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 (DIR) Post #AoEheX2XDjCNfxvdmy by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T14:02:33.139232Z
       
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       graphic design student friend is looking for a laptop. she'd prefer an Apple device, but knows her 400 EUR budget means Windows. she needs an okay GPU, would prefer 14" with nicer display (OLED?), optionally convertible with pen. it can be 2nd hand, used, looks don't matter. USB-C to dock it maybe. purchasable in Germany. (inb4: no Linux since Adobe suite required)I suggested older Dell XPS. what do you think?thanksssss!! :mukiThanks: #techsupport #techadvice
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEhn3C1YmW9iIQfsu by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T14:04:28.097649Z
       
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       @kaia T400 and gnu/linux, get gimp :DDD
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEi30uXoOmBGlrh5M by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T14:06:21.251830Z
       
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       @mangeurdenuage I added the inb4 just for you and our GNU poster :bugcat_nod:
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEiFCsDA66zqSaVPM by m0xee@social.librem.one
       2024-11-20T14:09:33Z
       
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       @kaia I had no idea you could get such a machine for so little 😅The civilisation is nearing collapse indeed 👴
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEiGQmUwEhRGkV13Q by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T14:09:46.747887Z
       
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       @kaia There are no short nor long term benefit with proprietary software.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEiSUF1toNPTYaqjg by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T14:11:48.441981Z
       
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       @mangeurdenuage uni courses require it :ChenShrug:
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEiT6W1b4YABGpxVA by Legion495@mk.absturztau.be
       2024-11-20T14:11:28.726Z
       
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       @kaia@brotka.st Maybe you could snipe a Chromebook and install a proper OS.I would say anything with keyboard backlight is premium at that price.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEiWCqCXGlwfRkmbg by Yoruka@eientei.org
       2024-11-20T14:12:36.057367Z
       
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       @kaia >prefers appleTeach fren the ways of Gnu/Linux and piracy.But really I don't think you can get an OK GPU for 400 euros (depending on what you define as OK). I got a gtx 1650 laptop for 650 that originally costed 700-800 and its an ACER which is about the worst build quality on the market. Fren definatly wants to look for a second-hand.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEilCBbFisuypuURE by m0xee@social.librem.one
       2024-11-20T14:15:19Z
       
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       @kaia @mangeurdenuage Suggestion to fight like a lion to change the uni course incoming!Or is it changing the uni? Moving to another country? 🤭Anything goes in matters of war and not getting a laptop with Windows!
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEio1r87H5RoJgcy0 by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T14:15:50.840696Z
       
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       @kaia Why is a public school teaching a private tool ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEivZA4gYix8J8qpc by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T14:17:05.530617Z
       
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       @m0xee @mangeurdenuage I just want laptop suggestions and not discussions :bugcat_nod:
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEjW4XNVZ02ruRuq0 by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T14:23:40.304292Z
       
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       okay suggestions I got so far from IRL:- Dell XPS 15 7590 (32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, GeForce GTX 1650, i9-9980HK CPU with 4K OLED Display) -> will be twice her price limit, but sounds pretty good!- Convertible HP Elitebook X360 (1040 G8 i7-1165G7 16GB RAM 256GB SSD FullHD Touch) -> also twice the price, but looks cute
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEjn2YU8Axtdz3ecK by Legion495@mk.absturztau.be
       2024-11-20T14:25:10.247Z
       
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       @kaia@brotka.st Personal experience with HP Elitebooks. Stay away. Had one and dealt with them 3 years. Heard much better things about Dell XPS.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEjqkZ8xO9b0d8QZk by zonk@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T14:27:32.816647Z
       
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       @kaia sure, if you can find an older model, they're pretty good (in my experience). ebay likes to run sales on them from time to time, especially refurbished models. dell latitude is a more corporate model that's pretty good too.also try university surplus stores (if they exist in germany), they might give her a discount with her id
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEkFGjf0DivjPkHzs by moth_ball@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T14:31:58.336999Z
       
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       @mangeurdenuage @kaia Are you pretending to not get it or is it just your autism? I've been wondering for a while now.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEkJLS1PcwVVyRH84 by Jain@blob.cat
       2024-11-20T14:32:41.268916Z
       
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       @kaia :blobcatgoogly: if twice the price is ok, i would recommend a framework laptop
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEkMXE25lOutvPtoW by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
       2024-11-20T14:33:14.516284Z
       
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       @Legion495 @kaia dells are trash in a different way
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEkbXUVO1AQ4KHBbc by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
       2024-11-20T14:35:56.699706Z
       
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       @kaia decent gpu and screen are prob not doable for that price
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEkij9KRHEWFnnZWC by lain@lain.com
       2024-11-20T14:37:17.029905Z
       
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       @kaia https://www.itsco.de/2-in-1-ultrabook-convertible-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-yoga-gen-5-intel-core-i5-10310u-4x-1-7ghz-20uc-36177.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEkrnOK2N9o138Tui by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2024-11-20T14:38:55.331273Z
       
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       @kaia  An older Dell XPS isn't a bad recommendation.When it comes to convertibles, from my own experience the Lenovo Yoga convertible line isn't bad even with it's own quirks in each model. My Yoga 7 15ITL5 has a nice 15" touchscreen and stylus FullHD IPS display with rated 100% sRGB coverage (although probably uncalibrated) and shitty IO (2x Thunderbolt 3 (I think) USB-C, headphone jack and 2x USB3.X ports). It is dockable with my ghetto solution of 3 hubs sequentially plugged into one port, but somehow Windows power management randomly disconnects my mouse under a file transfer) and when you unplug the charger while "docked" it refuses to charge from that port until it's fully powered off for some reason. An actual dock would probably work much better. 2 other friends use the same exact model at uni almost daily for taking notes and they didn't complain to me about anything. One other friend has the newer 16" inch version (Yoga 7 16ITL6) of this model and only complained about overheating while charging in the first month until a BIOS update fixed it. They also sell a 14" model and the newer ones (2021+ I think) have OLED panels.Another option would be the Asus Zenbook 14" (model year 2021) which has 4K (I think) OLED touchscreen display. A friend of mine has it and likes it although I hate its numpad overlayed over the touchpad that can be quite hard to use.As for the one I cannot recommend: HP Envy x360 (from 2021). The touchscreen is finicky and barely working, build quality isn't great and the speakers have a substantial noise floor at 30%+ volume. In short, don't buy it and probably avoid HP products as I never had good experience with them.And probably also stay away from older ThinkPads as those have screens with horrible colors that aren't suitable for graphics work at all. All of these have integrated Intel Iris Xe GPUs (non dedicated) which are certainly usable even for some light gaming and were priced around 1K EUR 3-4 years ago depending on the processor/RAM config/storage, so 2nd hand pricing might be around the 500 EUR price which is still above the budget.I don't have any recommendations for normal non-convertible laptops but basically anything with a good FullHD IPS display and an Intel i5 CPU with 16GB of RAM will probably do.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEkylYBHRjKKj4SG0 by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2024-11-20T14:40:11.284458Z
       
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       @PurpCat @kaia @Legion495 In a battery dying in 2 years after manufacturing way. At least from my experience.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoElKj7gz9onAz9X3w by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T14:44:00.723938Z
       
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       @lain this looks very nice, thanks!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AoElP3WR5GqrbKn4q0 by lain@lain.com
       2024-11-20T14:44:56.050288Z
       
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       @kaia i've bought from that seller many times, they sell old business machines once the businesses replace them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEmLbqpbk34rmFcbA by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
       2024-11-20T14:55:27.949723Z
       
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       @phnt @kaia @Legion495 yeah that's because of express charge look it up
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEnEqUasCKsCdBiwi by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2024-11-20T15:05:28.088516Z
       
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       @mangeurdenuage @kaia don't make me dig up the greentext
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEnEsJg5knBrM62D2 by diesch@loma.ml
       2024-11-20T15:04:57Z
       
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       @kaia maybe have a look at lapstore.de/
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEnIerS3mqZHrhJL6 by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T15:06:03.165385Z
       
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       @phnt thanks a lot for the detailed information!lain recommended a ThinkPad Yoga, which matches your recommendation and experiences. it’s also close to her price range. I’ll recommend this to her as the first choice.I’ll check on your other suggestions :kaia_look:
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEnSVTToXiX4SBIIq by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T15:05:31.527664Z
       
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       @diesch checking, thank you!
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEopZbeiZyYV4ZIGG by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
       2024-11-20T15:19:56.254492Z
       
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       @kaia something with 9th or 10th gen intel coupled with equivalent dgpu. Should be around that price by now. Avoid hp.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEsf0rxPkyZgaPfxQ by tk@nerdculture.de
       2024-11-20T15:36:00Z
       
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       @kaia https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/acer+aspire+go+ag14+21p+r2tf+829827 ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEsf2wdhJuS7gcRX6 by kaia@brotka.st
       2024-11-20T15:39:57.180857Z
       
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       @tk checking, thank you!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AoEzCT7jz8A2b58EaW by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T17:19:32.777271Z
       
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       @moth_ball @kaia >you pretending to not get it What I get is that corporations are pushing/financing these courses.What I also get is that people who say "it's the work standard" fallacy should be purged, this logic doesn't hold up as you can look at "standards" like was maya and everyone's migrating to blender and some other software like OBS etc..>or is it just your autism?Both is good.>I've been wondering for a while now.I though my :DDD would have been explicit enough that I was jacking people chain's off.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoF0oLJBagUhJg6o5o by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2024-11-20T17:37:33.911980Z
       
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       @mangeurdenuage @moth_ball @kaia the thing is, blender and OBS actually Werksstop trying to shill gimp while it's still, you know, gimped
       
 (DIR) Post #AoF0wtQccLMJSDfEGW by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T17:39:08.509236Z
       
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       @hakui @kaia @moth_ball >actually WerksPeople have to more money then, because that's why obs/blender actually just works.Software likes gimp would require like a full team and there's 1 and a half dude on it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoF101SnCSMnF8AhaC by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2024-11-20T17:39:40.624967Z
       
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       @mangeurdenuage @kaia @moth_ball well let us know when it happens, not before
       
 (DIR) Post #AoFRahMNVLNmPrJv04 by goatmeal@clubcyberia.co
       2024-11-20T22:37:39.614688Z
       
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       @kaia filter to intel arc graphics, sort by price ascending. for some reason almost all of these have OLED touch screens
       
 (DIR) Post #AoGDpB2ck4xUKE3AZM by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2024-11-21T07:38:00.885985Z
       
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       @kaia @mangeurdenuage If you write "no Linux", I'm going to gladly recommend GNU/Linux-libre.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoKT13Irc78dkIbf9s by AndrzejWasowski@social.itu.dk
       2024-11-23T07:18:56Z
       
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       @kaiaFascinating, we would never make hardware/os requirements in CS... I think the students would leave :)@mangeurdenuage