Post ArQkLCPvI2b4pXDUyu by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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 (DIR) Post #ArQYs20XoVbMeWEdv6 by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
       2025-02-24T00:54:07.264Z
       
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       @coolboymew@shitposter.world @koimoa@binky.fish How would you help them?
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQYs39nXab8DVZXyy by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T00:57:18.613779Z
       
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       @weeble @koimoa laugh at them when Microsoft recordeverythingyoudo makes it even easier for malwares to get your passwords
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQZyCFYkKcy6rlJ2W by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T01:09:40.257125Z
       
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       @coolboymew @weeble @koimoa These people deserve death
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQa9vh08FY6EVBzFI by penny@mk.noob.quest
       2025-02-24T01:11:40.877Z
       
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       @weeble@fedi.bungle.online @coolboymew@shitposter.world @koimoa@binky.fish getting into a Serious Discussion with Krompus_Mcdickenstein about linux
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQczLSsGsZsqCEHC4 by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
       2025-02-24T01:39:33.113Z
       
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       @coolboymew@shitposter.world @koimoa@binky.fish Average Unga Bunga Shitstain OS user btw 👆👆👆
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQd505ydPouIpDRjc by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T01:44:28.731828Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew I wouldn't be surprised if they're ex linux users tbf (I'd say the similar things)
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQdD6ywuk4XygnR7A by anemone@ebiverse.social
       2025-02-24T01:45:54.611Z
       
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       @coolboymew@shitposter.world @weeble@fedi.bungle.online @koimoa@binky.fish thats why i use mac
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQdGsjnoezkxTVdzc by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T01:46:39.764440Z
       
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       @anemone @koimoa @weeble I hate Macs
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQdIaPwtw66ib2HlQ by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T01:46:58.286936Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew I'm just joking but their messages just made me think of people that express contempt for being expected to have to learn anything at all to use something.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQdu7BY2CEz3nC8sy by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T01:53:44.442507Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew well, i have learned a lot these 4 years, and considering how the stuff is, I can't blame them. People oversell the linux experience but it's a lottery.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQdw6wxscFouTKFN2 by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T01:54:06.211771Z
       
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       @anemone @koimoa @coolboymew @weeble how does it feel to Think Different
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQe4wZ9rAp5JKOyLQ by fknretardlol@decayable.ink
       2025-02-24T01:55:41.618138Z
       
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       /BONKall you can do for the idiot
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQeFs1F6QY8OTkSbw by wishgranter14@poa.st
       2025-02-24T01:57:41.889417Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @sun i went through a period where i went back to windows, but i soon realized that instead of having things a pain to install and setup, other things would be just as frustrating.  while i get what the OP users are saying, there is a trade off, and i'd rather not have ever last single thing i do on my PC being logged by microsuck.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQelloBjFOsOmqxsW by wzqtparor@fedibird.com
       2025-02-24T02:03:25Z
       
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       Mac just cancelled end-to-end encryption in UK.Anyoen who use Windows or Mac, just don't care about privacy and security.@anemone @koimoa @coolboymew @weeble
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQf0os0czpSEoogro by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:06:09.731937Z
       
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       @wishgranter14 @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @mischievoustomato it might be because I'm used to things now but the last several times I've installed an OS I found Linux easier to install and easier to use than Windows has become.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQfEfZxy6nbTbyuVE by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:08:39.117989Z
       
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       @sun @wishgranter14 @koimoa @mischievoustomato @weeble While KDE has some level of settings it needs to do better, Windows has made a monumental mess of settings panels in generalAlso what's with this two context menu garbage with the "even more" for the classic one, what?Start menu is a hot mess tooKDE is way, waaaaaay better
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQfKxnb8lQzipMItc by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:09:48.627138Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @mischievoustomato @weeble @wishgranter14 I can't even really quantify it, everything just feels smoother and easier now and windows feels like a fucking mess
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQfSGwoLQy78a9YeG by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:11:07.826708Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @mischievoustomato @weeble @wishgranter14 10 already wasn't hot but I used 11 recently to test user upgrading experience and Jesus ChristNone of it feels good, they made a monumental mess
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQfcSAnSm5KqgY8YK by wishgranter14@poa.st
       2025-02-24T02:12:58.726523Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @mischievoustomato I think win11 inserted too much 'spyware' or whatever it's called these days.  I only used tiny win11 (bcuz my radar detectors' software wouldn't work with wine), but even that had all these widgets and other oddities that just seemed like were there to appeal to normalfaggots.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQffnC1lh46uRiXi4 by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:13:34.068074Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @mischievoustomato @weeble @wishgranter14 on top of the start menu ad, annoying weather widget, lock screen ads, shitty news buttonIt doesn't feel like you own your computer anymore
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQfi8FaRr4KnTUvtA by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:13:59.837849Z
       
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       @wishgranter14 @koimoa @weeble @sun @mischievoustomato I was just complaining about these lol
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQgAbNljJLVFxttBY by wishgranter14@poa.st
       2025-02-24T02:19:09.214208Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @mischievoustomato  they made some requirements of the file system  that made it unnecessarily complex. easy enough if you're installing on a virtual machine or blank hard drive, but if you already have a bootloader and OS, you have to open a book.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQgMkjmm1NPkIzbXs by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:21:20.299342Z
       
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       @wishgranter14 @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @mischievoustomato I blame microsoft and intel for that rather than Linux but I agree with you, I am talking from the case of just one os on a computer because multiple os is kind of an advanced configuration
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQgRm9OwlepZoMx9M by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:22:14.428767Z
       
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       @sun @wishgranter14 @koimoa @mischievoustomato @weeble 1 per harddrive is good enough
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQgrRJL3Dx0TMFr1c by wishgranter14@poa.st
       2025-02-24T02:26:53.753545Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @weeble @sun @mischievoustomato multiple OS installs are pretty straight forward if you install windows first.  because windows tends to vomit over everything, while linux is more precise.  after installing windows, you install lilo or grub over the windows bootloader, but i've used the windows bootloader before.  it's a little awkward, but doable.  although, that was with win7, so i don't know how things have changed.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQgyls70LWcGg12G0 by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:28:12.689424Z
       
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       @wishgranter14 @koimoa @weeble @sun @mischievoustomato  Still, with the prices of SSD being cheap here and there, it's not worth fucking with that
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhDq6FZDnhizoVxw by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:30:51.453712Z
       
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       @wishgranter14 @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @sun for me, it's that linux, with all its faults, is faster, can be set up how i want (i use nixos lol) and seeing development of it can be exciting. It's not perfect and many times I wanna just get a macbook, but it's something that I can't do yet for many reasons
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhEDbaAtWucpeMUq by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:31:00.055511Z
       
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       @wishgranter14 @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @mischievoustomato Windows used to be completely unaware of multiple OS and would overwrite it randomly on new updates. Then they got a little less aggressive and made it do some basic checks to not blast a second os."innovations" since Windows 7:* EFI and secureboot where Linux won't even install unless it's signed by a cryptographic key provided by Microsoft* They're back to updates sometimes blasting away your second OS. This falls into the category of "we're not doing it on purpose but we also don't give a fuck about other os because we have no incentive to and it would take effort"
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhH5Oz89DY3J7oZc by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:31:30.454334Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @coolboymew I don't know, i installed windows 11 on a vm and it was just a matter of clicking next, which is about the same for a people -friendly distro
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhMjq2DUoouYTMKO by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:32:31.770769Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @sun oh yeah, KDE is definitely better than windows, even if its quite buggy. It's astounding how MS just can't modernize.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhS9fhb2COToDqs4 by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:33:30.482434Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @sun pretty much. I only have to use it because of a vm for a game
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhXO5nPJaQeYvGWe by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:34:27.209264Z
       
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       @wishgranter14 @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @sun ui bling bling is nice, but man, it has to have taste and not be sluggish/stupid.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhbEB0DVAP3dBmgS by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:35:08.903569Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @sun i think it's funny they put news on the start menu thing, when people these days trust mainstream media news very, very little.also, it's written in react lmao
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhcpvtKEUuRit80u by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:35:27.397751Z
       
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       @wishgranter14 @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @sun oof
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhgAgSd69NfoGECW by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:36:02.347168Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @coolboymew intel? doesn't amd have the psp thing too or what are you talking about?
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhhXfgeF2LG1YJIO by wishgranter14@poa.st
       2025-02-24T02:36:18.767764Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @coolboymew @mischievoustomato win10 never did anything like that.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhlJHg56s1nK7RMO by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:36:58.888054Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @sun Every time I teamviewer in I accidentally open that crap I hate it
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhmF2nKbQavxbNDM by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:37:09.024304Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @coolboymew issues I had:made me sign up for an online accountgave me deceptive options during install related to trackingafter install had to go through and uninstall several unwanted applications that were preinstalled and popped up trying to sell me subscriptionsStarted in S-mode, I didn't know what it was yet but it made installing some applications impossible and it wasn't clear why it wasn't working.printer and scanner no longer supported, had to help my uncle buy a new one that worked in windows 11
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhnMB0IZzdLOyP5c by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:37:20.624921Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @coolboymew at least most laptops should have the possibility to set up your own keys for secure boot
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQhqLgcZqCwh2BlYW by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:37:53.940027Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @sun lol
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQi4IZQxVQV5ETjwe by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:40:24.225544Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @coolboymew yeouch, i just had to deal with it on a vm
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQih94YCr6mv3YalE by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:47:25.933256Z
       
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       @sun @mischievoustomato @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 >made me sign up for an online accountThere's still a way, before the wifi setup, you open cmd with Shift + F10 and type OOBE\BYPASSNRO and it will restart and have a "I have no internet" option. Yes, this you still have to do this on a Pro install, which is fucking bullshit
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQijocyfxgeNbvupU by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-02-24T02:47:54.358547Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @sun I just signed in for my vm because i'm lazy and that outlook account has nothing at all on it lol
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQimIVWYREFd5d8am by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:48:21.889556Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @mischievoustomato @weeble @wishgranter14 last I heard they closed the hole. anyway I accidentally added a wifi connection and after I did that even completely wiping the machine that trick wouldn't work anymore
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQiqRpxoDHdiuAadE by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:49:06.624060Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @mischievoustomato @weeble @wishgranter14 no idea I haven't directly installed 11 yet
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQj7wC6CB5EnSrZdA by Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo
       2025-02-24T02:52:13.718296Z
       
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       Not defending it but you can do it through domain join if you have a pro license
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQjccLQ2ufqD9qsDo by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T02:57:49.294604Z
       
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       @Tsuki @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @sun @mischievoustomato  from the installer?
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQkGUuJ7JOsjDBdnk by Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo
       2025-02-24T03:04:59.175277Z
       
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       yeah I think it's under the "login with Microsoft" part it says "domain join instead"
       
 (DIR) Post #ArQkLCPvI2b4pXDUyu by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-24T03:05:52.648402Z
       
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       @Tsuki @koimoa @weeble @wishgranter14 @sun @mischievoustomato right, but the problem with this is work at home and needing VPN for this option. Possibly can do internet share with another laptop, but, man
       
 (DIR) Post #ArSedH4sURGp5XWpfM by Mikle_Bond@pony.social
       2025-02-25T01:10:39Z
       
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       @coolboymew @Tsuki @koimoa @sun @mischievoustomato You can also try https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/There are lots of tricks, including online account skip and BypassNRO mentioned above.Still, the "Skip TPM" trick didn't work when I tried it. There are lots of sources saying you can install W11 without TPM, but maybe they are outdated.
       
 (DIR) Post #ArSejMQBXFJxOnOfia by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-02-25T01:12:26.403493Z
       
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       @Mikle_Bond @Tsuki @koimoa @sun @mischievoustomato oh, very nice, I'll keep note of that site
       
 (DIR) Post #Asy52CxRxoBPCFsCDg by Uraael@kitty.social
       2025-04-11T02:54:25.770Z
       
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       @sun@shitposter.world @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @koimoa@binky.fish @weeble@fedi.bungle.online @coolboymew@shitposter.world Yep. Drives me nuts. Folks used to be this exact form of mocking dicks about Mastodon too, because of course using that takes PHD-level rocket surgery.  (In fact ths attitude can still be found over on Bluesky).
       
 (DIR) Post #Asy5FxrashKuR6h41A by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T02:57:48.674124Z
       
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       @Uraael @koimoa @sun @weeble @mischievoustomato  the ultra convenience problem. Using the computer used to take a minimum level of learn and competency, more so in the DOS era, for example, and now smartphones ruined everythingThe problem usually is that ultra convenience always leads to bad things because of sheer laziness. The fediverse takes a bit to get used to, there's some inconveniences, but ultimately, it's so much better than any other big social media, and this is the ultimate prize of being slightly inconvenienced
       
 (DIR) Post #Asy6IzggeiM6usbHnc by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
       2025-04-11T03:03:57.594Z
       
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       @coolboymew@shitposter.world @Uraael@kitty.social @koimoa@binky.fish @sun@shitposter.world @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love I think the peeps in pic are retarded but the average computer person today just wants to keep in touch with friends and watch videos, while the average computer person pre-90's and before were programmers/students/office workers etc.Using a computer to browse the internet or watch a vid should not be complicated
       
 (DIR) Post #Asy6J0r0JqCcXAR2WG by coolboymew@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T03:09:30.187214Z
       
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       @weeble @koimoa @sun @Uraael @mischievoustomato Look, I used to work tech support and the shit I've seen. A lady proclaimed, proudly at that, that she was using the computer for a few years, so she should be able to understand the instructions"Alright, open your browser""Uh?""The web navigator, Internet Explorer""Uhh....""The blue e"She then got it. Remember that in Windows, usually, shortcuts are namedThe level of sheer ignorance,  incompetence an ultimately, the lack of care in even the basics of basics in something you use everyday like this is insane
       
 (DIR) Post #Asy6cM13rXfjfZMV9s by Uraael@kitty.social
       2025-04-11T03:11:43.452Z
       
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       @weeble@fedi.bungle.online @coolboymew@shitposter.world @koimoa@binky.fish @sun@shitposter.world @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love Yep, and Linux can absolutely be that simple for them.But speaking for myself I'm glad I learned computers when I did (the 80s) because it's helping me learn the more complicated parts of Linux now, which is proving immensely enjoyable.
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyAuE2mdpYPyOwdOa by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2025-04-11T04:01:02.809774Z
       
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       @coolboymew @koimoa @mischievoustomato @sun @weeble @wishgranter14 remember they renamed the "My Computer" icon to "This PC"
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyeFBtailj83vziIi by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T09:29:50.946684Z
       
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       @weeble @koimoa @coolboymew @Uraael @mischievoustomato my belief is that most things should be a little hard to use so you activate your brain when you pick it up which stimulates you into figuring it out yourself. what I found was that with tablets and phone the absolute handholding results in complete brain shutoff then simple problems are not even solvable. in other words a little difficulty puts your brain into the right mode.
       
 (DIR) Post #Asyfs6gU8A2j9Cz63s by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2025-04-11T09:47:58.415055Z
       
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       @sun @weeble @Uraael @coolboymew @koimoa @mischievoustomato ayo das rayciss12513879605_b675af6fa9.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #AsygiiaaRjY3lXJRkO by Uraael@kitty.social
       2025-04-11T09:48:56.469Z
       
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       @sun@shitposter.world @weeble@fedi.bungle.online @koimoa@binky.fish @coolboymew@shitposter.world @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love That sounds super-exhausting. My god, no. I appreciate a challenge, grit makes pearls, but I wouldn't want all challenge all the time. Sometimes it is vital that things just work easily and with the absolute minimum of fuss, and sometimes I just need to relax, you know?Look. Some of the comments here are veering off into kind of abusive/derogatory/judgemental regarding device-usage, and I just want to be clear that wanting a box with one big shiny button on it is, by itself, not any kind of failing. You don't know what that person does in their lives that might mean they don't have the resource to sit and troubleshoot bugged code for four hours a day. Other people just aren't that way inclined, and that is perfectly valid. Computer illiteracy isn't a crime, or some societal death-knell. [#Relax]. What bugs me personally is when that becomes obnoxious crowd-pleasing mockery; those people can fuck off. But perhaps if we weren't calling them "retards" and making them feel stupid they'd be less inclined to be like that?But for your basic 'I just want email that works' person I have no beef with them whatsoever. I have a colleague at work who finds IT use really really hard and it shocked me how little she understood basic concepts, but from her I learned that people with IT skills need to have tolerance for and patience with those that it doesn't come easy to, and not try to berate/guilt them into becoming sysadmins.
       
 (DIR) Post #Asygijz5G8jo5nmWZM by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T09:57:34.328943Z
       
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       @Uraael @koimoa @coolboymew @weeble @mischievoustomato the tweet in op was making fun of people like me first> But perhaps if we weren't calling them "retards" and making them feel stupid they'd be less inclined to be like that?I don't do this to people that ask me for help in earnest, just people that aggressively refuse to learn how to use a complicated tool.it is possible to make a tool too easy to use, if it's an inherently complicated tool for example.
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyhmJxw2NlUVgW1HU by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2025-04-11T10:09:24.828968Z
       
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       @hakui @koimoa @weeble @Uraael @coolboymew @sun @mischievoustomato holy templeos2ad45f74697a7e5741c06a42dc4827f…
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyiZEqLs2r2oTII2y by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2025-04-11T10:18:16.593001Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @Uraael @coolboymew @mischievoustomato >what I found was that with tablets and phone the absolute handholding results in complete brain shutoff then simple problems are not even solvable.From interacting with young zoomers/gen alpha and having to fix "computer" issues for them, I've soon realized that phones make people that know nothing about computers create "paths" that lead them to an end goal, instead of making them think how you get to the end goal. A similar behavior to elderly people that never learned how to use a computer when they were young. As a result every action has a path (pattern of actions) that needs to be done and they don't think about the reasoning behind that pattern. They've learned that some other options are hidden behind a hamburger (three dot) menu, but change the location of that button in the app and they are doomed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyiaNGK3TDnDHz1FI by Uraael@kitty.social
       2025-04-11T10:10:34.313Z
       
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       @sun@shitposter.world @koimoa@binky.fish @coolboymew@shitposter.world @weeble@fedi.bungle.online @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love Disagree. There's nothing inherently noble or valuable about tool-complexity. Believing so is an ideological bias.The whole foundational principle of software is that it makes work easier, allows us to do more than we can do by ourselves. If you're building it with the intent to aggravate users into becoming more capable software users, you're doing it wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyiaOJu7dgGUgfOT2 by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T10:18:28.371989Z
       
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       @Uraael @koimoa @coolboymew @weeble @mischievoustomato > The whole foundational principle of software is that it makes work easierdumbed down tools make my job harder. I run into this all the time. you can't please everybody but we shouldn't make tools less   useful> There's nothing inherently noble or valuable about tool-complexity. Believing so is an ideological bias.it is a heterodox opinion but it is my opinion based on experience.
       
 (DIR) Post #Asyijt6p1EBoag4lLk by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T10:20:13.012022Z
       
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       @Uraael @coolboymew @koimoa @mischievoustomato @weeble if we don't agree that's fine but I just wanted to state my opinion. I think there should be a small learning curve rather than dumb down the tool to the top 60% of use-cases
       
 (DIR) Post #Asyj4Dp1iaDeceRrBQ by Uraael@kitty.social
       2025-04-11T10:23:01.480Z
       
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       @sun@shitposter.world @coolboymew@shitposter.world @koimoa@binky.fish @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @weeble@fedi.bungle.online But why? Why force people to learn if we don't have to? That's as obnoxious as the OP tweets.
       
 (DIR) Post #Asyj4Eo03szZfkyYDo by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T10:23:52.024803Z
       
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       @Uraael @koimoa @coolboymew @weeble @mischievoustomato I am not arguing for overly complicated tools, I am arguing that an inherently complicated tool shouldn't be expected to be able to use without learning. a general purpose computer is that
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyjHnX4G89h8mWP5c by p
       2025-04-11T10:26:21.761425Z
       
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       @Uraael @koimoa @coolboymew @sun @weeble @mischievoustomato > Disagree. There's nothing inherently noble or valuable about tool-complexity. Believing so is an ideological bias.No, but I'm on the same side of this as @sun .  It's not that the complexity is good, but that tools are tailored to the person using them and this includes skill level.  A chef doesn't use the same tools in the kitchen that I use, and I wouldn't expect most people to use the same software tools I use.> If you're building it with the intent to aggravate users into becoming more capable software users, you're doing it wrong.The ideological bias is that a programmer shouldn't build tools that appeal to other programmers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyjgKbawiWofHKzoW by Uraael@kitty.social
       2025-04-11T10:30:46.703Z
       
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       @p@fsebugoutzone.org @koimoa@binky.fish @coolboymew@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world @weeble@fedi.bungle.online @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love In your kitchen example you've just said that there is a choice between what tools can be used. A Chef would make different choices than an ordinary cook.The Chef isn't out there demanding that ordinary cooks use their tools.That's the point I'm making. You don't need to force people to use complicated tools, just because you find them better for your tasks. Plain, simple tools are fine for those that want them. I'm not saying complicated software is bad - I routinely choose more complex software in my personal life, KDE over Gnome, Vivaldi over Chrome and so on. All I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with software being ABC simple. I hate Gnome's simplicity but Gnome suits people other than me, and that's brilliant.
       
 (DIR) Post #AsykwxRCR5qvgky1vk by p
       2025-04-11T10:45:00.377417Z
       
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       @Uraael @koimoa @coolboymew @sun @weeble @mischievoustomato > The Chef isn't out there demanding that ordinary cooks use their tools.No, but a food processor doesn't second-guess you and actively try to prevent you from learning how to use a knife, and people that just cook at home don't shit on chefs for knowing how to use a knife.> You don't need to force people to use complicated tools, just because you find them better for your tasks. Plain, simple tools are fine for those that want them.A food processor is much more complicated than a knife, but using a knife the way a chef uses it has a steep learning curve.  There's "simple to use because it expects nothing of you and tries to bury complexity" and "simple because it doesn't hide anything".> KDE over Gnome, Vivaldi over Chrome"KDE vs. GNOME" is like "KitchenAid vs. Cuisinart".  Those tools are roughly in the same class of complexity.
       
 (DIR) Post #Asykx0wrNpxcZonrCC by p
       2025-04-11T10:45:00.995158Z
       
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       @Uraael @koimoa @coolboymew @sun @weeble @mischievoustomato > The Chef isn't out there demanding that ordinary cooks use their tools.No, but a food processor doesn't second-guess you and actively try to prevent you from learning how to use a knife, and people that just cook at home don't shit on chefs for knowing how to use a knife.> You don't need to force people to use complicated tools, just because you find them better for your tasks. Plain, simple tools are fine for those that want them.A food processor is much more complicated than a knife, but using a knife the way a chef uses it has a steep learning curve.  There's "simple to use because it expects nothing of you and tries to bury complexity" and "simple because it doesn't hide anything".> KDE over Gnome, Vivaldi over Chrome"KDE vs. GNOME" is like "KitchenAid vs. Cuisinart".  Those tools are roughly in the same class of complexity.
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyuMXCLW2gNQOI46C by moth_ball@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T12:30:27.387159Z
       
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       @penny @koimoa @coolboymew @weeble Tell me about it. Only users worth taking advice from are CunnyEnjoyer1488, mating_press and Boobaphile
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyuUhshgDDksI02N6 by sun@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T12:31:55.870371Z
       
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       @moth_ball @penny @coolboymew @koimoa @weeble gokurapist is my friend
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyuXJO9CT2JmQwvEe by nyanide@lab.nyanide.com
       2025-04-11T12:32:23.659180Z
       
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       @weeble @koimoa @coolboymew bottom post is licherally ragebait
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyubL2V0KGW3gkACW by moth_ball@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T12:33:05.761621Z
       
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       @sun @coolboymew @koimoa @penny @weeble the offensive usernames are way more open to discussion than anyone on blowjobsky
       
 (DIR) Post #Asyuf9y66kZ8sfVUkC by nyanide@lab.nyanide.com
       2025-04-11T12:33:48.871941Z
       
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       @moth_ball @koimoa @weeble @penny @coolboymew @sun or masterbaitdon am I right?
       
 (DIR) Post #Asywl8M9DLj5WijTxg by tomey@shitposter.world
       2025-04-11T12:57:19.174963Z
       
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       @sun @coolboymew @koimoa @weeble i really don't understand why somebody would write that nonsense and be so angrily dismissive of linux. it's just computer software, man.
       
 (DIR) Post #Asyy7yEv5rLQlVnyy0 by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
       2025-04-11T03:14:57.136Z
       
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       @coolboymew@shitposter.world @koimoa@binky.fish @sun@shitposter.world @Uraael@kitty.social @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love There will always be stupid ppl. No need to make computers complicated cuz u hate doing tech support
       
 (DIR) Post #Asyy7zEbOWgVqofF6u by koimoa@binky.fish
       2025-04-11T04:16:39.776Z
       
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       @weeble@fedi.bungle.online @coolboymew@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world @Uraael@kitty.social @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love agreed, and that's why smartphones and tablets took over in that regard, but for me I use whatever I feel like and I don't really fanboy (too much) over a particular OSI use windows for gaming and art, tho I strip out a lot of the bloatI use Linux for maintaining my VPS and other shitI have a Mac mini that I use as a desktopI have Haiku that I use for DAW stuffAin't a perfect OS IMHO they're all ass in their special way but I use whatever gets the job done. I think calling people idiots or whatever isn't gonna convince them to switch to a particular system, they just want what works and that's it
       
 (DIR) Post #AsyyFQS0bUKKHtTxVg by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
       2025-04-11T13:13:58.124183Z
       
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       @sun @koimoa @weeble @Uraael @coolboymew i still hold the belief that its the school system that should teach people how2computer well