Post ApoTLrH5lTttLDXR4q by LiquidParasyte@pawb.fun
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(DIR) Post #AnlC2c4IxNZ1iBQBBA by Gargron@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T08:20:37Z
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I think it's going to be more important than ever that #Mastodon and the #fediverse are not centrally operated out of the US like almost every other social media platform out there.
(DIR) Post #AnlC41zO4Nv0OPnUjQ by NeonPurpleStar@outerheaven.club
2024-11-06T08:22:19.787892Z
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@Gargron i have never been prouder to be in the fediverse
(DIR) Post #AnlEkoeLjyX1NkUD8C by ChrisWere@toot.wales
2024-11-06T08:52:27Z
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@Gargron It's just us and TikTok.
(DIR) Post #AnlM4H8YkVXkumqJQ8 by gimulnautti@mastodon.green
2024-11-06T08:23:18Z
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@Gargron 100% agree. US stands a good chance of becoming much more oligarchic under Trump, with politics starting to seep into how the company leaders operate. They won’t call it that obviously, because they’ll be oblivious to it. But politics it will be regardless.They’ll call it business, but it will be politics agreed to in back rooms instead of government corridors.
(DIR) Post #AnlM4IdRBBpxYqIUBk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-06T10:14:19Z
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@gimulnautti> US stands a good chance of becoming much more oligarchic under Trump, with politics starting to seep into how the company leaders operateBoth the GoP and the DataFarmers have been looking with approval at the close relationship between the CCP and TenCent, ByteDance, Weibo, Baidu etc. The GoP because they imagine themselves being in charge of the DataFarms, like the CCP are in charge of theirs. The DataFarmers because they know in the US it's the other way around ...@Gargron
(DIR) Post #AnlMAlXGdoAWvpUikC by Gargron@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T08:49:11Z
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@davey_cakes Improving the moderation experience by allowing admins to subscribe to shared blocklists is something we're planning for our next release, 4.4.
(DIR) Post #AnmbFCDFTjvRgtb7dg by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2024-11-07T00:39:10Z
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@Gargron Some form of managed, shared block lists. Ro's "the bad place" sounds like a good start. Then "whack a mole" won't be so futile and will accrue knowledge and save lots of people lots of time and allow for appeals etc.
(DIR) Post #AnmmU7qb5eQrzXKANs by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2024-11-07T02:44:58.108654Z
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@Gargron nigger
(DIR) Post #AnmmVL9J7UxjXHefSa by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2024-11-07T02:45:16.099971Z
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@Gargron More important than ever that you fix ur shit software
(DIR) Post #AnmnTQcrt0wDtf8NCC by poastoak@poa.st
2024-11-07T02:56:14.102684Z
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@gimulnautti @Gargron >100% agree. US stands a good chance of becoming much more oligarchic under Trump, with politics starting to seep into how the company leaders operate. Where have you been for the last two decades you gorilla retard nigger, what interests do you imagine yo be behind the DNC?
(DIR) Post #Anmp6Tm2DTp8uKbeme by AidanTTIerian@poa.st
2024-11-07T03:14:29.891538Z
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@Gargron wow, you are a retard
(DIR) Post #Anmp9AuenUwvHQvOuO by AidanTTIerian@poa.st
2024-11-07T03:14:59.197051Z
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@gimulnautti @Gargron faggot
(DIR) Post #Anmt5MfDZ6WSNq8qno by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2024-11-06T09:14:11Z
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@Gargron vKontakte? :-)
(DIR) Post #AnnsBeclnOaL1pOMfg by thibault@piaille.fr
2024-11-06T08:23:40Z
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@Gargron Yeah so please block out Threads
(DIR) Post #AnnsBfoVNFZAiVtFbM by vosje62@mastodon.nl
2024-11-06T08:31:51Z
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@thibault I think it is a good thing that that is done on server level so people have a choice.If Mastodon wants to play a serious role in the social media landscape things are a little bit more complicated as black&white. @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AnnsBgrNU3STxiF3ia by benroyce@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T10:39:35Z
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@vosje62 @thibault @Gargron i think it's pretty black and white that threads is the same company whose algos got us into this messi think anyone who sees working with meta as benign is naive, at bestand i think mastodon not blocking threads is deeply unseriousyou don't get "to play a serious role" serving the very same malice that mastodon was created to opposeyou get laughed at and then discarded
(DIR) Post #AnnsBhubZXdNE0l9O4 by Starfia@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T12:41:49Z
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@benroyce, @vosje62, @thibault –But you didn't respond to Paul's point. Wasn't the whole point of Mastodon to provide an *alternative* client for an *open* network that no individual or company needs permission to use, allowing for a plurality of values and policies across instances?By all means, pick an inherently walled technology if that's what you want, but asking Mastodon to be that seems like asking Mastodon not to be Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #AnnuLgbLV36PxqdZAW by benroyce@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T12:51:29Z
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@Starfia @vosje62 @thibaultI think at this point we're well past the "if you don't let plutocrats and nazis on your network you're a hypocrite" argument, wouldn't you agree?Freedom doesn't mean letting actors who oppose freedom free reign- a logically sound point. There is no contradictionBecause we're talking about a social contractI grant you as much rights as I grant myselfIf you use those rights to say someone doesn't deserve rights, you've voided the contract and I owe you nothing
(DIR) Post #AnnuLhHswt885mXXTU by Starfia@mastodon.social
2024-11-07T01:12:00Z
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@benroyce, @vosje62 –I'm not invoking that argument. Freedom to instantiate and manage a server does allow a platform to (ridiculously) oppose such freedom, but of course doesn't amount to the right not to be blocked by anyone or everyone.
(DIR) Post #AnnuLhqyqPCdqcxZB2 by benroyce@mastodon.social
2024-11-07T01:14:50Z
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@Starfia @vosje62 i'm confused, maybethis point: "ridiculously"what do you meando you agree that the only way social media will ever function is if you block bigotry and trolls?is that "opposing freedom" in your view?i could be completely wrong, i'm just not getting a good bead on what you're saying here perhaps
(DIR) Post #AnnuLiYwCyMg2xWfh2 by Starfia@mastodon.social
2024-11-07T01:19:55Z
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@benroyce, @vosje62 –We seemed to be talking about the act of criticizing or opposing the policy that permits such criticism to begin with (such as a person exercising their right to free speech by vocally opposing free speech).I agree that act is silly and obviously self-contradictory, but I don't think that means it should be an exception to protected speech. Free speech by nature permits all kinds of silly and ridiculous speech.
(DIR) Post #AnnuLj4UJfbNcoHrs0 by benroyce@mastodon.social
2024-11-07T01:24:12Z
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@Starfia @vosje62 what do you think of this:everyone is assumed the right to free speechbut if you use that speech to attack freedom, you've abrogated the righti'm not saying anything original nor profoundhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance"We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal"
(DIR) Post #AnnuLjpdUNJdz2LWMK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-07T15:47:49Z
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@benroyce > everyone is assumed the right to free speech> but if you use that speech to attack freedom, you've abrogated the rightThis is not a license granting permissions. It's an *inalienable* right.Imagine if I argued;Everyone has the freedom to grant or withdraw their labour.But if you use that labour to attack that freedom, you've abrogated the right, so you get sold as a slave.See the problem?@Starfia @vosje62
(DIR) Post #AnnuLkcCZoAEPf4J3g by benroyce@mastodon.social
2024-11-07T01:25:04Z
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@Starfia @vosje62 this isn't some weird moralistic hangupit's purely functionalif someone uses their freedom, to destroy freedom, and we let them, then freedom itself will perishtherefore you must deny freedom to those who oppose freedom. to protect freedomthere's no contradiction nor hypocrisy
(DIR) Post #AnnvAuanEzmg7qnyFM by benroyce@mastodon.social
2024-11-07T15:57:02Z
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@strypey @Starfia @vosje62 100% absolutely completely wrongevery right is a responsibilitywhen someone uses a right with irresponsible behaviort which results in harm, they lose that rightwhether explicitly, by crime and punishmentor implicitly, by pissing everyone else off and making them hate the irresponsible use of a right only to abuse othersyou need to learn thisthis is an ironclad rulesays me?no, say simple cause and effect
(DIR) Post #AnnvEbW66d607bMxDk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-07T15:57:06Z
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(1/2)@benroyce > if someone uses their freedom, to destroy freedom, and we let them, then freedom itself will perishI'm reminded of a video I saw of then-California Governor Arnie from Terminator. Who probably assumed he'd be free to give a political speech without getting egged on the way to the podium. But then he ...@Starfia @vosje62
(DIR) Post #AnnvHXM823GM5O6Ywy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-07T15:58:03Z
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(2/2)"... got an egg in the chest while walking out to give a speech during his special-election run to replace Gray Davis as governor of California in 2003."https://www.fastcompany.com/90321594/watch-arnold-schwarzeneggers-defense-of-political-eggingsDid he respond by egging the guy back, or otherwise visiting retribution on him?
(DIR) Post #AnnvKYHJ3lW9oaHqtc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-07T15:58:52Z
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(3/3)Nope."As the video shows, Schwarzenegger calmly shed his sport coat, and allowed security to wipe him off. He did not retaliate. Instead, he cracked some jokes (and in a longer clip, defends egging as a necessary part of free speech and vibrant political discourse): 'This guy owes me bacon now', he told reporters about the unidentified assailant."https://www.fastcompany.com/90321594/watch-arnold-schwarzeneggers-defense-of-political-eggings
(DIR) Post #Annvs9bXIoNj8Wlv7Y by benroyce@mastodon.social
2024-11-07T16:04:55Z
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@strypey i don't understand what point you're trying to makeare you confusing racism and misogyny, our real topic, with arnie getting egged?
(DIR) Post #ApoT85FT0vAWcsD4ym by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2025-01-06T18:01:53.700443Z
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@Gargron how many fediverse users are on a US-based instance vs. not-US-based *including the MITM-as-service layer*? With threads / AWS / cloudflare that number will be very high
(DIR) Post #ApoT9OJVcDWy2rix1c by vruz@mstdn.social
2024-11-06T08:25:17Z
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@Gargron It is central that you do not involve any American citizens in the board of directors too.
(DIR) Post #ApoT9Ou1QSjns6o6wC by Gargron@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T08:32:06Z
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@vruz The board of the 501c3 does not have any legal power over the German entity which holds all the assets. This is a concern I've already had in mind.
(DIR) Post #ApoT9oBbQEegHsE0JM by gbraad@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T08:26:56Z
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and/or hosted
(DIR) Post #ApoTAWmfbmRwbZuECG by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-11-06T08:27:02Z
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@Gargron You took money from Facebook - that ship has sailed.
(DIR) Post #ApoTAXxLFaa2ExuGTA by Gargron@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T08:30:39Z
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@ParadeGrotesque Where?
(DIR) Post #ApoTAhylz7fPKIeY5Y by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-11-06T09:13:12Z
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@Gargron Into your complete and utter irrelevance.Your instance accept anyone, even the worst spammers, and your little behind-the-scene backroom deals with FB and friends are fooling no one.You have my respect fro writing something usable and useful but it is way past its due-date.
(DIR) Post #ApoTAj4TvNpMiIKccq by Gargron@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T09:19:55Z
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@ParadeGrotesque No, where have I taken any money from Facebook? Care to back it up?
(DIR) Post #ApoTBB1G0xsxOP2RUG by mathiastck@mastodon.social
2024-11-08T21:16:32Z
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@Gargron @ParadeGrotesque I bet they are trying to read something from threads.net fediverse integration.
(DIR) Post #ApoTHjx535NPTJDLyy by Stefan_Urbat@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T13:02:13Z
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@Gargron yes, BlueSky seems doomed now to be honest
(DIR) Post #ApoTIHH59jz4otpIEy by aurochs@todon.eu
2024-11-06T12:46:12Z
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@Gargron But mastodon inc is registered in the USA, ain't it?
(DIR) Post #ApoTLrH5lTttLDXR4q by LiquidParasyte@pawb.fun
2024-11-06T16:22:13Z
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@Gargron please, please, please work with your peers in the Fediverse software space to prioritize nomadic identity migration and instance/domain migrationBeing able to move to a new instance while retaining the post history is going to be crucial in the coming times.
(DIR) Post #ApoTLwKSyMZR189hWy by LiquidParasyte@pawb.fun
2024-11-06T16:26:28Z
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@Gargron also of import is to prioritize moderation and safety features as well as e2ee messaging.It's a lot to ask for, but our community needs to actively work towards it yesterday.
(DIR) Post #ApoTO2Vcxyk4lONRya by hejsimon@mastodon.social
2024-11-07T21:12:34Z
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@Gargron is Germany really better these days? 🤔