Post Ar3nDsaOSDnuWbElG4 by foone@digipres.club
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(DIR) Post #Ar3lRdtBh4bH5aSl7I by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T00:59:20Z
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I love when PC games make you enter your name with an on-screen keyboard.You know, just in case you're one of those weirdos who has a PC but it's a PC without a keyboard.
(DIR) Post #Ar3lVvwwUFekGGGVto by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T00:59:38Z
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especially in the DOS era. if you don't have a keyboard, how did you launch the game?
(DIR) Post #Ar3lcABUTYeE9A2aAK by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2025-02-13T01:01:11Z
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@foone DOS Shell!
(DIR) Post #Ar3lfBAZGm1Q4S2zBo by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:01:31Z
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@mDuo13 okay point, but I'm playing a game from 1992. they could not have predicted the steamdeck
(DIR) Post #Ar3liAqouUk9x4EqES by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:01:43Z
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@va2lam isn't the dosshell still keyboard driven?
(DIR) Post #Ar3m3CH6oKzYRvYjbs by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2025-02-13T01:06:09Z
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@foone Wikipedia says a mouse was supported (if the driver was loaded).
(DIR) Post #Ar3mEIdZUpl1MpMO8m by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:08:12Z
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I HAD TO HAVE A KEYBOARD TO GET THIS FAR, WHY ARE YOU SHOWING ME AN ON-SCREEN KEYBOARD?They at least let you use the real keyboard, I've definitely run into games that didn't.
(DIR) Post #Ar3mWqAFa9c4YuUD68 by theogrin@chaosfem.tw
2025-02-13T01:11:16Z
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@foone Autoexec.bat, config.sys, himem.sys and emm386.exe, all lovingly configured for each individual game!
(DIR) Post #Ar3mZyk693Yk2GkZuK by rk@mastodon.well.com
2025-02-13T01:11:20Z
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@foone Commodore released the C64GS in December of 1990. It was a fully-functional Commodore 64, without a keyboard, designed to play C64 cartridge games. Most C64 cartridge games required a keyboard, often for such mundane things as “press space bar to start game”
(DIR) Post #Ar3mesSCx9sdyoiaEC by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:11:31Z
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This version is from 1992-1995 which is Peak CD-ROM Era, so maybe they were thinking about how they'd port this game to the Sega CD, CD-i, CDTV, LaserActive, NeoGeo CD, 3DO, Saturn, Playstation, Pippin, PC-FX, FM-Towns Marty, and most importantly, the Tandy-Memorex VIS
(DIR) Post #Ar3metOLT0Nut7v0qW by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:11:41Z
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but they didn't port it to any of those, so fuck them
(DIR) Post #Ar3mjlswnqJ53UYiTQ by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:13:20Z
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@josh0 I've done that more than once. Fun fact: I used the windows API to position the cursor, then used my "keyboard" to click it.
(DIR) Post #Ar3mrCb9smzlvomWFU by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:15:07Z
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speaking of "fuck them", mobygames considers that "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? Deluxe" from 1992 is an unrelated game to "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" from 1994.Here's a side by side screenshot comparison.
(DIR) Post #Ar3mv1yPKPPi8YTvtI by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:15:36Z
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YOU SEE IT HAS TO BE A DIFFERENT GAME BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THE , UH, PALETTE
(DIR) Post #Ar3myxXvjJDNZ5yEUq by capeta@ursal.zone
2025-02-13T01:16:24Z
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@foone maybe you're a certain type of person that likes doing make shift input devices, you know... like composing a post with floppy discs or other antics like that 😅{{ nsert list of foone antics with non-keyboard input devices here }}
(DIR) Post #Ar3n3hc0OtAFas8dfM by DrewNaylor@mastodon.online
2025-02-13T01:17:00Z
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@foone I was one of those weirdos in the mid 2000s with the home desktop computer. I don't know why it had no keyboard. I could play Jimmy Neutron and Obstacle Odyssey on it though, since they both supported mouse-only input. No on-screen keyboard that I can remember, though. Mostly I played both (among other games) on a laptop that had better graphics hardware (the desktop couldn't do transparent glass). Both systems were Pentium III at best and the laptop came with Me.
(DIR) Post #Ar3n5zkPwYGcQ5AMUa by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:17:05Z
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@josh0 not yet but I'll have to put it on the todo
(DIR) Post #Ar3nAdEp3q7Q3UbCEK by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:17:59Z
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@joby strange, because they're so completely different
(DIR) Post #Ar3nDsaOSDnuWbElG4 by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:18:58Z
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god created humans to do two things:1. name/categorize things2. argue about how other people have named or categorized them incorrectly
(DIR) Post #Ar3nDwO8JkNEJjX1hg by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:19:04Z
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I'm a pope, I know these things
(DIR) Post #Ar3nL5EXpSvVmHS7lI by Video_Game_King@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:20:25Z
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@foone MobyGames can be and always has been very exacting about differentiating games. We're lucky the update a year or two ago let you parent different game versions together. Before that, you had to pretend a single game somehow constituted a franchise.
(DIR) Post #Ar3nmis8YtQoX89QnY by knf100@sfba.social
2025-02-13T01:25:31Z
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@foone here’s a page of Limericks from Thomas Pynchon.
(DIR) Post #Ar3o42Evo4DrWY4HnU by redrummy@ohai.social
2025-02-13T01:28:36Z
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@foone I feel like this post is so generally applicable to both positive and negative discrimination. We need to be able to put things into bins to discern differences, but of course that leads to conflicts of useful vs biased discriminations. And hence we go on.
(DIR) Post #Ar3oQUg0lAzC5dRZGS by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:32:47Z
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it's fun to look back at old games made during the period of Wow Graphics (which we might still be in, I'm afraid) and they've got a brand new version of an old game where they've updated it to look way shinier with digitized photos and sound and music and it's now a worse game.
(DIR) Post #Ar3oXrkPNh2pfc1248 by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:34:04Z
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the core gameplay is intact (Carmen Sandiego is not a franchise known for innovation) but they've made everything take 20 times longer in order to show off they have 640 megabytes of storage space and by god they're going to use it. We're lucky we don't have FMV of flying between each of the cities
(DIR) Post #Ar3ou7Le3jCyQR2k3k by preinheimer@phpc.social
2025-02-13T01:38:09Z
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@foone somehow this brings “mega race” to mind. An early cd-rom game. Memory is clearly fuzzy, but I think it had a bunch of stuff to show off how much storage they had on a single speed cd-rom
(DIR) Post #Ar3p1S5PLzZalpwhQ8 by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:39:25Z
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it's also the era where everyone was so excited that we could FINALLY include digitized speech that every game added it and very few of them had subtitles.So it was a massive backslide in accessibility, something DOS was never that great about in the first place
(DIR) Post #Ar3p9BFZpjJws5O5Gy by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:40:27Z
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@Kufat I am currently working on hacking a Carmen Sandiego so DO NOT TEMPT ME
(DIR) Post #Ar3pC69pDzGbwf5Xw8 by vurpo@mastodon.coffee
2025-02-13T01:41:03Z
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@foone i read this as "WoW graphics"
(DIR) Post #Ar3pJxvrgo3qkgJHvc by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:42:41Z
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@sitharus yeah, exactly! half the time you'd get stuck at a "no keyboard detected, press f1 to continue" bios screen
(DIR) Post #Ar3pP1LuOvsAo5u0Tg by chrisamaphone@hci.social
2025-02-13T01:43:42Z
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@foone then i am fulfilling my divine purpose. this gives me solace
(DIR) Post #Ar3qEye1iJE9T29SPA by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T01:53:06Z
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@pixx yup
(DIR) Post #Ar3qJHoCP70k3txqpU by 00dani@elekk.xyz
2025-02-13T01:53:15Z
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@fooneat least we got "where in time is carmen sandiego?" (1997), which actually does play completely differently from "where in time is carmen sandiego?" (1989), since it's a point-and-click adventure game rather than a deductive strategy gameapparently they rebranded the newer game as "carmen sandiego's great chase through time" in 1999 to reduce confusion, but the version i had as a kid still carried the original name :blobcatgooglyshrug:
(DIR) Post #Ar3rRAHONgMSyuwKlU by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T02:06:31Z
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I mean, compatibility as well. Enhanced, the previous version from 1990, supports like 7 graphics standards and almost as many soundcards. it'll run on basically anything but the original IBM MDA card, and that card can't even do graphics. the 1992 Deluxe release? It needs a CD-ROM drive, one of 5 sound cards, and you need VGA.
(DIR) Post #Ar3rUUNu5TyIClZRVw by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T02:07:05Z
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it feels like they went from "this is an educational game, we need it to run on whatever potato the school has" to "lets try to sell people on this ADVANCED NEW TECHNOLOGY!"
(DIR) Post #Ar3rXuL42xfPZLsAWO by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T02:07:18Z
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which is a shame, in my opinion.
(DIR) Post #Ar3rrOoaxd3rakyoGO by Laukidh@infosec.exchange
2025-02-13T02:11:17Z
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@foone
(DIR) Post #Ar3srs6EBLR0N014xE by tekhedd@byteheaven.net
2025-02-13T02:22:29Z
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@foone Well, timing-wise, the "oh just buy a VGA card" was pretty much a thing. Hell, my secondhand fliptop XT (that I traded my car for in 1991) had a greyscale VGA card, and it was obsolete then.Just saying: a lot changed in a few years about then. :)
(DIR) Post #Ar3tjlKFaCoazzGx9s by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T02:32:17Z
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@tekhedd it's a lot harder a thing for a school, which might have a LOT of computers to upgrade. And the previous version supported VGA just fine too, it also could run on older graphics cards too. They could have made this version so that'd it'd just downgrade for older computers, but nope.
(DIR) Post #Ar3uDhIf7ALbCWntMO by tekhedd@byteheaven.net
2025-02-13T02:37:43Z
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@foone I absolutely agree. But if I was a software developer in 92... oh wait, I was... OK so I would have said "OK is there any driving business need for anything other than the new, definitely dominant VGA standard? Because if not there's no way in hell we should support the rest of these." and management would say "well we might lose a handful of sales".I hate the "upgrade everything now" cycle but graphics was BS before VGA. :D
(DIR) Post #Ar3xamqYxQquvXMVPs by grs@infosec.exchange
2025-02-13T03:15:22Z
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@foone Then he created alcohol, to apologize for making us do those two things.
(DIR) Post #Ar3xq6tEihSrQvv3Tc by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T03:18:16Z
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@cheddarcrisp I know! I'm not joking when I say I'm a pope.
(DIR) Post #Ar3xtVXvVMn6lwZW3U by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T03:18:47Z
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@ckape that's probably 90% of why it exists, to bundle with cd-rom drives and sound cards
(DIR) Post #Ar3xxiPnbIN5qJmD7g by foone@digipres.club
2025-02-13T03:19:13Z
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@SpindleyQ no worries. It's a good idea
(DIR) Post #Ar4Dh51xrUIwKMiZEG by mjfgates@wandering.shop
2025-02-13T06:15:50Z
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@foone These are completely different, one of them has a monkey.
(DIR) Post #Ar4G20NEZT31sElvJQ by bmartin427@techhub.social
2025-02-13T06:42:07Z
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@foone Monopoly SNES vs Monopoly NES
(DIR) Post #Ar4HuIeCwggI8mAHlg by RueNahcMohr@infosec.exchange
2025-02-13T07:03:07Z
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@foone 3 move things around. Most of what we do is just moving things around. but I suppose naming and categorizing them is kinda key to that...
(DIR) Post #Ar4Hxag2MvMEvWacwS by RueNahcMohr@infosec.exchange
2025-02-13T07:03:27Z
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@foone thats what you do? you pope and know things?
(DIR) Post #Ar4KoPgSAiiI5W6G8W by RonanLK@piaille.fr
2025-02-13T07:35:33Z
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@foone And it's not just an on-screen keyboard, it's on a screen in the game ui. It's an on-screen on-screen keyboard.
(DIR) Post #Ar4RH63Qpdm9KbuNt2 by darkling@mstdn.social
2025-02-13T08:48:01Z
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@foone Having been at least a part-time professional ontologist, I feel *very* seen.
(DIR) Post #Ar4lw0wGkpEoQELY48 by wakingrufus@bigshoulders.city
2025-02-13T12:39:31Z
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@fooneWow this screenshot brings back memories