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(DIR) Post #Ar2MvqItPQCqGepWq0 by pylapp@framapiaf.org
2025-02-01T18:17:02Z
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Happy #GlobalSwitchDay :blobnomcookie: #fediverse #opensource #Pixelfed #Lemmy #Mastodon #PeerTube #Signal :boost_requested: :fediverse:Original post: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/29629319
(DIR) Post #Ar2Mvqu7B1yq86FFr6 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T08:50:20.307Z
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@pylapp@framapiaf.org While I agree with most of these.Please do not recommend Signal as this is proprietary software.Also do not imply that Signal is part of the Fediverse, this is very misleading.
(DIR) Post #Ar2MymvUQHDmf4HvGa by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T08:51:02.473735Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp Moxie is explicitly anti-federated services.
(DIR) Post #Ar2N3mKg3dyIGfRtvU by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T08:51:50.656Z
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@sun@shitposter.world @pylapp@framapiaf.org who
(DIR) Post #Ar2N4x25lBTpkAJaam by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T08:52:08.967184Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp The guy who made and runs Signal
(DIR) Post #Ar2NKuA6CYX1TOfRse by bonifartius@qoto.org
2025-02-12T08:55:02Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp signal is an obvious spook op, like cloudflare.
(DIR) Post #Ar2Nvk56dxeOvJtiCG by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T09:01:39.742Z
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@sun@shitposter.world @pylapp@framapiaf.org Oh yeah I can imagine because otherwise he would've designed it with decentralization in mind.
(DIR) Post #Ar2O61HBZIo79FRqxk by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T09:03:32.714809Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp He's got an essay and a video somewhere where he explains why he thinks it's bad. I hate to admit though that he describes what Fedi became pretty accurately wrt development and extension.
(DIR) Post #Ar2OcOljl4lnHCB5iy by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T09:09:20.491Z
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@sun@shitposter.world @pylapp@framapiaf.org he describes what Fedi became pretty accuratelyhe explains why he thinks it's badI don't like him already, I think Fedi is great. Why does he think this is bad?
(DIR) Post #Ar2OqDXAKJKQUAx3Ue by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T09:11:54.148664Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp Fedi is great socially but the federated server model makes it extremely difficult to upgrade protocols and add features, see also smtp and xmpp.
(DIR) Post #Ar2RWweh9kPqUwyWrg by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T09:41:54.828Z
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@sun@shitposter.world @pylapp@framapiaf.org >it extremely difficult to upgrade protocols and add featuresThis is a good thing actually. We should prefer a stable protocol and featureset. I really dislike the "move fast and break things" mentality.I don't want things to break because some asshole decided they wanted to add a new shitfart feature, from a user perspective I like what I currently have.I do prefer XMPP's approach over the Fediverse tho. You know, with an actual standards foundation defining RFCs instead of every project just kinda doing their own thing?
(DIR) Post #Ar2Rg27uBTJ24ZyJ3g by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T09:43:31.586251Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun the foundation with RFCs is one of the major reasons why XMPP died out.
(DIR) Post #Ar2RgInGDTtRlTRYjw by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T09:43:43.077728Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp there is a FEP system for trying to coordinate, but it tends to be "describe what I already did". My impression is that certain projects are very disrespectful of trying to coordinate with others which is the wrong attitude to have with this kind of system, but that kind of demonstrates the problem
(DIR) Post #Ar2Rjoxl4Hp2PA21Mu by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T09:44:21.327862Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp also activitypub would need tons of breaking changes to be actually good
(DIR) Post #Ar2VY3TNh5VxkTT528 by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
2025-02-12T10:27:03.227673Z
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@sun What isn't "good" that would otherwise be "good" but which would break things? Genuinely curious, because I kinda like things here as they are. @pylapp @SuperDicq
(DIR) Post #Ar2Vat5ikVAGQ3kfaa by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T10:27:33.653156Z
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@adiz @pylapp @SuperDicq it's all technical stuff, not at the ux layer
(DIR) Post #Ar2X9cygkZRiXAakMK by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T10:44:57.665Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world why XMPP died out.What the fuck are you talking about I'm using XMPP right now?
(DIR) Post #Ar2XAQinnuRooNXlXU by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T10:45:09.283Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world And it's better than ever
(DIR) Post #Ar2XNrBGjzZudbGFQ8 by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T10:47:16.361902Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun around 2008-2010 XMPP was everywhere. Facebook had their XMPP federating. Google had XMPP federating. Even fucking Livejournal had a federating XMPP messaging integrated right into their whiny blogging shit.Today, XMPP is a relic used only by a bunch of stubborn nerds. Just like IRC is.Yes, I know that certain companies like Grindr use XMPP internally, but they might be using just about anything else since they don't federate.
(DIR) Post #Ar2XNzl0qyvJEm2uFE by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T10:47:35.242Z
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@sun@shitposter.world @pylapp@framapiaf.org Even better*ActivityPub is already good.
(DIR) Post #Ar2XTyyefNHGYWHXW4 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T10:48:41.644Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world XMPP is a relic used only by a bunch of stubborn nerds.Good, that's just about everyone I want to talk to anyway.
(DIR) Post #Ar2XbHtgilT9GIRTAO by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T10:49:44.038775Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun if that's your attitude, then sure. But in the same fashion I could claim ssh and wall is a working messaging protocol. Because I talked to people this way occasionally.
(DIR) Post #Ar2Xd4TdaVaMDe6jTM by adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
2025-02-12T10:50:21.567822Z
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@newt What's wrong with XMPP, though? There's no alternative, superior standard or protocol that I know of which killed and replaced it. All these companies just locked things down to their own proprietary solutions. @pylapp @SuperDicq @sun
(DIR) Post #Ar2XfXQ2x8cgYobWcK by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T10:50:45.230Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world I'm not arguing against the fact that ssh can be used a messaging protocol tho? I would actually agree with that statement.
(DIR) Post #Ar2XsUOjUrhUxHAJYO by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T10:52:53.724412Z
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@adiz @pylapp @SuperDicq @sun there are lots of alternatives to XMPP for talking to people. From Matrix to Facebook Messenger and Telegram.There are three massive issues:1. Servers implement incompatible sets of XEPs and often fail to federate some stuff;2. Clients are shit (especially when it comes to OMEME'o);3. Lack of expected features like normal filesharing.Every now and then I encounter a thread on fedi where someone whines that certain combinations of clients cannot talk to each other with OMEMO and this is funny as hell.
(DIR) Post #Ar2Y00EvVYkHjoA3xw by radmin@limepeeps.perchinup.top
2025-02-12T09:48:24.567Z
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@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @pylapp@framapiaf.org Signal is proprietary softwareHuh, how so? According to both Wikipedia and Signal's Github repo, Signal (both server and client) is copyleft under AGPL-3.0. If you mean that Signal is centralized, run by Shithub, or otherwise run by sus corpos greedier than the entire Fortune 500 list, I can see how it can be proprietary (or as bad as proprietary). I feel that it's still acceptable ethically, though, especially for those still stuck on shitware like Whatsapp and Telegram.
(DIR) Post #Ar2Y01LhNrkzB6KzA0 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T10:54:26.281Z
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@radmin@limepeeps.perchinup.top @pylapp@framapiaf.org Occasionally jumping your codebase on Github under a free license does not make your platform usable by people who care about freedom.It also means that your source code needs to be up to date with the current version that your running and it must be free of binary blobs and nonfree dependencies and libraries.For example Signal is not available in Fdroid because it does not comply with many of the Fdroid inclusion guidelines (which are already quite lax in my opinion).
(DIR) Post #Ar2YIFeYwKGwkpr0Rk by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T10:57:45.267Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world From Matrix to Facebook Messenger and Telegram.Facebook Messenger and Telegram are not alternatives to XMPP, they are not decentralized.Matrix is the only one that I consider an actual alternative to XMPP.Personally I think as of right now the technical implementations of XMPP are much better so I still consider it the better option. Although I use both Matrix and XMPP.
(DIR) Post #Ar2YLwUC932ySzlSa0 by feliks@chaos.social
2025-02-12T10:58:25Z
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@sun @pylapp @SuperDicq @newt this passage from a GH issue captures it i believe:> It is unlikely that we will ever federate with any servers outside of our control again, it makes changes really difficult.would be interested in the essay and video though if you find it
(DIR) Post #Ar2YPpN6XPZbYnIhUG by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T10:58:51.597376Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun @adiz >Facebook Messenger and Telegram are not alternatives to XMPP, they are not decentralized.They aren't alternative because I can talk to girls on Telegram and I can't talk to girls on XMPP. Therefore, if I want to avoid women as much as possible, XMPP is the only option.
(DIR) Post #Ar2Ym1I2uF7ctZW5dg by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T11:03:08.337Z
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@sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa @pylapp@framapiaf.org I consider software good if it improves aspects of people's and does not actively make them worse so I consider Fediverse good.
(DIR) Post #Ar2ZZPbPInzoUK7mvg by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T11:12:01.956Z
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@sun@shitposter.world @pylapp@framapiaf.org I mean I gotta say that maybe it's easier to coordinate things on XMPP is because the technology is just kinda normiecore and used by actual organizations and such. And they all just kind want the same thing?On the contrary the entire Fediverse userbase consists entirely of us, the misfits and rejects of centralized social media.The real reason why we can't coordinate anything is because the Fediverse userbase is probably the most diverse group of users I've ever seen share a single protocol.We can't agree on anything, but that's probably good. So something will only really get implemented if it really is a good idea.
(DIR) Post #Ar2fjozcM5ppr8nOng by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T12:21:08.071Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa I talk to girls on XMPP, but I don't understand why gender matters here.
(DIR) Post #Ar2ftLM1PEK8pTocdM by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T12:22:38.737648Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun @adiz of course you don't.
(DIR) Post #Ar2g9mkjJ4YmRCDF7Q by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T12:25:51.684Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa I don't know why you see pride in the fact that you seek approval from uninteresting normie women.
(DIR) Post #Ar2gKfsBE4aoHltDwe by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T12:27:33.798427Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun @adiz who said anything about approval? Then again, lacking XMPP account doesn't make them uninteresting. Just as most people with XMPP accounts are boring as hell.
(DIR) Post #Ar2h8iZhSEYh926mRc by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T12:36:49.863Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa Maybe I'm a little narrow minded but I do really think that most people who have never in their life consciously had a single thought about topics such as digital rights, privacy or software freedom to be very uninteresting usually.
(DIR) Post #Ar2hUotadOUz7Rx0eO by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T12:40:40.667463Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun @adiz you are indeed narrow-minded. For most people. messaging services are just another convenience, like phones or tap water. They don't think about it. You don't think about it either, at least I don't remember you ever writing about moving to the woods and drilling your own water well because you don't trust your municipal water company or are afraid of fluoride (you should be btw).Digital rights are important, but so are many other things, and most humans have only so much brain capacity. It's just outside of their areas of interest.
(DIR) Post #Ar2iwlUwxXXqe2Ja1g by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T12:57:05.945Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa because you don't trust your municipal water company or are afraid of fluoride (you should be btw).I do trust my municipal water and I am not afraid of fluoride but that's because I live in the Netherlands.Our entire water system is fully democratized and our regional water boards have their own elections.I'm not joking but we actually have 4 types of political elections in the Netherlands and they are: national, provincial, municipal and water board. I don't trust the tap water whenever I'm abroad so I don't drink it there tho.
(DIR) Post #Ar2jUdlCEeK8UY4Cu0 by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T13:02:55.416176Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun @adiz And you've just described why people trust Telegram or whatever. Because they have no reason not to.I could point out legitimate concerns about water quality (and gay frogs), but you'll dismiss me as a conspiracy theorist (which I sincerely consider a compliment). Literally the very same line of reasoning works when it comes to messaging services and most people. They would dismiss you as a conspiracy theorist or a schizo. Doesn't mean you're wrong and they're right or vice versa. In fact, it doesn't mean anything other than these things are outside of their areas of interest.P.S. Tap water in the Netherlands sucks. I preferred bottled water when I lived there.
(DIR) Post #Ar2lJcAtzOXYIVxdMu by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T13:23:38.462Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa Also the reason why I'm so into this shit is because I am genuinely convinced that like 90% of issues in the modern world are caused by something related to digital rights.I firmly believe that if a government can keep secrets, there is no real democracy.And if tech companies stopped having control over social media with their recommendation algorithms the current culture war would just simply go away. You know, because people might actually just be able to get along if they are not getting gaslit by the constant stream of ragebait cherrypicked bullshit into their doom rectangle 24 hours a day.And currently almost all of the world's biggest corporations are tech companies. The only real power tech companies have over us is a monopoly enforced by copyright and patent law. As soon as we take this away from them they will be out of business within months, because now we can just take their monopoly away and run it ourselves, decentralized.And if we actually shared innovations (like software code!) there would be little reason for countries to start doing protectionism, which in turn reduces international conflicts, promotes globalization and that reduces the chances of all out war.Just simply name any current political issue and I can probably explain to you why it is caused by proprietary software.
(DIR) Post #Ar2lrJOyIG2dv5brpA by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T13:29:37.290762Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @sun @adiz you are indeed very narrowly minded. Lots of things have nothing to do with software at all, much less proprietary software.As @urchin pointed out, warfare is caused by the strife for power and software is completely irrelevant. Software is just a tool.
(DIR) Post #Ar2nSAI9E9KOKmYSbg by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T13:47:37.025Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa @urchin@shrine.moe Software is just a tool.That is correct and if we take away the potential of abuse in their tools they will have no power and we will be free.
(DIR) Post #Ar2nZu7nDgFiVfOy6i by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T13:48:36.897356Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @urchin @sun @adiz can you stop paying taxes by using XMPP or other completely 100% :rms:-approved stuff? Serious question.
(DIR) Post #Ar2oH84FFxp8CkLyee by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T13:56:49.440Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @urchin@shrine.moe @sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa I don't think tax evasion is a good thing and neither does :rms1:But I have heard that is very easy to evade taxes using cryptocurrencies if that is your interest.
(DIR) Post #Ar2oLVbFhoFYLasfE8 by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T13:57:40.581692Z
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@SuperDicq @newt @pylapp @urchin @adiz only monero and zcash and a handful of other cryptocurrencies are actually private, the rest of them are completely public
(DIR) Post #Ar2oaS3d9rA9hlHP1M by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T14:00:10.414728Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @urchin @sun @adiz >I don't think tax evasion is a good thing and neither does :rms1:I don't care what you think about this. Just yes or no would be enough. The ability to gather taxes is backed by violence and only by violence, no information control is needed here. You pay taxes not because you think it's a good idea, but because otherwise you will be a subject to violence from the state. Everything else is just an ex post facto justification.>But I have heard that is very easy to evade taxes using cryptocurrencies if that is your interest.That's basically no, with lots of caveats. I can't buy cofe with crypto in the cofe place with cute baristas and avoid paying VAT in the process. Why? Because if the place doesn't pay VAT, tax authorities will come and close it down. Crypto won't save them.
(DIR) Post #Ar2ofD38Nv38beJfhg by pwm@lab.nyanide.com
2025-02-12T14:01:14.169832Z
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@sun @pylapp @SuperDicq do you happen to have your thoughts on this written out somewhere? I think it would be worth a read
(DIR) Post #Ar2okHdqjqzYIRuQWe by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T14:02:09.297660Z
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@pwm @pylapp @SuperDicq no, I have a private telegram chat with a few people where this has been discussed in detail for months. activitypub pretends to be a looot better than it actually is
(DIR) Post #Ar2ovJtQhzsKSqSWm0 by pwm@lab.nyanide.com
2025-02-12T14:04:08.741460Z
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@sun @pylapp @SuperDicq I would encourage you to write it up, for posterity's sake if nothing else. Plus I'm personally curious.
(DIR) Post #Ar2p55pppZ4flBRDIu by pwm@lab.nyanide.com
2025-02-12T14:05:55.467429Z
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@sun @SuperDicq @pylapp in general I think protocol evangelists are always pretending. You get them AP, nostr, etc etc. You might as well devote yourself to spreading the good word of the hammer and how it is the one true tool to rule all others
(DIR) Post #Ar2p9zScxR8rREuyKu by sun@shitposter.world
2025-02-12T14:06:48.392111Z
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@pwm @pylapp @SuperDicq I will write it down but I can't share it at this time. I need to interact with some of these people in different contexts
(DIR) Post #Ar2pizphZ8yWjCP2Zc by pwm@lab.nyanide.com
2025-02-12T14:13:07.967961Z
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@sun @pylapp @SuperDicq those god damn motherfucking politicking sons of so-and-so's with sand in their you know what's. I love politics
(DIR) Post #Ar36KisedojMQDnNJ2 by k1tteh@uwu.social
2025-02-12T17:11:16Z
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@newt @pylapp @SuperDicq @adiz @sun @urchin jfc can you two just kiss already???
(DIR) Post #Ar36Kk0USAanuoT99s by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T17:18:56.274175Z
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@k1tteh @pylapp @SuperDicq @adiz @sun @urchin sorry, too busy kissing your mom
(DIR) Post #Ar3OCP4aCSLjqdYcW8 by joey@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T20:39:24.874658Z
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@SuperDicq @newt @pylapp @sun @adiz Governments kept secrets long before digital technology existed.
(DIR) Post #Ar3Ozx0Cq8B3Gf8VCC by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T20:46:08.042Z
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@joey@stereophonic.space @newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa Yes, even though this is a problem that existed for computers existed this still falls under the category of "freedom of information". It's just that if you add digital technology to anything related to freedom of information, censorship, freedom of expression, privacy rights, free press, etc. these issues become exponentially worse if abused by the state.
(DIR) Post #Ar3RBtOkGXZnTNR6Xo by joey@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T21:12:56.154303Z
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@SuperDicq @newt @pylapp @sun So obviously digital technology makes it easier for authoritarian powers to surveil and oppress people. You could argue that we'd all be better off without digital systems. Example that comes to mind is facial recognition, number plate recognition, RFID and the internet. I know life was pretty damn good before the latter existed.
(DIR) Post #Ar3RRnEuvlZx0QQB7I by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T21:15:39.878696Z
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@joey @SuperDicq @pylapp @sun you'd think internet is to blame, but it's instantaneous long-range communication in general that screwed us massively. It is the sole reason why WW1 and WW2 were so bloody, compared to anything before them. Without instant communications, it's impossible to command massive armies or any vast hierarchies of millions whatsoever.Basically, we should RETVRN TO MONKE 🐵
(DIR) Post #Ar3Ra4xevTBSHkIeZs by joey@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T21:17:18.525899Z
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@newt @SuperDicq @pylapp @sun Hmmm.. no long range comms. No long haul aircraft. No ocean going sea vessels. Sounds like the way nature intended life to be.
(DIR) Post #Ar3Tz0VwnRhLdoLuNs by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T21:44:01.841020Z
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@joey @SuperDicq @pylapp @sun i still find it fascinating that countries like Russia managed to stretch to vastly without comms. Imagine when you rule a piece of land like that and your orders take months to reach the far reaches of your domain.A part of me wants a Civilisation-style game that accounts for this lag and other historical peculiarities. The far reach of your country is invaded and you only learn about this after two months. Fog of war? How about lag of war?
(DIR) Post #Ar3V8X9ytEKJRzBUNU by joey@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T21:57:08.943011Z
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@newt @SuperDicq @pylapp @sun >Even though field telephones were widely used for the first time during World War I (1914–18), they relied on copper wire lines, which were often damaged or unreliable, or simply unavailable as troops advanced. Radio technology existed, but was generally regarded as too insecure for frontline use. Most armies still made extensive use of runners throughout the war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runner_(messenger)Don't shoot the messenger haha.
(DIR) Post #Ar3VJyLs8E76yBCUqW by joey@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T21:59:13.097493Z
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@newt @SuperDicq @pylapp @sunReliance on tech is no good anyway. Only time I got lost in the forest one night was because my GPS was wrong. Had to pull out my old faithful orienteering compass to save my ass.
(DIR) Post #Ar3ZHOC3znLg43dW4G by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T22:43:29.512Z
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@joey@stereophonic.space @newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @sun@shitposter.world You don't have to ban technology to avoid abuse using technology. I mean I get the argument but I personally the cat is already out of the bag and you just can't go back on that.
(DIR) Post #Ar3ZaJoaV28lzDgLT6 by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T22:46:46.267702Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @joey @sun no, you can't. If abusing something gives an advantage, then it will be abused. Basically, it's an arms race. And you're losing it. Badly.
(DIR) Post #Ar3ZiOOLMppiUuFxcO by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T22:48:25.699Z
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@newt@stereophonic.space @pylapp@framapiaf.org @joey@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world It's in a lot of cases possible to design decentralized and free digital systems that can not be abused however.
(DIR) Post #Ar3aCwOrUPd4ez47NY by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T22:53:46.894445Z
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@SuperDicq @pylapp @joey @sun no, it's not. You should learn from Lmao Zedong, who - despite having quite a smol Ze Dong - managed take over a country of several hundred million and kill upwards of 50 million of them. All while having sex with virgins with no end until his very death.In other words, what good is your free decentralised digital system if you will face the wall for using it?
(DIR) Post #Ar3anMZDg7ZwEzHH0q by joey@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T23:00:33.421405Z
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@SuperDicq @newt @pylapp @sun I never mentioned banning. Not sure where you got that from.
(DIR) Post #Ar3bqzvDujuN7XrnjE by Haijo7@snac.haijo.eu
2025-02-12T23:11:19Z
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@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyohttps://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Androidhttps://github.com/signalapp/libsignalhttps://github.com/signalapp/Signal-ServerAGPL-3.0Yes, it is not part of the fediverse and it relies on github (both through the repo, and through rust (rust's package manager can only manage libraries hosted on github)).The application itself is free software.
(DIR) Post #Ar3d6UUQe6WQDtHkZ6 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-12T23:26:20.769Z
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@Haijo7@snac.haijo.eu The license does not matter if your software requires nonfree depedencies. It is still nonfree
(DIR) Post #Ar3egQKnfkhDiNTnYu by Aeder@stereophonic.space
2025-02-12T23:44:06.038790Z
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@sun @pylapp @SuperDicq Whenever I hear about the issues that AP has, I keep thinking that the only solution is to make AP2 with all the features that have proven necessary or widely wanted as part of the base spec, and then leave intact the ability to extend AP2 until the cycle repeats.
(DIR) Post #Ar4O96mDximJOQMJnc by Haijo7@snac.haijo.eu
2025-02-13T08:12:50Z
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@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo sort of. The license does allow people to make forks or use the code in other projects.I was not aware that it uses proprietary libraries. I just installed a foss fork called molly (which gets rid of these libraries, without losing compatibility).Despite the fact signal relies on proprietary libraries (which seem to be present to interface with google play services, which is only possible if you've got those installed), I still think it is a good substitute for big tech messaging platforms. They are very much against sharing metadata. The fellow in charge used the following situation as an example; someone makes calls to a specific number regularly. One day they make a several hours long phone call to a hospital. Then they never call the number from before again.The carrier doesn't know what was said during the calls (probably), but the metadata already tells the whole story.I think this is an excellent example, so I thought it was worth sharing.Not sure if this is true, but someone told me that signal is holding back cross platform messaging because of privacy concerns in the proposed concepts for the protocol to be used. (iirc the person who told me this said the protocol is being designed by the EU government, but I'm really not sure. I'll have to look into that sometime)
(DIR) Post #Ar4Rc7vj3MQREKKduq by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-02-13T08:52:18.715Z
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@Haijo7@snac.haijo.eu Yes, I can agree that Molly is free software. But Signal is not. I do not care what bullshit "privacy concern" reason Signal makes up to not support federation of the protocol. There are many other chat protocols that stay private and federate at the same time such as XMPP and Matrix. If Signal can not make it work with their protocol in field we call that a "skill issue".In my book Signal is on exactly the same tier as Telegram: * Only usable in a freedom respecting way if you fork the official client. * Probably in reality not really that private, depends on centralized "just trust us bro" servers. * At least normies want to use it?