Post Aqkr0Q7VvK8WWSFd8i by mitch@podcastindex.social
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(DIR) Post #Aqkr0Ow8K9RGqrv1lI by mitch@podcastindex.social
2025-02-02T02:34:52Z
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@dave do you have any recommendations on how to handle categories in RSS feeds?It seems like most apps use the Apple category system, but I see in the Podcast Index repo a categories.json file with different categories than the Apple list.We can add additional categories than what Apple supports, but is there a concise list of just the differences between the PI and Apple list of categories? For our database schema, it'd be easier to just have 1 categories table than maintain different lists
(DIR) Post #Aqkr0Q7VvK8WWSFd8i by mitch@podcastindex.social
2025-02-02T02:40:04Z
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@dave more info:This is the db init sql where I'm prepopulating the db with categories. The inserts correspond just with Apple list.db init script:https://github.com/podverse/podverse-ops/blob/v5-develop/database/combined/init_database.sql#L94-L218apple list:https://podcasters.apple.com/support/1691-apple-podcasts-categories?utm_source=chatgpt.compodcast index list:https://github.com/Podcastindex-org/podcast-namespace/blob/main/categories.jsonDoes it make sense to merge these lists in our db schema? I'm unfamiliar with PI categories. Also, it looks like PI categories don't support subcategories like Apple does.
(DIR) Post #Aqkr0REHnd9DxkQYKm by mitch@podcastindex.social
2025-02-02T02:42:27Z
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@dave also, sorry i haven't been active for so long. i wasn't able to focus on podverse much in 2024, but so far 2025 has been different. hopefully it stays that way 🤞 we have a lot of great stuff in the works for Podverse 2
(DIR) Post #Aqkr0Ru7I6bm3TzxXE by StevenB@podcastindex.social
2025-02-03T06:07:36Z
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@mitch @dave Hey!!! It's Mitch. Good to hear from you again! Excited to see what you have in store with Podverse 2. We try to send as many people to Podverse as we can over on nostr.
(DIR) Post #Aqkr0Ska92ZkgCXrJQ by dave@podcastindex.social
2025-02-03T22:02:33Z
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@StevenB @mitch On categories, in the beginning I just broke all of the compound category names from Apple into single word names. So, "Fitness & Nutrition" just became two categories: "Fitness" and "Nutrition". The two things that never made sense to me was that Apple somehow controls the categories that podcasting uses, and the hierarchical nature of them. If you just have single word categories then you can mix and match a lot easier - "Tech" & "News" instead of News->Tech News.
(DIR) Post #AqlU6vexTCoAI2zNHE by mitch@podcastindex.social
2025-02-04T05:20:49Z
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@dave @StevenB agree it isn't ideal that Apple has been the de facto decider of categories. That said, I'm thinking of still using their system as the baseline for our own category system.I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a P2.0 spec I've missed about categories. I'm thinking of possibly logging the categories that we find in RSS feeds that aren't in PV's pre-populated list, and expanding that list over time. Pretty sure some podcasts use "cryptocurrency" as a category but Apple doesn't.
(DIR) Post #AqmAgSv00FCReO7TEW by mitch@podcastindex.social
2025-02-04T05:23:18Z
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@dave @StevenB we could also make categories open ended, save whatever we find in feeds...but then when we list all the categories on a page or in a drop down, all the erroneous variations would appear as well. Trying to make UX clean as can be in PV2.0.
(DIR) Post #AqmAgU4bi0TnETceqe by mikeneumann@podcastindex.social
2025-02-04T08:01:27Z
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@mitch @dave @StevenB I may be incorrect, but I think I recall Aleks had a proposal for an open tagging scene for this a few years ago.
(DIR) Post #AqmAgUrWm7bxgCVj6G by dave@podcastindex.social
2025-02-04T13:17:45Z
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@mikeneumann @mitch @StevenB Yes that’s what I’d like to aim for. A dynamic tagging system. It gets confusing using the term category since it can mean so many things. I’ll make the discussion more formal as soon as I get a minute.
(DIR) Post #AqmBqdKuDyIMoKeKlE by StevenB@podcastindex.social
2025-02-04T13:30:54Z
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@dave @mikeneumann @mitch I agree. itunes:category should remain the same as it always had so new podcasts will still work as expected in the itunes directory. I'm in favor of creating a new tag in the podcast namespace so we can more easily create/modify the documentation.
(DIR) Post #AqmvDPZw2KzYjwumrg by mikeneumann@podcastindex.social
2025-02-04T21:09:38Z
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@StevenB @dave @mitch This needs a dedicated topic over on github so that all the angst can flow. lol."Genre" was the term I couldn't remember at 2am this morning...https://github.com/wavlake/genre-listBut then they go and do this...https://wavlake.com/feed/music/be4cbba8-d172-4ea7-8546-1b08f6874aefJust sharing bits from another discussion.
(DIR) Post #AqmvDQXUSud9iemLh2 by dave@podcastindex.social
2025-02-04T21:59:13Z
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@mikeneumann @StevenB @mitch Definitely will need to unify things into one hell thread. There have been many discussions in different spots.