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(DIR) Post #AqsIAM5TpVpRmOytPs by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T12:09:56Z
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I need to find a good excuse to tell my students about all of the secret hidden rivers of NYC.You see, before the city was developed there were streams and brooks all over the place. Why do they call it BROOKlyn? Ever think about that?Anyways, when people drained the intertidal swamps and wetlands to pack in more buildings and people they buried the streams.People are often surprised that we can't simply ...delete a stream. But water is powerful and water will flow, you must give it space.
(DIR) Post #AqsIMtVZOjNUuKACSO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T12:12:12Z
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All those rivers are still flowing, only underground in tunnels. They still feed the trees, though not as well. It would be possible to daylight portions of the brooks again in parks, they could surface for a bit then go back under. I happen to like this idea very much. If you look for the signs you can find one near where you live. The secret underground rivers that nobody thinks about except for the engineers who get nightmares from their power. They can tear your buildings down!
(DIR) Post #AqsIQUtiqCCTjoB8Yy by drakenblackknight@mastodon.online
2025-02-07T12:12:49Z
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@futurebird Canal St had an actual canal, and the Hutchinson River is still flowing.
(DIR) Post #AqsIb9hryATRCSiVMG by mel1@med-mastodon.com
2025-02-07T12:14:44Z
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@futurebird so they are just still flowing underneath the infrastructure?
(DIR) Post #AqsIj79DMqHNa2InvU by rayhindle@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T12:16:11Z
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@futurebird Underground Rivers Of New York City: Secrets Beneath The StreetsHave you seen this?https://www.touristsecrets.com/travel-guide/weird-amazing/underground-rivers-of-new-york-city-secrets-beneath-the-streets/
(DIR) Post #AqsIktRRIUDXePfubY by pbloem@sigmoid.social
2025-02-07T12:16:30Z
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@futurebird London has these too. One of them flows through a metro station, above the trains.https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/28/london-underground-station-secret-river-running-right-20185034/
(DIR) Post #AqsIwplCoFivi0c99U by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T12:18:42Z
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The abundance of rivers is the very thing that drew so many people to this location. It's what makes this a special place. It seems a shame to bury them and ignore them.
(DIR) Post #AqsJ7hkSwDbw2tS4Zc by CatDragon@mastodon.world
2025-02-07T12:20:37Z
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@futurebird Providence, RI brought part of theirs back above ground and it’s beautiful .
(DIR) Post #AqsJF7XxQ2vg5J8ZwO by llewelly@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T12:21:59Z
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@futurebird the city I live in is tiny compared to NYC (especially in terms of population), and in a "semi-arid" climate, and yet, there are several places I can walk to where streams have been completely built over. (Occasionally this becomes a problem.)
(DIR) Post #AqsJG7YSsGAsOpqrL6 by NYSloth@mastodon.online
2025-02-07T12:22:10Z
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@futurebird GroundWork USA daylighted parts of the Saw Mill River in Yonkers. Perhaps you could invite someone from that volunteer organization to come speak with your students.
(DIR) Post #AqsJKzWSAM0aw3EW8G by Patrickoldhiker@ohai.social
2025-02-07T12:23:01Z
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@futurebird There is such a daylighting project coming in the #Bronx, mostly to keep the Major Deegan Expressway from becoming the brook in heavy rain. It's now scheduled to begin construction in 2026. https://vancortlandt.org/programs-overview/daylighting-tibbetts-brook/
(DIR) Post #AqsL1oYGvk3VJh4Ekq by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T12:42:00Z
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Also, as we discover from time to time, NYC will simply fill up with water if it rains too quickly. This summer there were flash floods as all the hidden rivers spilled over their walls and tunnels making themselves known to a city determined to ignore them. The ability to manage and work with (not against) water is the foundation of "having a civilization" ... in NYC we have riches beyond the wildest dreams of other cities. We have so much fresh water and we have the sea!
(DIR) Post #AqsLPzwuCtRJcB7ZlQ by phpete@mastodon.coffee
2025-02-07T12:46:20Z
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@futurebirdOne of the very first things my girls would say as an imitation of me? #WaterAlwaysWinsIf they remember nothing else as adults, I'll be content of they hold on to that & act appropriately.
(DIR) Post #AqsLQxzoxBQFqawkdc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T12:46:24Z
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Thinking about all the buried rivers and brooks and how they cannot be contained forever, how they can be covered but never erased or deleted is a great comfort to me lately. The water will flow.
(DIR) Post #AqsLoHd87YSZOxS31c by venite@mastodon.nl
2025-02-07T12:50:42Z
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@futurebird it’s called Brooklyn after the Dutch town Breukelen, like Harlem was named for Haarlem and Flushing for Vlissingen, but the secret rivers are still marvellous
(DIR) Post #AqsM9RLRCHsJc1GRbE by KnittingMittens@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T12:54:32Z
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@futurebird I've noticed looking at my area on Google Maps, that there are a lot of blue streams that have been covered up with housing. It makes me sad that we've built over these streams instead of around them. Just another example of our history of trying to tame nature rather than live with it.
(DIR) Post #AqsMPBTJyo6T16SWOG by semnosao@ursal.zone
2025-02-07T12:57:22Z
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@futurebird seol was recently very successful with thathttps://inhabitat.com/how-the-cheonggyecheon-river-urban-design-restored-the-green-heart-of-seoul
(DIR) Post #AqsMVf5olMAEccYQZE by albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz
2025-02-07T12:58:32Z
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@futurebird Once upon a time I wrote a short #scifi story about this – sort of. In Spanish (2002): https://albert.rierol.net/tell/20020908_Asfaltia.html
(DIR) Post #AqsNDmlBcLLP8vwaGG by th@social.v.st
2025-02-07T13:06:26Z
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@futurebird because they moved to New Amsterdam from Breukelen?
(DIR) Post #AqsNySVIkOCZvillI0 by gregorykohn@ecoevo.social
2025-02-07T13:09:25Z
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@rlmcneary2 @futurebird You can still get a small slice of what pre-city manhattan would look like on south brother island today.
(DIR) Post #AqsNyTcQbNUrO76y2K by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T13:14:57Z
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@gregorykohn @rlmcneary2 I kayaked there some years back. It's one of my favorite places in the city.And there is a great deal of archeology to be done there... the island is littered with artifacts from the city spanning back centuries. I found a drawer pull on one of the beaches and brought it home, cleaned it off and now it's in my kitchen being a draw pull again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQbCT3DA1PY
(DIR) Post #AqsO0DTdaUdXu7pTKS by trinsec@trinsec.org
2025-02-07T13:09:44.002Z
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@futurebird@sauropods.win Ooh, this reminds me of a Dutch documentary I've watched quite a few years ago. One of the Dutch cities also had a hidden river below. They managed to have a whole full blown documentary just about that one river that used to run at the city's surface but got moved lower, and still keep it interesting! 😆
(DIR) Post #AqsO4E6BDapAzTlkps by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T13:16:03Z
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@gregorykohn @rlmcneary2 Oh wait... You said *south* brother island. That is the smaller one. It's full of birds so we didn't dock as we didn't want to disturb their nesting.
(DIR) Post #AqsODPmj8dwpqD3GeO by adriano@lile.cl
2025-02-07T13:17:06Z
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@trinsec @futurebird Buenos Aires has the Maldonado stream, tubed long ago, running under a major avenue. There's a legend behind the name, too, it's very poetic.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maldonado_Stream
(DIR) Post #AqsONFox2WB7pkmeo4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T13:19:29Z
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Based on the book I'm reading about plants, it turns out that many of the trees and plants can probably still *hear* these hidden rivers flowing, and the roots seek the sound of the water. Sometimes they pry open the pipes causing all sorts of trouble.
(DIR) Post #AqsOPQU2MofDTz2MS0 by sewblue@sfba.social
2025-02-07T13:19:35Z
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@futurebird There is a stream next door to my Aunt's place in Oakland, California. It forms a pretty waterfall if there is enough rain, and then just disappears. The stream probably runs under the street in front of her house.It is likely seasonal, as I don't remember it when I lived here for a summer a million years ago.I happened to take a picture yesterday.
(DIR) Post #AqsOS6jMGRYN5ZTwNU by gdupont@framapiaf.org
2025-02-07T13:20:16Z
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@futurebird @gregorykohn @rlmcneary2 wait what? There is complete abandonned island just near new york and no one is trying to live there ?
(DIR) Post #AqsOTjc5BWkJyFr3Ym by louisffourie@c.im
2025-02-07T13:20:39Z
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@futurebird What's the name of the book?
(DIR) Post #AqsOUUbKU94PhWrcPY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T13:20:44Z
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@gdupont @gregorykohn @rlmcneary2 Yes. And let's please keep it that way, thank you.
(DIR) Post #AqsOY3MPhtSANGaKLQ by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T13:21:24Z
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@louisffourie The Light Eaters!https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/196774338-the-light-eaters
(DIR) Post #AqsOZCvzb56GMAmF9s by Illuminatus@mstdn.social
2025-02-07T13:21:36Z
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@futurebird Madrid has so many hidden rivers, brooks, and streams… the city evolved from a small muslim citadel perched on a hill and if you know where to look, you can identify a lot of the streets these courses of water traversed towards the main river in the area, the Manzanares, which more or less delimits the west - south-west - south core of the city.
(DIR) Post #AqsOhz16iAQVnZM0em by davidnjoku@mastodon.world
2025-02-07T13:23:12Z
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@futurebird I remember a David Attenborough documentary about plants from a few years ago. They sped up plants' movements and it made everything they do seem intentional. Sped up, you can see how vines reach around "looking" for branches to climb, for instance.It revealed - or seemed to reveal - that plants think and act, and the only reason we don't realise it is that they operate on a different timescale from us.
(DIR) Post #AqsOnZXKMLmqVh5cum by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T13:24:15Z
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@gdupont @gregorykohn @rlmcneary2 We can fit tons more people into NYC without using any extra land for buildings. We are already very efficient at housing and this is just due to economic pressure, we aren't even really seriously trying to maximize human comfort while minimizing environmental impact. What would happen if we... you know, TRIED?
(DIR) Post #AqsOqQCtVFc2RZtJ8i by paulc@mstdn.social
2025-02-07T13:24:44Z
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@futurebird This is true in Arlington VA. I've seen maps of streams that used to exist. And people wonder why flooding is an increasing problem here.
(DIR) Post #AqsOwTdneGx8pcMadk by ritawho@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T13:25:48Z
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@futurebird Did this tour a few years ago #Porto #Portugal. https://www.porto.pt/en/news/underground_river_in_porto_a_different_museum_to_visit_in_town_soon
(DIR) Post #AqsOxdive9pwONJhdA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T13:25:54Z
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@jarjan @onepict That too.
(DIR) Post #AqsOyLAk6cdR95f1SC by mattmcirvin@mathstodon.xyz
2025-02-07T13:26:08Z
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@futurebird @gdupont @gregorykohn @rlmcneary2 Even in Manhattan, isn't there a huge amount of expensive housing just sitting empty because someone bought it as a theoretical second home or an investment? This seems to be a problem in many cities.
(DIR) Post #AqsP8foEEWUs2t3ar2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T13:28:04Z
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@mattmcirvin @gdupont @gregorykohn @rlmcneary2 There is more than there ought to be... but most places are sublet at least. The demand is so constrained and astronomical. Everyone wants to be close to everything and use our transit system. And so it makes so much sense that we don't really invest in our transit system, letting it hobble along on the verge of failing. Big brain move that one.
(DIR) Post #AqsPVLuCOuh2yYfDMW by pattykimura@beige.party
2025-02-07T13:32:07Z
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@futurebird From my own home landscaping experience, I learned Living water is incredibly powerful, and its urge to live can split boulders, eat through iron, and cleave the earth in two. You can nudge it to go where you'd like it, but unmanaged it will outlast all your puny efforts.Though not of the same origin, I think river and riven share an essence.
(DIR) Post #AqsPddSJ29n7itZCFM by Aaurora@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T13:33:35Z
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@futurebird That would be so beautiful, I had no idea but it makes so much sense.
(DIR) Post #AqsPebMMJOgXVpFIJ6 by Okanogen@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T13:33:49Z
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@futurebird I often talk with trees. Hold them and lean my head against them and listen, with my ears and mind and heart. They will speak to you, but not in words.
(DIR) Post #AqsQObPUSLnYzQe492 by Kirsty@theblower.au
2025-02-07T13:42:01Z
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@futurebird Melbourne, Australia has them too.
(DIR) Post #AqsQq37xVp4clvX67E by adef187@jorts.horse
2025-02-07T13:40:01Z
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@sewblue @futurebird A small stream that was on our property when we lived in Observatory Hill, on the north side of Pittsburgh. It came down the hill from Marshall Ave at Perrysville, and probably used to be above ground all the way down to East Street before they built the parkway north. I loved hearing it and it brought a ton of wildlife into the yard.
(DIR) Post #AqsQr8YApsqxsdJTmK by guyjantic@infosec.exchange
2025-02-07T13:47:03Z
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@futurebird Relevant: very bad quake in Mexico City in 1985 (the aftermath was still visible in 1988 when I went there). 400 years of dumping dirt into Lake Tenochtitlán didn't stop all the rivers and streams emptying into it. When the quake hit, the soil under much of the city behaved like a fluid instead of a solid, making the destruction and death much worse. One woman said it was like watching a sheet being fluffed, with waves rolling through the ground under the city, destroying things as they went.The water is still there if nobody has done the work to give it somewhere else to go.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Mexico_City_earthquake
(DIR) Post #AqsRRBdmp4LBtG81K4 by InkySchwartz@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T13:53:47Z
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@futurebird 1st: You can come to my geography class and explain it to them.2nd: There is an old stream I have tracked back through the USDA aerial survey in the late 1920's-30's. It starts as a spring that is/was used by several houses on the ridge above as part of their water supply, one house I know fills and old cistern from it. It then wanders downhill and goes into a storm drain.1/
(DIR) Post #AqsSywatN8gf1XR2Zc by cowman@nfld.me
2025-02-07T14:11:02Z
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@futurebird oh yah, there are a number of buried streams here also. Interestingly, many can be found on #OpenStreetMap.Here is a section of Kelly's Brook (St. Johns #Nfld / #YYT) for example. It was 'daylighted' through a park. The original source wetlands are now a field/park, and it runs through what used to be a dump. Some resurface as streams, others can be tracked by finding the water sampling stations. Pretty neat!
(DIR) Post #AqsTCPoE3wUlOh5yme by frank@f.reun.de
2025-02-07T13:00:23Z
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@phpete @futurebird Yeah, also in #Munich and for sure many other cities. Like 10 years or more ago, there was a more active discussion about reopening those brooks again, but it did not happen. I guess, cars win once again. 🤷 Didn't hear anything about it lately. I remember being in a pop-up club that was located in a weird underground basement where a big tube was passing through. That was nice, but sure violated fire protection: We had to enter descending a ladder! But there were DJs, Bars and light projections down there!
(DIR) Post #AqsTCQdH09KPx0ykLo by phpete@mastodon.coffee
2025-02-07T13:27:34Z
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@frankMy wife's uncle's place is an *old* townhouse in a small town in the Poconos (Pennsylvania, US).It's completely common there, but you'd never know it from outside - *under* the basement is a...mini canal(?) in which flows all the water from the surrounding mountains. They built these towns in valleys, with entire sections on top of where water wants to go.Interestingly, plenty of new owners seem to have no idea their house is in the path of a potential river. @futurebird
(DIR) Post #AqsTCRPU6ttQMXXFUu by InkySchwartz@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T13:46:49Z
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@phpete @frank @futurebird Hmmm. That might, emphasis on might, be an old mill race. Or a channalized stream from a spring.Are there any dammed streams within, say, 1000 ft of the house?I only ask because I live just south of the Poconos and there are old man made/modifed water features everywhere.#water #dam
(DIR) Post #AqsTCS9DMsTMeMvlmC by phpete@mastodon.coffee
2025-02-07T14:12:41Z
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@InkySchwartzSo the house is on Broadway in Jim Thorpe. To my limited knowledge(2 basements😉), all the old houses on the north side have these same...mini canals, and they run N-S (see attached) because the topography has everything drain to where there's now a road. It's quite steep on both sides of that road. Info on the underbellies of houses on the south side would be useful here, but I've never thought to go looking.@frank @futurebird
(DIR) Post #AqsTCUJvI2E7O9xLkG by christineburns@mastodon.green
2025-02-07T14:13:32Z
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@futurebird This is why, when the seas rise, you can't just build dykes or levies around your cities. The water will flow through the culverts and rise up in the streets.
(DIR) Post #AqsU3FHXvste6108fY by louisffourie@c.im
2025-02-07T14:23:05Z
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@futurebird Well, I got the audiobook!
(DIR) Post #AqsUK71PtfVdOtV1kW by derpoltergeist@col.social
2025-02-07T14:26:07Z
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@futurebird I have thought about it indeed, and it's because the Dutch named it after their town of Breukelen, whose name comes from the Old Dutch: "bruok (“marsh, marshland”) and lētha (“excavated or canalised watercourse”)."
(DIR) Post #AqsUYeor2HPgH8YjOi by StefanEJones@dice.camp
2025-02-07T14:28:40Z
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@futurebird My grandparent's restaurant (and sometimes apartment) was in a building at 305 6th avenue.There is a creek running underneath the lot. In the 60s (as I recall) the top two floors had to be shaved off because the foundation, compromised by the creek couldn't support them.To this day, this Greenwich Village lot only has a two story building. Last I knew it was a Popeye's.
(DIR) Post #AqsVW2dU866BE7Ydrk by janggolan@mastodon.cloud
2025-02-07T14:39:25Z
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@futurebird I've read all of these: Rivers of London (book series): Sarah Shaffi wrote for The Guardian: "The books have consistently featured on bestseller lists, with the most recent two novels —2022's Amongst Our Weapons and 2020's False Value —going straight to No 1 on the Sunday Times bestseller list...Aaronovitch’s work has been translated into 14 languages and sold in excess of five million copies worldwide, and has its own wiki, Follypedia." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_London_(book_series)
(DIR) Post #AqsViIFftadD8MGMGe by mhstoixeiwmenopip@kafeneio.social
2025-02-07T14:41:40Z
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@futurebird That's poetic as fuck ngl
(DIR) Post #AqsYQwQs4AMMOxuwNM by Gumiho@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T15:12:10Z
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@futurebird isnt it called Brooklyn, after Breukelen, when the city was still known as New Amsterdam?
(DIR) Post #AqsYTEHCh306K6UE1Q by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T15:12:39Z
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@Gumiho OK fine I will update the post OMG
(DIR) Post #AqsYYrpJ4geKQw7t8C by Gumiho@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T15:13:37Z
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@futurebird i was just asking...not critizicing....
(DIR) Post #AqsYgSPjRR3Hw0mc9w by burnitdown@beige.party
2025-02-07T15:14:59Z
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@futurebird i think any major city probably has some rivers flowing under it. there are also artificially dry lakes that come back in a flood.
(DIR) Post #AqsYlou1G0Y185VUSe by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T15:15:59Z
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@Gumiho I've gotten like 8 of the same exact comment, which is fair, since the name has an interesting history. I know you were just asking I just need to make the post more clear if I don't want to keep seeing this comment over and over.
(DIR) Post #AqsYxGa2gyRC9jcYtc by Gumiho@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T15:17:58Z
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@futurebird ah i see...
(DIR) Post #AqsZ0l0m0SABPBmxY8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T15:18:41Z
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@burnitdown People build cities because of the rivers and streams, then we pollute them and burry them and forget about them. But since NYC has gone to the trouble of fixing the way we do sewage there isn't a good reason to keep them hidden anymore. And it would further improve the water management and local environment.
(DIR) Post #Aqsa11ZeWjbkj9nJom by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
2025-02-07T15:29:51Z
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@futurebird I don’t know we could just blurt it out.
(DIR) Post #AqsaCzZzlglW15f4Mq by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2025-02-07T15:32:04Z
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@futurebird Here in the Twin Cities; there are not that many streams that have been buried.But there are plenty of spots where groundwater flows pretty easily along the interface between topsoil and bedrock.There is a junior high in Saint Paul called "Hidden River". Not coincidentally, it is along the path of a groundwater flow that comes out as a spring a mile downhill.The school building uses it for a geothermal heat pump now: https://sahanjournal.com/climate-environment/geothermal-st-paul-public-schools-renewable-energy/
(DIR) Post #AqsaEQWX4lsTs7j3pI by burnitdown@beige.party
2025-02-07T15:32:12Z
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@futurebird Ottawa is still figuring out how to not dump sewage into the river afaik.
(DIR) Post #AqscM6IeLrg9NE1FdQ by wendinoakland@beige.party
2025-02-07T15:56:04Z
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@futurebird Most obvious example of water’s power is the Grand Canyon, a ginormous gorge actually carved into rock by flowing water.
(DIR) Post #Aqscn08NNqYc4O2bCK by gregorykohn@ecoevo.social
2025-02-07T16:00:59Z
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@futurebird @rlmcneary2 Yeah it’s north brothers forgotten cousin, you can go there with the harbor herons project from bird alliance NYC (former Audubon). But poison ivy is rampant.
(DIR) Post #AqsdnSvsPapNLAynvE by naturepoker@genomic.social
2025-02-07T16:12:16Z
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@futurebird oh wow, lived here my whole life and didn't really think about it that way. Now I'm thinking what sort of microbial wonders might be present if we do a metagenomic screening down there.
(DIR) Post #Aqsdyi2MarA5N8NKIi by dougdugan@heads.social
2025-02-07T16:14:17Z
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@futurebird If you have not read this, it's really good: "Daylighting a Brook in the Bronx", from Broadcast/Pioneer Works.https://pioneerworks.org/broadcast/daylighting-bronx-emily-raboteau
(DIR) Post #AqsfAPpyBaf6M5ixSS by arikb@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-02-07T16:27:34Z
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@futurebird The name Brooklyn is part of the Dutch history of New York (previously New Amsterdam) and named after the Dutch city Breukelen (previous name Breuckelen). The "Breuk" part of the Dutch name actually means "marsh", and not a small stream. Even in some dialects of English it still means marsh.
(DIR) Post #AqsfyVMFvyQNxNi5Me by yoasif@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T16:36:41Z
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@futurebird I found one a while ago in Queens: https://pixelfed.social/i/web/post/736277440300527921
(DIR) Post #AqsfzTXKBwvgb5Llwm by angusm@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T16:36:45Z
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@futurebird If you don't already know it, you might enjoy U. A. Fanthorpe's beautiful poem "Rising Damp”. It's about the hidden rivers of London rather than New York, but her delight and wonder at the idea of secret rivers is much the same as yours.https://www.caughtbytheriver.net/2014/01/rising-damp-peterloo-poets/
(DIR) Post #AqshIKarlVOoJkYswi by MariaCalendula@mementomori.social
2025-02-07T16:51:26Z
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@futurebird "*officially named after Breukelen but WHY."Well, I think the Dutch that founded the Breuckelen suffered from homesickess...
(DIR) Post #AqshZIEvlmvtwMODoG by gregorykohn@ecoevo.social
2025-02-07T16:53:01Z
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@mattmcirvin @futurebird @gdupont @rlmcneary2 Yes and no. Sometimes it’s used as vacation rentals or they have caretakers living in them, but vacant lots are scarce. I participated in the squatting movement in alphabet city in the 90s-00s and if there were a lot of vacant buildings on thr island we would have mapped them. A lot has changed since that time though and I have not been living in the city.
(DIR) Post #AqshZJXOwbIlxw2UEq by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-02-07T16:54:33Z
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@gregorykohn @mattmcirvin @gdupont @rlmcneary2 I don't think there is much "squatting" anywhere these days. Even the Bronx is packed full and getting expensive. Buy into a coop if you can, it's the only way to try to live here for life IMO. I am NOT paying all that rent. NO.
(DIR) Post #AqshsCQpaWplQeyH4a by gregorykohn@ecoevo.social
2025-02-07T16:57:57Z
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@futurebird @mattmcirvin @gdupont @rlmcneary2 Yeah, most of the squats are now cooperatives that own the building-the umbrella house, c-squat. Kind of a nice success story in the otherwise bland financial vibe of broader Manhattan.
(DIR) Post #Aqsid2k3QtiUzEIdDE by clusterfcku@mastodon.social
2025-02-07T17:06:25Z
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@futurebird "Named after the Dutch town of Breukelen in the Netherlands" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breukelen " Also, yes Breukelen was in wetlands, but the Breuk part of it could refer to Dutch wetland or a chunk or piece, maybe a mound above floodplain where an estate and the village was established. Dutch: "Broek’ was moerassig land met bos van elzen en berken en ‘lede’ betekende ‘waterloop’. In dit drassige gebied lag een terp, een ‘brokel’. Hier ontstond het dorp dat later Breukelen werd genoemd."
(DIR) Post #Aqslqh88sdm9sOleFs by erikcats@dice.camp
2025-02-07T17:42:26Z
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@futurebird > BUT WHY17th C settlers from Utrecht took the name with them. The utterly unoriginal habit of naming a new place after the place one came from is well-attested. It would have been a lot more fun had those 17th c muppets come from Sexbierum.Anyway, the composite has its origins in * 'Brook-' < Breuk < Brūk < Brōk (marshy land) so has been a bit roundabout;* -lyn < (e)len < lede (drainage canal) so this is actually the waterway origin in the name.But I agree with reopening!
(DIR) Post #AqsqMLDyGGNH1Gq7SS by ahm42@ruhr.social
2025-02-07T18:31:09Z
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@futurebird Water always wins.
(DIR) Post #AqstigiPL4mBuDQJjE by Kathmandu@stranger.social
2025-02-07T19:10:41Z
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@futurebird Maybe you could use this article as a jumping-off point? It's about a buried creek in Vancouver, and how they built a surface stream on the same path because the rain is still a force of nature and still needs somewhere to go. The new rainway reduces runoff and flooding, helps restore the water table, and adds native-plant habitat.https://thetyee.ca/News/2024/11/05/Rainway-Vs-Atmospheric-River/