Post Aqe6JS6HiHFskO6sq0 by mattlehrer@definitely.social
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(DIR) Post #Aqe2zBZ9B8LHoQFqlc by interfluidity@zirk.us
2025-01-31T15:13:54Z
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Should people who openly bribe the President, even if they are “respected” lawyers or CEOs or whatnot, doing it because “it’s in the best interest of shareholders” be welcome in polite society? Should you serve them in your restaurant? Speak politely with them at conferences?
(DIR) Post #Aqe3PoMpXSU9gKBpHk by mattlehrer@definitely.social
2025-01-31T15:18:41Z
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@interfluidity Feels like a “don’t hate the player” situation in some ways and like 1930s Germany in others.
(DIR) Post #Aqe3lRno7Bra4K7o0m by ItsThatDeafGuy@beige.party
2025-01-31T15:22:34Z
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@interfluidity they're the people running all the payment systems, all the Web hosting, all the media, all the technology, all the energy, fuel and water provisions, all the comms, the groceries, the shipping, the steel, the transport ... it's impossible to boycott. Unless you/they too are a billionaire, I doubt you'd/we'd rub shoulders with them in public 🤷🏻♂️
(DIR) Post #Aqe49PfLi43KOPb28W by interfluidity@zirk.us
2025-01-31T15:26:58Z
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@ItsThatDeafGuy each of us individually have very little likelihood of rubbing shoulders. but all of us collectively run the restaurants they patronize. we caddy their golf games. if many of us collectively choose to shun and express disgust towards them, they will experience that.we can’t boycott everything, no. but we can condition our purchases. i can’t never buy amazon, but i avoid it. online you and i both obviously seek alternatives.we can impose costs. we’re not powerless.
(DIR) Post #Aqe4gBTvT2IHxPsbRY by interfluidity@zirk.us
2025-01-31T15:32:53Z
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@mattlehrer how does one encourage redefining the game if you don’t alter the incentives on the players?
(DIR) Post #Aqe6JS6HiHFskO6sq0 by mattlehrer@definitely.social
2025-01-31T15:51:08Z
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@interfluidity @mattlehrer I haven’t read this yet but it might have ideas https://mastodon.social/@jasonkoebler/113913633096259444
(DIR) Post #Aqe8rkV60YPPZJCH2G by marick@mstdn.social
2025-01-31T16:19:46Z
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@interfluidity Well, yes, obviously. But I can't think of any examples where the hoi polloi "cut"¹ the venal in numbers large enough to have an effect. There was snobbery directed downward toward mercantile nouveau riche, but the main result seems to have been strategic marriages. ¹ https://uncommon-courtesy.com/2014/10/01/the-cut-direct-the-fiercest-etiquette-punishment/
(DIR) Post #AqeO5yCpLaQZRQtJE8 by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2025-01-31T19:10:24Z
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@interfluidity @ItsThatDeafGuy Lately, i get a lot of movie reference pings. Right now i am getting "fight club". Please don't focus on the sexist vibe of that movie, i know and i dislike. It's the "if we stop bowing down" part i mean.
(DIR) Post #AqeOWD8USah3H8NJqq by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2025-01-31T19:15:09Z
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@interfluidity Wrong frame, i think. We should speak politely to all that try to coexist. Someone might be a president or not, someone might be respected or not, someone might have the interests of already rich people in mind or not, all those things do not tell me if that person is trying to coexist with others. Some do the problematic things you talk about, but are trying and failing. No reason to be impolite. Attacking others, now that is a reason for defense of others, and what we do must be impolite to be effective.
(DIR) Post #AqerbujIhjyOb6fGU4 by Arianity@mastodon.social
2025-02-01T00:41:08Z
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@interfluidity Absolutely not.