Post AnuqJ2AdoGR0HVLUae by Ponygirl@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AnZWS7Ppnk7geoSnWy by freemo@qoto.org
2024-10-31T17:10:55Z
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Arguing men shouldnt have a right to an opinion on abortion because they can only be the victim of abortion and never the executor is like arguing women shouldnt have an opinion on rape because they are typically the victim and not the executor.We all started our lives as fetuses and would have been effected by abortion laws, and as such we all should have a right to an opinion on the matter.
(DIR) Post #AnZrgVZis6pcg6n85I by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-10-31T17:17:09Z
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@freemo Of course everyone has a right to their opinion on any subject.But it does seem clear that while men are not unaffected, women *are* disproportionately affected and their voices should therefore hold more weight on the subject.And the inverse holds true as well. Men's voices carry more weight when it comes to men's issues, such as the legality and ease of access to Viagra.
(DIR) Post #AnZrgWtxwKcOnBGoHA by bonifartius@qoto.org
2024-10-31T21:10:21Z
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@louis @freemo > And the inverse holds true as well. Men's voices carry more weight when it comes to men's issues, such as the legality and ease of access to Viagra.access to viagra isn't killing small humans.
(DIR) Post #AnZrsF1WEi2KoqO5qK by freemo@qoto.org
2024-10-31T21:14:06Z
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@bonifartius Viagra isnt a drug that effects is a woman will live tonsee adulthood... abortion is an act which does kill men and prevent them from reaching adulthood. It very much is a male issue.@louis
(DIR) Post #AnZsQ3xRstmWLTbx8S by brimshae@poa.st
2024-10-31T21:20:24.333420Z
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@louis @freemo I feel like the baby is more affected by abortion than the woman and should probably be given a say as well.
(DIR) Post #AnZsjgQv3fshB0ketU by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-10-31T21:21:45Z
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@bonifartius @freemo One could argue that a lack of it does. Ultimately it just depends on when you think life starts and whether or not you're willing to use violence to enforce that belief.
(DIR) Post #AnZtIsYTysRAuL4VcW by bonifartius@qoto.org
2024-10-31T21:30:17Z
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@louis @freemo life starts at inception. that many fetuses die in the first weeks doesn't change this.i don't think violence solves anything, it just shifts problems.
(DIR) Post #AnZw6aPfuGjn1pmY8u by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-10-31T21:24:27Z
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@brimshae @freemo Why stop there? Let's give individual sperms and eggs a say too.
(DIR) Post #AnZw6bKkU4OJsqU86S by brimshae@poa.st
2024-10-31T22:01:41.329729Z
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@louis @freemo Challenge unlocked: Tell me you're upset at what I said without saying you're upset at what I said.
(DIR) Post #AnZwP025OOQPhNWpvM by brimshae@poa.st
2024-10-31T22:05:01.906840Z
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@bonifartius @louis @freemo That guy is saying that cutting a body to pieces and sucking it through a straw isn't violence. Maybe it's just an industrial incident.
(DIR) Post #Ana3wjSKEL71oNplOS by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-10-31T22:08:30Z
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@brimshae @freemo Lol, what? I extended your own logic to point out its absurd conclusions. Whatever undertone of malice or frustration you think you read were entirely in your head.Try reading my toots as intended: detached, emotionless, and vaguely condescending; like a has-been Shakespearean actor who's now recording audiobooks for printer manuals.
(DIR) Post #Ana3wkjNUQLZlYotc0 by brimshae@poa.st
2024-10-31T23:29:33.044011Z
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@louis @freemo Just promise me you won't have kids.
(DIR) Post #Ana4dvkgOD18Op1Eo4 by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-10-31T23:35:33Z
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@brimshae @freemo And the mask comes off.
(DIR) Post #Ana4dxEqrWkB0g8qTA by brimshae@poa.st
2024-10-31T23:37:21.162598Z
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@louis @freemo Ok. Make your mask-off post. I'm lying on the sife of the road with a twosted ankpe waiting to be picked up.If you could actually respond to the point I made about the baby being most effected, I'd appreciate. Might ease the pain until I can get an ice pack.
(DIR) Post #AnuqJ2AdoGR0HVLUae by Ponygirl@mastodon.social
2024-11-11T00:05:34Z
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@bonifartius @louis @freemo Abortion is never illegal for the wealthy. Abortion bans are class warfare.
(DIR) Post #AnutrxlmSpf0d743bE by bonifartius@qoto.org
2024-11-11T00:44:07Z
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@Ponygirl @louis @freemo a ban always is enforced by threat of violence. i specifically wrote that violence doesn't solve this (or any) problem.class warfare is a bullshit collectivist concept.did you seek out other threads of freemo because you are now agnostic? :)
(DIR) Post #AnuuWbOWYiOh6jZ4DI by freemo@qoto.org
2024-11-11T00:52:46Z
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@bonifartius Just to be clear he is more than welcome on my threads. He has been nothing but polite and if he wants to look through my threads and jump in, so long as he remains respectful, it is more than welcome.@Ponygirl @louis
(DIR) Post #AnuvAgGHslLtmnp4sa by Ponygirl@mastodon.social
2024-11-11T00:50:26Z
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@bonifartius @louis @freemo I found I enjoy debating freemo because the debate is cordial, and it gets my brain juices flowing. We've not attacked each other. I'm sorry, but dismissing class warfare is ignoring millenia of human history. And your enforcing bans with violence comment made me a bit sick in my tummy.
(DIR) Post #AnuvAhO7h7DLHOUqjQ by bonifartius@qoto.org
2024-11-11T01:00:09Z
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@Ponygirl @louis @freemo well, you replied to my post!> I'm sorry, but dismissing class warfare is ignoring millenia of human history. still pushing for collectivist ideas and concepts like class warfare is.> And your enforcing bans with violence comment made me a bit sick in my tummy.sorry. violence is how states work. if something is the law it is backed by violence. a fine not paid will end with property being taken away by force and people being put in jail. the ideology behind the concept of class warfare is the embodiment of state violence.
(DIR) Post #AnuwZ9oLln0mKtzTlY by bonifartius@qoto.org
2024-11-11T01:11:38Z
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@freemo @Ponygirl @louis i was just teasing (hence the smiley) because this thread is a bit old and i read the atheism thread earlier. i don't like two sentence drive by with communist rethorics though. of course "the wealthy" can do more things than others, but why is this wrong? why is it warfare? in states that follow these ideas we wouldn't be able to have this exchange we have here.
(DIR) Post #AnuwZB8woh58T4dRVg by freemo@qoto.org
2024-11-11T01:15:37Z
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@bonifartius I think you may just be particularly senative to anti-capitalist discussion because so often it devolves into nonsense, and I do get that. Might I suggest we give ponygirl the benefit of the doubt here that it wont go that far based on how reasonable she has been in debate so far?That said while, as you know, I have no issues with capitalism, and even think its good when implemented properly, I kinda agree with ponygirl on this one. While you are right that it is perfectly ok for the wealthy to do more or have more than the poor, I dont think that should carry over to the law. The law is one place everyone should be equal, and being wealthy should not make you immune to some laws while the poor not. Laws should be about morality, and enforcing it. Something doesnt become right just because you have more money to get around the rules. Now I wouldnt blame the wealthy person, they are just working within the system. But it certainly is an indication that there is a failure in the law when that happens.@Ponygirl @louis