Post AnwjsSNu1oG6M3Pcoa by icedquinn@blob.cat
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(DIR) Post #AnlFDfQ18n3l9MXWfQ by billyjoebowers@mastodon.online
2024-11-06T04:55:06Z
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Anyone blaming Harris and Democrats right now can fuck off. Your family and neighbors are voting for Nazis, that's the problem.
(DIR) Post #AnlFDg5qdGWJF66vrs by zl2tod@mastodon.online
2024-11-06T06:32:42Z
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@billyjoebowers The US had a choice between supporting the genocidal Nazi government of Israel or supporting a Nazi government at home.They chose the latter.We are all poorer for it, or will be soon.
(DIR) Post #AnlFDgqHqbfPZ7q1Fg by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-06T08:57:36Z
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@zl2tod @billyjoebowers > The US had a choice between supporting the genocidal Nazi government of Israel or supporting a Nazi government at homeNot really. Orange Stalin and Vance are louder in their support of Likud fascism than Biden/ Harris, but I don't remember the latter having policy to stop sending weapons to the IDF, let alone doing anything about their ongoing genocide in Gaza, or even the full boots-on-the-ground invasions of their neighbours.
(DIR) Post #AnlFDh7eo1YsQzxtKK by billyjoebowers@mastodon.online
2024-11-06T06:35:40Z
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This is going to turn out to be a good thread for finding edgelord children to block. You're welcome.
(DIR) Post #AnvGiYqs2LBdghvmkq by awmwrites@anarchism.space
2024-11-06T07:45:12Z
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@snigdha Democrats didn't offer a meaningful alternative to Trump. Kamala supports the genocide in Gaza and Israel expansionism, supports cops over Black Lives Matters protesters, when pushed on trans people, she said she would leave it up to state laws, essentially abandoning trans people in red states. If the dems had put forth a popular candidate with popular policies, progressives would have come out in droves to support, instead they ran center right "We won't do what they do," campaign.
(DIR) Post #AnvGkyRBsdlxcV4OYK by awmwrites@anarchism.space
2024-11-06T08:14:50Z
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@snigdha 1/2 Anyone that I think would be better is my own opinion. If Biden had kept his promise to be a one term president earlier, the dems could have run a primary. If the dems had let the primaries in 2020 go by without consolidating behind Biden, we could be in a second Sanders term. Going back even further, if the dem party had stopped racist redistricting and gerrymandering, or the anti-democratic electoral at any time in the last several years, votes would be generally more fair
(DIR) Post #AnvGl0klGqcEnmF3Kq by awmwrites@anarchism.space
2024-11-06T08:15:07Z
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@snigdha 2/2 I know all of this is hindsight, but the ultimate blame of Harris' electoral loss lies with Harris running a bad campaign, not with the voters who didn't want to vote for the person running a bad campaign, which is what you'll likely see in the coming weeks.
(DIR) Post #AnvGwCOmJVOU6ZIIQC by TFFPrisoner@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T08:55:19Z
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@awmwritesSanders might have moved the needle in 2016, but not in 2020. People wanted stability and normalcy after the Trump chaos and Biden, who had been Obama's vice president, was the right person to provide that. He was also good for gobbling up Republican votes. I guess being female and not white was what kept Harris from getting those votes.@snigdha
(DIR) Post #AnvGwCq4g1EDTE45y4 by awmwrites@anarchism.space
2024-11-06T08:59:26Z
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@TFFPrisoner @snigdha We'll never know because Democratic Party fixers convinced people like Buttigieg and O'Rourke to drop out in March and rally support behind Biden to stop Bernie from gaining more votes, but I think most Democratic voters would have gone for Bernie because his policies were and still are popular
(DIR) Post #AnvGwDGJ6UDCmaL2rA by Infoseepage@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T16:13:46Z
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@awmwrites @TFFPrisoner @snigdha I think Buttigieg would have won this election. I'm less sure about Sanders given the age related criticism of Biden. Sanders would have been my preference, though. He would have turned out progressives in huge numbers and has also maintained consistent vocal opposition to Israel's excessive violence.
(DIR) Post #AnvGwDq6xMqsZd5dfE by Greengordon@spore.social
2024-11-06T16:20:16Z
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@awmwrites @TFFPrisoner @snigdha It would have made more sense for Harris to say she’ll have Sanders or lefties at her cabinet, not a Republican.
(DIR) Post #AnvGwDuigEXQnvFJqa by shuttersparks@qoto.org
2024-11-06T05:36:10Z
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@billyjoebowers It's certainly the problem here in West Virginia. Here is the epicenter of under-educated, greedy, self-centered, parochial know-it-alls. Just the kind of people Trump appeals to.But if Trump wins, they'll get theirs -- what they deserve. Hahaha. Stupidity has a price and they're going to pay it.
(DIR) Post #AnvGwEXiLFjKkrUScy by yacc143@mastodon.social
2024-11-06T08:19:00Z
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@shuttersparks @billyjoebowers Yes, but please spank them, without spanking the rest of the planet.
(DIR) Post #AnvHTVjlR0ARddziKG by clacke@libranet.de
2024-11-11T05:08:30Z
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@strypey Yeah. I get people being upset that Dems didn't offer an alternative to the standard US line of unconditional support to Israel. But I don't get at all those claiming that the current choice would be *better*. There has been no signal in that direction, quite the opposite.Just because the President Elect is an anti-semite doesn't mean he cares about Palestinians.@zl2tod @billyjoebowers
(DIR) Post #AnvIN1xbKaPbVIwMlM by sun@shitposter.world
2024-11-11T05:20:07.363363Z
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@clacke @strypey it’s not better it just makes clear you’re not going to be taken for granted which is a long term strategy
(DIR) Post #AnvIcG1pJAhTTmB4PQ by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-11-11T05:22:52.714281Z
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@sun Also most Americans immediately stop caring about both Israel and Palestine as soon as it gets past “thoughts and prayers”@clacke @strypey
(DIR) Post #AnvIhzBgpqWazAWSZM by sun@shitposter.world
2024-11-11T05:23:54.635688Z
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@leyonhjelm @clacke @strypey Muslim Americans deep down don’t care about a lot of the issues other white democratic voters care about I think
(DIR) Post #AnvIpgtoiMFOa9pw4e by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-11-11T05:25:16.947280Z
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@sun @leyonhjelm @clacke @strypey well I don't think anyone would be voting for Harris if their relatives were being murdered en mass. Even then blaming third party voters is another cope, Harris wouldnt have won anyways.
(DIR) Post #AnvJ1DveFfYKCtBzhA by sun@shitposter.world
2024-11-11T05:27:23.147656Z
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@teratology @leyonhjelm @clacke @strypey basically yeah I suspect that if you think no matter what your relatives are gonna get killed you can afford a protest vote
(DIR) Post #AnvJBtdS2iLUS9loEy by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-11-11T05:29:18.650879Z
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@sun @leyonhjelm @clacke @strypey but also actually democratically electing a primary candidate helps too lol
(DIR) Post #AnvKb4Y0hyY9UTnHf6 by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-11-11T05:45:04.350124Z
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@sun I don’t think it’s very deep down. They know both parties hate them though so that is a factor@clacke @strypey
(DIR) Post #AnvLM4I9TdJQJ8mlVY by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-11-11T05:53:33.861515Z
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@teratology Both parties have avoided that for a long time. If their other options in 2016 weren’t pure trash or Ron Paul, they’d have definitely cheated to screw Trump in favor of the usual neocon puppets. After Romney, they were definitely on thin ice with their base. @clacke @strypey @sun
(DIR) Post #Anw3njqZToWEzTtCim by clacke@libranet.de
2024-11-11T14:11:01Z
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@sun That sounds an awful lot like accelerationism to me.@strypey
(DIR) Post #AnwjbI4z5aupTGNUbg by sun@shitposter.world
2024-11-11T21:59:56.877628Z
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@clacke @strypey I don’t think so, they just don’t have other choices
(DIR) Post #AnwjsSNu1oG6M3Pcoa by icedquinn@blob.cat
2024-11-11T22:03:02.757886Z
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@teratology @leyonhjelm @clacke @strypey @sun the irony that the party crowing about the end of democracy has refused to practice democratic principles for 2/3 of the recent elections.
(DIR) Post #AnwjzOv5JCIddUFCEa by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-11-11T22:04:18.493670Z
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@icedquinn I would consider the problem a lot longer standing than that, in both parties.@clacke @strypey @sun @teratology