Post AqFVdDWBHPbbDNkJIu by avocado_toast@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #AqFFwboFaffMmyQGS8 by stux@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T16:11:11Z
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People from outside the Fedi often say the Fedi is "hard" and takes "effort" and yes I totally understand and we're trying to make it easierBut they do forget the fact that they constantly need to create new accounts on whatever platform because it keeps getting banned, goes offline or a billionaire takes overIn the end, what is more effort? Constantly starting over or take a few minutes to try and understand this network a little bit
(DIR) Post #AqFG6H75OReFUqqGTQ by stux@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T16:12:59Z
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There are sooo many websites and articles dedicated to explaining how the #Fediverse works, just take a little timehttps://fediverse.infohttps://fediverse.partyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediversehttps://framatube.org/w/9dRFC6Ya11NCVeYKn8ZhiD
(DIR) Post #AqFG8WS9Kc5XeQlY6S by trebach@functional.cafe
2025-01-19T16:13:23Z
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@stux What takes longer? Learning a simple concept for each network as you need to migrate or one complicated concept that spans a large number of networks but stays the same regardless of which one you're on?
(DIR) Post #AqFGxWzT5pXs5Qfo24 by peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv
2025-01-19T16:22:33Z
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@stux it is is hard because they usually either can't reach attention they seek - thus they are not really in social networks to reach out - or their friends are not there.And both are fine reasons, I just prefer honesty instead of inventing another reason.I have heard all these "reasons" over Linux, OpenStreetMap, ecetera.
(DIR) Post #AqFHBYElFr7g0VVn16 by caos@metalhead.club
2025-01-19T16:24:10Z
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@ezmyrelda @stux I think it's even easier for people who start with the Fediverse without any social media experience.I started in 2020 and went through the settings calmly and curiously without any prior knowledge.It's probably more difficult with previous experience with commercial services, because then you expect certain terms that are different here.
(DIR) Post #AqFHBZNf0FprYOgPWi by stux@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T16:25:07Z
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@caos @ezmyrelda Guess so.. Social media corps kinda set a totally wrong example people now expect everywhere Look at the "verified" thing for example
(DIR) Post #AqFHHjgfb21FFyVzBw by mkoek@mastodon.nl
2025-01-19T16:26:00Z
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@stux it really isn’t hard, but thinking about ways to make it easier is always a good idea
(DIR) Post #AqFHKBvpYSShR0mEvQ by stux@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T16:26:21Z
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@mkoek I agree!
(DIR) Post #AqFHODd1BlxXr3tkJM by schmitzel76@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T16:26:58Z
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@stux people do not like algorithms, but complain that their timeline is empty after creating an account. It takes time and effort to set it up, but for some that is just too much work. But I'm glad I took that time, as are most people active on the fediverse. Some people apparently need a bit of spoon-feeding to get started, like they are used to on other networks.
(DIR) Post #AqFJwLzgn9SXYRuHmi by skoombidoombis@masto.ai
2025-01-19T16:55:37Z
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@stux I found the same people said those things about twitter b4 it was x. I think it has more to do with what they are looking for and how they’ve been coddled (if that’s the right word) or trained by algorithms.But then again I recognized the algorithm “withdrawal” in myself and learned early on to like & follow anything that interests me, not worry about followers ratios & blocks. I am a toddler wrt to tech literacy too but I manage :)
(DIR) Post #AqFKPjnHNq8Jla76Om by colo_lee@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T17:01:10Z
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@stux when I've asked friends what they meant when they said it's too hard, the real answer is no algorithm. So nothing comes to you on first visit. No targeting based on the demographics you used when you created an account. Just a blank screen. Not passive entertainment. That's what's too hard.
(DIR) Post #AqFLeUee3LwP6vfu9g by stux@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T17:15:11Z
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@thisismissem For sure!
(DIR) Post #AqFPG0j44jep9gK716 by rejzor@mastodon.social
2025-01-19T17:55:35Z
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@stux Migration between servers is a bit fiddly, but Mastodon is basically the same as Twitter otherwise.
(DIR) Post #AqFRtHtMNznnb3zlzM by registrartrek@glammr.us
2025-01-19T18:25:03Z
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@stux The problem is that people who are INSIDE the fediverse tend to explain it in a way that makes a lot of sense to them - because they are already inside. But they scare people even more. I tried to write an article to help people who want to transition from twitter recently, explaining how they could think of Mastodon as a city and servers as streets:https://world.museumsprojekte.de/registrar-trek-goes-mastodon/People from INSIDE of the fediverse immeditely pointed out that I should have said fediverse. I didn't do that. 1/2
(DIR) Post #AqFSCFmGTIswXbiiCO by vruz@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T18:28:28Z
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@stux There is no need to rebuke false claims made in bad faith.It just doesn't stand scrutiny.
(DIR) Post #AqFTgvxcIg8e0lDudc by hambach18@kanoa.de
2025-01-19T18:45:14Z
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@stux for me the Fediverse works almost like Facebook worked in 2010. I sign up at a server, I follow people, I see their posts. Additionally hashtags (topics) exist here that can be searched and followed.At that time I was new in my class. Classmates asked if I had Facebook. They created my first email address, made friend requests to 70 pupils in my year, they approved and we saw each others posts.In 2015 I deleted the account because of a significant terms of service update.
(DIR) Post #AqFVdDWBHPbbDNkJIu by avocado_toast@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T19:07:01Z
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@stux people are trying to learn Chinese to use red note...but yeah choosing a server is too much effort
(DIR) Post #AqFhYezOuiH8Px0UEK by AllysonShaw@wandering.shop
2025-01-19T21:20:27Z
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@stux There is a blind spot on the Fediverse-migration conversation and that’s with professional artists & writers who need a social media presence to get the word out about their work. They may have built up an audience on corporate platforms who will not follow them here. I am trying to convince my peers to try, but it’s a hard sell—not because it’s “difficult” but because there’s a lot at stake professionally. The ‘us and them’ language can also sound patronising to an ‘outsider’
(DIR) Post #AqFhiyxPWoxbF6zvyy by apropos
2025-01-19T21:22:39.243344Z
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@AllysonShaw @stux the perfect normie option has already been found with https://wordpress.com/support/enter-the-fediverse/
(DIR) Post #AqFhpmPeZChcMcRvxA by lina@eientei.org
2025-01-19T21:23:51.659110Z
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@apropos @stux @AllysonShaw enter the matrix
(DIR) Post #AqFhu0jvF2ajxLwovA by shansterable@c.im
2025-01-19T21:24:28Z
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@stux I think they also forget what it was like when they were trying to learn Twitter or Facebook or TikTok. Everything has a learning curve. Most will accept the challenge of learning a new platform if their friends or famous people are going there. I didn't use Twitter for years because back when tweets were limited to 140 characters (?) the abbreviations and initialisms looked like gibberish to me. Eventually, I got the hang of it. When I deleted my Twitter account and came here, I had to get the hang of Mastodon, too. Learning can be uncomfortable.
(DIR) Post #AqFi7ZVTI3jvY4eeem by BlueWaver22@genomic.social
2025-01-19T21:26:53Z
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@stux what is so hard about it people? You’re just follow people who u want to follow or hashtags you want to follow and the show up in your home feed- 🤔not difficult.
(DIR) Post #AqFjxWajTQqbWIS7E0 by AllysonShaw@wandering.shop
2025-01-19T21:47:33Z
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@apropos @stux what is a ‘normie option’?
(DIR) Post #AqFm3NivYaALf9CqG0 by fabiscafe@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T22:11:03Z
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@stux Yet all of the services still absolutely suck to work together in terms of UX :( following someone you found randomly on the internet is soo hard... share an article almost impossible without 6 years in university.
(DIR) Post #AqFmFh9DAHYHNcN6em by stringintinfinite@mstdn.social
2025-01-19T22:13:08Z
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@stux the fediverse is such an amazing concept because it means that you can choose the implementation and instance that you enjoy the most and other people can use what they want as well
(DIR) Post #AqFvuPKhCgnDaZEQ6a by brawnybunkbedbuddy@mastodon.world
2025-01-20T00:01:18Z
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@stux starting again is still an inconvenience - that includes fediverse.i'm already afraid that one day my instance will go offline. pretty sure the highest risk is that it may happen suddenly and i will be facing choices of starting anew or going elsewhere or gods forbid, returning to the place i'm not fond of anymore. in such scenario i'm not sure if i want to invest myself into another account.we should have an automatic export/backup feature - to avoid not being left with nothing.