41.335630Z
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But you're not understanding the historical context of the Levant, with their unique tradition of child sacrifice.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEgDjQ8HdloJBWi by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2024-04-02T12:58:55.962964Z
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@Huntress @KingOfWhiteAmerica @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar The earliest evidence for child sacrifice in the Levant is established around the 15th-14th century BC, six hundred years after Abraham. The Neo-Assyrians popularized it in the 9th century. In the context of Moses's warnings against it in ca. 1406 BC, it was likely an innovation on the part of Canaanites stretching back to Hyksos expulsions. In other words, it is exceedingly unlikely that a cultural practice of child sacrifice was on Abraham's radar - especially not in a theological sense.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEh10SvhOEdMXKa by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2024-04-02T14:41:29.473890Z
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@SuperLutheran @Huntress @KingOfWhiteAmerica @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Wasn't the time of Abraham's life possibly later than that? I read something about a possible 600-900 year span with 'scholars' placing him on either end. I can't find it at the moment, unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEhjJoB90S45vOq by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2024-04-02T14:47:03.898404Z
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@BowsacNoodle @Huntress @KingOfWhiteAmerica @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar His departure from Mesopotamia/Ur coincides with the invasion of the guti peoples from the western Caucasus mountains, placing him firmly circa 2100 BC (there is a bit of wiggle room tho). This lines up with the Scriptural timeline as well.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEiC25Q73t7Wr9k by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T14:50:21.086533Z
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Abraham was not from Mesopotamian Ur, that's from Woolley. Ur of the Chaldees is Sanliurfa.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEij06qU5XMxBXk by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2024-04-02T14:53:47.798636Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @BowsacNoodle @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar From Eusebius to modern archeological record to the meaning of the word "Chaldee," that it's Sumerian/Mesopotamian is undisputed. Who says it's Sanliurfa? Where are you getting that?
(DIR) Post #ArUoEjOTcdf3c0MJBw by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T15:48:22.637813Z
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No it is not undisputed, this article covers the whole topic of Ur and Chaldeans. You can download the PDF by signing in with a Google or FB account.https://www.academia.edu/44899545/_In_the_Land_of_the_Chaldeans_The_Search_for_Abraham_s_Homeland_RevisitedI can't find the original articles I read about it, more than a decade ago, the internet is very good a burying older stuff. But this newer article is sufficient. I'm surprised you never investigated it.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEjqpvCLX1xcxOa by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T15:55:28.222056Z
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This jew thinks Sanliurfa is a more sensible location: https://www.thetorah.com/article/ur-kasdim-where-is-abrahams-birthplace
(DIR) Post #ArUoEkO9vJ08hJDZKq by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T16:00:02.001716Z
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Gordon was consistent in arguing against Wooley. https://www.gilberthouse.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Where-Is-Abrahams-Ur.pdf
(DIR) Post #ArUoEkrEBEFm9Some0 by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T16:09:49.416017Z
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This is interesting, I hadn't heard about Urkesh as a possible location. It's a little to the east of Sanliurfa: https://armstronginstitute.org/349-has-abrahams-father-terah-been-discovered
(DIR) Post #ArUoElJaTmwFZQ5Qqe by LudditeMan@poa.st
2025-02-26T02:06:55.628761Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @BowsacNoodle @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar This will just give isreal an excuse to genocide everyone in between the West Bank and the Persian Gulf.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEmDF8rSSM27sbA by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T12:41:58.023814Z
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Isaac's name meant laughter. The sacrificed babies had a grimace when they were burned, as the flesh burned from their face.
(DIR) Post #ArUoEwsNUmItQVRs6S by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T12:47:16.361480Z
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Just as we understand Jesus' sacrifice means we no longer sacrifice animals, you can understand Abraham's story as a reform from baby killing. We also understand Jesus as divine, so it's no big deal to understand Abraham as originated as the god of a reformed cult.
(DIR) Post #ArUpyqOw07pgcV7p0y by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-01T18:57:39.629914Z
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The Church foolishly tried to convert jews, it was a big mistake to invite them into Christianity and allow them to enter the priesthood. However, all of Christianity, for about 1900 years was consistent in understanding Christians were the spiritual heirs of Abraham, jews were not the "chosen people." So, there was none of the jew love you see today with "Christian" Zionism.And, you're right about the kings. jews were allowed in Europe by kings as tax farmers. Our problem with jews has always been primarily political, not religious. Christianity actually provided more protection from them than Paganism, because it gave a history of jews being a cursed people, that's consistent in the Bible:1: Judah - the bad son who sells his little brother into Slavery. (He does other bad things too.)2: The Kingdom of Judah - destroyed by the Babylonians as willed by God for their unfaithfulness.3: jews cursed in Malachi again for unfaithfulness.4: Judas - betraying Jesus5: jews killing Christ6: The destruction of Jerusalem7: jews described as the Synagogue of SatanI can't think of one Early Church father who had anything good to say about jews, but there's a ton of condemnations. And, I know of no Pagan book comparable to the Bible in it's diatribes about jews. There were individual Pagans who were critical of jews, because jews excite animosity everywhere they go. But if you want an antisemitic religion, it's Christianity.
(DIR) Post #ArUpyr8JHQ82tEM3k0 by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-01T19:52:25.071917Z
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@Huntress @samjayganges @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @h2otown @wingedhussar The Orthodox Church has a mostly stellar track record of jew awareness; but there is one very notable case wherein a powerful Orthodox empire “forgot”. The Romanov Dynasty - to their great detriment - long flirted with the idea integrating jews into a compartment of Russian society; the disastrous results of which are described in great detail in 200 Years Together by Solzhenitsyn. Take note, this wasn’t a Church decision; but rather, the Russian Imperial State. The entire world is *still* suffering the consequences of this terrible mistake.
(DIR) Post #ArUq3dpo9Onj5qyydU by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-01T18:16:47.592102Z
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I remember you! I enjoyed your show, I listened on TRS, a few years ago, very good. You helped me return to Christ. I admire your take on Samuel, going to the "high places."It's over-simplified to say Abram is Zeus, more correct to say they have a common origin. Abba-Ram is Father Thunder.
(DIR) Post #ArUq3fAlAz9fF7nDvs by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T01:50:34.191431Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Glad to hear it, heaven rejoices.No, Abraham was just a man. A righteous one, but a man nevertheless. We have his entire life story recorded in the Bible, and no good reason to suppose any of that is false.
(DIR) Post #ArUq3g2dweFxwF0Fv6 by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2024-04-02T01:54:06.558915Z
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@Godcast @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar I'm not a "true believer," but still think that Jesus of Nazareth was a pretty cool dude.Personally I believe he was a Philistine & not an Israelite.
(DIR) Post #ArUq3gbjqAKTh5QHce by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T01:54:31.903611Z
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@MelGibsonafter4Beers @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar You should become a believer
(DIR) Post #ArUq3hBXh2y9U8AsQi by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2024-04-02T01:57:34.082471Z
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@Godcast @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar True faith is a gift that I may unfortunately never receive. But I do find comfort in old order Orthodox wisdom whenever my life gets difficult.
(DIR) Post #ArUq3hzsftEe0Fj4tM by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T11:21:18.401593Z
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@MelGibsonafter4Beers @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Faith is an activity, it grows with practice
(DIR) Post #ArUq53Nqe4iwccZtGy by Whitewall_Blasphemy@poa.st
2024-04-02T02:01:25.870479Z
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@MelGibsonafter4Beers @Godcast @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar These activities are not out of the realm of a carpenter or someone that practiced the vocations of what biblically can be considered as miracles. [who knows the technical prowess random people carried from isolated lands migrated out of central African mega cities of ancient times]
(DIR) Post #ArUq54HVJ9F9PEcL1U by Whitewall_Blasphemy@poa.st
2024-04-02T02:02:27.388077Z
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@MelGibsonafter4Beers @Godcast @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Also, people are gigantic pussies nowadays.
(DIR) Post #ArUqr7u98jDuXkblLM by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T12:54:32.603708Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar I don’t doubt Abraham was a man of “reformed” Faith, in the sense that he no longer believed identically to how he did as a younger man. He exhibited repentance, in other words. And I don’t doubt other tribes of ancient people, knowing of Abraham, may have glorified him, even going so far as to say he was “a god”. But obviously I don’t believe that they were *correct*. He wasn’t *really* a “god”. There were Greeks in the Book of Acts who wrongly concluded Sts. Paul and Barnabas were “gods” until they set the record straight. Abraham wasn’t around to set the record straight, though, amongst later men that glorified him. The *correct* understanding of a glorified man, is as a Saint. Their lives have become so Sanctified, they clearly reflect Divine Grace - so God is glorified in them. I argue *this* was more the case with Abraham.
(DIR) Post #ArUqsPRXPvsFEBq2rI by CatLord@poa.st
2024-04-02T12:50:45.154650Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar wtf that is horrific
(DIR) Post #ArUqsQnYNZ4vQl98oS by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T12:55:05.587252Z
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Yes, it was horrific, and I thank God for doing something to put an end to it. He did it first with the story of Abraham, replacing child sacrifice with an animal sacrifice. Then he did something even greater, sacrificing his own son, ending blood sacrifice all together.
(DIR) Post #ArUqwfu2A9X3R1CWvY by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T12:52:07.591154Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar This is Jordan Maxwell-tier cognate conspiracy nonsense.
(DIR) Post #ArUqwhTsINnOKSyfQm by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:01:56.272355Z
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I don't know about Jordan Maxwell, it's the result of my own study.Calling me a conspiracy theorist just reflects your lack of knowledge of the topic. I don't expect you to believe me on first hearing of it, it is different from what you've been taught. But, you grew up in an America that was dominated by Christian Fundamentalist Zionists, so there's probably a lot of things you've got wrong. There hasn't been good leadership in understanding the Bible in light of all the archaeology that's gone on over the last 100+ years, which recently has been under the control of Zionists in the most pertinent territories.
(DIR) Post #ArUqwiCBddF0Xti3V2 by doctorsex@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:13:44.548585Z
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Ok, so do we have some kind of record that this was how these things were understood before "christian zionists" got a stranglehold on things? Because if not this just sounds like a cobbled-together "just so" story
(DIR) Post #ArUqwikZZmkMGXnW64 by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
2024-04-02T13:16:39.998411Z
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@doctorsex @Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar While I can’t speak for 100% of Traditional Christians; I can however attest I’ve never heard Orthodox Saint Anybody say that Abraham believed as his neighbors did, and went to sacrifice his son as they’d been doing. So I have serious doubts.
(DIR) Post #ArUqwk2KnEY4Fv7DQ8 by doctorsex@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:23:41.329954Z
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Right, even as a firm "sola scriptura" guy I find it incredulous that all, or even most, of Christendom was just wrong on something like that for ~2 millenia in spite of promises from God to preserve his words and teachings. (This is a similar issue I take with CI)
(DIR) Post #ArUr0PheKpTaLnBupk by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:25:00.807071Z
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You're looking at it flatly, not taking into consideration when the book was written, at a time when baby sacrifice was happening. The story about Abraham is not contemporary with Abraham. The point of the story was to tell them to stop sacrificing babies.I believe the story took that form during the Persian Period because it's at that time baby sacrifice stops being as common. Eshmun worship during the Persian Period was practiced by making little baby figurines and throwing them in the river, rather than sacrificing babies. It became a symbolic offering.
(DIR) Post #ArUr0QfClP7BKV3Tf6 by doctorsex@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:26:34.461933Z
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Do you believe that the scripture is the divinely inspired word of God
(DIR) Post #ArUr0RS7pWFLmDwXui by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:30:27.603942Z
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I believe it's the book God wants us to have, to tell us about Jesus, And, to tell us the history that explained the necessity of Jesus' sacrifice, so we don't do crazy stuff like burning babies or cows.
(DIR) Post #ArUr0RyNta3DOH2JCC by doctorsex@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:30:50.483518Z
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It's a yes or no question
(DIR) Post #ArUr0ScnTKNRPbwaBc by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:33:27.381435Z
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No, it isn't.
(DIR) Post #ArUrGBOJJX7Kb1fHTE by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:04:34.419493Z
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The story we have about Abraham is no older than the Persian Period. It's more likely Genesis took it's current form in the Hellenistic era.
(DIR) Post #ArUrGCbomnW4NCzaAC by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2024-04-02T13:06:42.629964Z
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@Huntress @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @Godcast @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar The discovery of the Ebal curse tablets dating to the 13th century and the Mesha stele, Assyrian ostraca, etc. all verify the OT record, giving me no reason to doubt the historicity of the persons Moses wrote about.
(DIR) Post #ArUrGDbV5Sr9SVqqJ6 by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:15:12.186620Z
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I don't doubt the general historicity of much of the OT because it's a priestly work, and priests were calendar keepers. The reference material the priests used to compose the OT books were largely priestly astrological records, interspersed with notes about the coronations of kings etc. But to deny it was composed as a narrative to teach a particular view on faith, based on their beliefs at the time they wrote it, denies the reality of how books are written. The Bible is not a collection of dates and events, it's a teaching document, giving you a story, telling you not to sacrifice babies.
(DIR) Post #ArUrGEejAx22ioMvya by Godcast@poa.st
2024-04-02T13:18:08.407835Z
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@Huntress @SuperLutheran @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar That's a lot of words to say "The Bible is correct."
(DIR) Post #ArUrGFLGcn3kqkGuHY by Huntress@nicecrew.digital
2024-04-02T13:26:32.610359Z
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Yes, the Bible is correct in telling us the name of Abram - abba ram - father thunder.
(DIR) Post #ArUrGG3DzMDn34q0nY by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2024-04-02T13:35:13.881446Z
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@Huntress @Godcast @toxoplasmosis @Halcyon01 @ThatMushroom @Dagnar @KekistaniWanderer @KingOfWhiteAmerica @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RangoDingbot @SuperSnekFriend @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @givenup @samjayganges @wingedhussar Literally no linguistic ANE scholar would concur with that reading of the name:armstronginstitute.org/806-what-does-the-name-abraham-really-mean#:~:text=And%20Abraham's%20original%20name%2C%20Abram,something%20like%20%E2%80%9CBeloved%20Father.%E2%80%9D