Post Apo4nEWExAPIOfa2lc by garry@mstdn.social
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 (DIR) Post #ApmlrVvU5E1BFtkvFQ by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-01-05T22:22:16Z
       
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       I bitch a lot on AI and that mainly because I dislike generative AI that's been thrown out into the public like a massive alpha test and some people are using AI to generate more AI content to flood everythingBut AI can certainly be used in a LOT of cases where it can be of huge benefit, tasks, calculations or simulations that are just too hard or complicated for the human mindSo yeah, my relationship with AI is uh.. "difficult"
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmmFRmb8ig1M50mQa by wiredfire@mstdn.social
       2025-01-05T22:26:32Z
       
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       @stux I think it’s simple. Generative AI is awful and damaging. Pattern-matching number-crunching AI in fields of research is fantastic. One seeks to enrich, and save, lives. Another seeks to pillage lives. They are not the same.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmmFx2cvAuyIlkWDQ by DarthAstrius@mastodon.social
       2025-01-05T22:26:37Z
       
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       @stux I love using AI for hypothetical scientific calculations
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmmImIdJchfr5aGxc by galacticstone@mastodon.social
       2025-01-05T22:27:10Z
       
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       @stux - I have similar feelings. Like most major innovations, there are positive and negative aspects. Right now, it feels like the negative parts are dominant because capitalists are in a greed frenzy over it. The best uses of AI are probably quiet and behind the scenes : scientific research, gene sequencing, atmospheric modeling, chemical engineering, and quantum computing.Meanwhile, we consumers get this useless hallucinating snake oil crammed down our throats and it's stealing art jobs.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmmJhsPFIBeQXl98K by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-01-05T22:27:22Z
       
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       @wiredfire Exactly!I mean we need solution against HIV, cancer etcNot stupid fake pictures of politicians kissing each other..
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmmVSvodX4bYDxf9s by shalf@mamot.fr
       2025-01-05T22:29:28Z
       
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       @stux It tends to become an easy filter for me. Huge fans of generative chatbots based on LLMs educated by e.g. Kenyan workers exploited to a point I cannot believe how it is not the first and only thing discussed about this, tend to be so literally happy with capitalism that it is faster to put them aside 😬
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmmWY1TC2PFdA7cm0 by wiredfire@mstdn.social
       2025-01-05T22:29:42Z
       
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       @stux absolutely! I forget the number but I also heard that once an AI was thrown at radio telescope data it found more exotic-planets in a few months that human had been able to sift out of the data since we started looking. In these contexts is extremely powerful and THAT is where the billions of funding would make a real impact. Instead we have OpenAI saying “we want to scoop up all your data and expect to make a $1bn loss”. Crazy.
       
 (DIR) Post #Apmmbdr6vxsjAXhoUy by stux@mstdn.social
       2025-01-05T22:30:28Z
       
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       @alex Exactly! That would be amazing!I know a few ppl who could really use it that way instead of a screenreader that can suck from time to time
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmnrnfIKXq2BDRnsG by luxmendax@techhub.social
       2025-01-05T22:44:44Z
       
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       @stux generative AI always bothered me; why do we need technology to make videos, pictures, or audio of people doing/saying things that never happened? what good can come from this?
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmoB9nyErnULcjg00 by iveyline@mastodon.world
       2025-01-05T22:48:08Z
       
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       @stux Mine too. I support humans (in spite of their failings) way ahead of AI.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmoTGQkLPUG6nVUDA by fisherstudio@infosec.exchange
       2025-01-05T22:51:29Z
       
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       @stux @wiredfire That is the perfect nutshell.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApmpluEZC6emiwGMOu by Kierkegaanks@beige.party
       2025-01-05T23:05:53Z
       
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       @stux @wiredfire i think you get those with specialized expert systems rather than llm’s
       
 (DIR) Post #Apmps6hvjMJL9CxETw by drahardja@sfba.social
       2025-01-05T23:07:05Z
       
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       @stux Like all tools, AI can be used for good or evil. The tech itself is fascinating, and if nothing else, it’s very interesting to use these models to study the sum total of human expression on the Internet.But the *incentives* are aligned to use it to make life worse for almost everyone. From excessive resource consumption, to the relentless desire to displace human livelihood without a corresponding build-out of basic income, to the worsening of wealth inequality, to the destruction of a reliable common information base. These are all not just possibilities with AI but the *most profitable path*.
       
 (DIR) Post #Apn23hktWjLkgVdab2 by ligne_ab@mstdn.social
       2025-01-06T01:23:37Z
       
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       @stux I naively assume that AI is mostly bad when people use it for generating more bits of the output then the size of the input, e.g. some soft of upscaling, bloating things with random noise. And can be less bad when the output has equal or lesser size, when people don't pretend to create something from nothing.
       
 (DIR) Post #Apn8ax32I1hFOYMLb6 by 3TomatoesShort@disabled.social
       2025-01-06T02:36:55Z
       
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       @stuxI used to use a health tracking app which apparently* used AI to produce its outputs, and it was incredibly useful for me, I've never found another service that could produce the same insights. It got closed down :/Why can't we keep that kind of AI, and throw out the "ask this thing a question and receive a completely unreliable answer" variety 🙁*I say apparently as I suspect a lot of the products claiming to use AI just.. don't?
       
 (DIR) Post #ApnCyk5qVRVtz2H1yy by rhys@mastodon.rhys.wtf
       2025-01-06T03:25:57Z
       
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       @stux Exactly my position.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApnLDnwXH3Khttc0ae by liammcbride@mastodon.social
       2025-01-06T04:58:26Z
       
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       @stux My opinion on AI is that it shouldn't be used to "create art" it should strictly be an efficiency enhancer for use alongside humans at work for the sort of things that you mentioned, the moment its connected to social media or web video platforms it becomes an issue for me.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApnLK7fOr4XsoGbrIu by liammcbride@mastodon.social
       2025-01-06T04:59:35Z
       
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       @stux @wiredfire This is part of the reason I significantly reduced my usage of Facebook and other Meta platforms. It's weird and should not be normalised.
       
 (DIR) Post #Apo4nEWExAPIOfa2lc by garry@mstdn.social
       2025-01-06T13:28:57Z
       
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       @stux It can be less difficult if you know how it works, and that the I in AI isn't true, and that the A is true, but not in the way the AI companies use the term. It's artificial in that it's nothing at all like real intelligence.
       
 (DIR) Post #Apo52cqmlvgwCeWvEu by ptjnorth@mastodon.social
       2025-01-06T13:31:51Z
       
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       @stux I rejected it at first because of the same issues. I hate being used as an inadvertent Alpha tester.Now I cautiously use it for limited applications.