Post AnridHFK5Rb5imnVWC by mer@shrine.moe
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(DIR) Post #AnridHFK5Rb5imnVWC by mer@shrine.moe
2024-11-09T11:55:30.098593Z
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@nano @ahto @mizah anyone who still shits on signal to this day while we have their subpoena disclosure records does it only to shill for telegram (fascist honeypot) or whatsapp (lol)it's the same old tired shilling that brave does, if signal's not good for you maybe you should not be using a phone at all
(DIR) Post #AnroB9VRryT1KiJQbw by ahto@tiggi.es
2024-11-09T12:05:03Z
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@mer @mizah @nano I don't actually shill for telegram or whatsapp nor do I shill for brave?However, first of all though, are you assuming I am someone like this?As for your phone comment:And maybe I shouldn't be using a phone at all, maybe I'll explore that at a later time and re-evaluate.But I guess, what is the connection here? What is the relevance of this comment in relation to "If signal's not good for you, maybe you should not be using a phone at all"?
(DIR) Post #AnroBAT0IY6cJQAzRI by mer@shrine.moe
2024-11-09T12:57:39.590538Z
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@ahto @mizah @nano It's very simple: here's the extent of the data using signal compromises>the phone number associated with an accountif an account is being investigated, and there is dirt on you, it means the recipient is compromised, that's not the software failing, that's a user vulnerability present in any form of communication>date of last connectionwhen most people use a phone, even people with very privacy oriented setups mind you, your phone will handshake to some form of receiver, if you have wifi locked down it'll be cell towersIf your phone is an airgapped brick, it's not using signal to begin withso there is another way to know you've been using your phoneconnection doesn't meant message sent, so it cannot be used to associate you with a message sent>date of first connectioninfinitesimally relevant, can be made irrelevant by the most trivial meansWhile the phone number vulnerability is there, it's organically reminding you that user security (and passwalling your side of the app) is important. Something that would be functionally the same problem if you had the mathematical optimal solution.It does all this while being easy to onboard people on and frictionless.There are better bespoke solutions, there are none that have comparable ease of use. If you are going to message an unsecure recipient with senitive information you could buy a burner... but at this point you shouldn't be playing spy with someone who doesn't have local encryption, expiring messages and a distress password, all features that are implemented right now.There is that fucking detailed enough for you?
(DIR) Post #Anrqd6XIhok48cdQxc by ahto@tiggi.es
2024-11-09T13:19:03Z
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@mer @mizah @nano Sure and although I have more questions with your cases, I can explore more of these on my own easily enough.Given your aggressive behaviour, I am not really in the mood to handle whatever this is from you.
(DIR) Post #Anrqd84J0ajktH5J2m by mer@shrine.moe
2024-11-09T13:25:06.805300Z
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@ahto @mizah @nano I'm agressive because people who nitpick shit like this are usually shills who are talking in bad faithif you do have the technical know how to understand and analyse the pros and cons at play, you could have done so yourselfIt has been made popular to nitpick signal because of marketing campaign by telegram. Even if you are not yourself a shill, you've parotted the shills' empty talking points instead of thinking for yourself.
(DIR) Post #AnrqtGbB3rDJyo9g7E by KrAA_b@furry.engineer
2024-11-09T13:25:41Z
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@nano @mer @ahto @mizah you don't need a phone Number anymore iirc. You create a username - no phone number, e-mail or anything.
(DIR) Post #AnrqtI9bHMLKnrGgPQ by ahto@tiggi.es
2024-11-09T13:26:07Z
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@KrAA_b @nano @mer @mizah Oh! Interesting
(DIR) Post #AnrqtJGj8LdcGFbt9k by mer@shrine.moe
2024-11-09T13:28:01.517838Z
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@ahto @KrAA_b @nano @mizah you do need a phone number but you have the option to not share it with recipientsa subpoena will still reveal your number from your username
(DIR) Post #Anry7YCj6GMcJeTbmK by ahto@tiggi.es
2024-11-09T14:08:07Z
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@mer @mizah @nano True, I could have looked into it just before I sent the message but I looked into this ages ago and assumed it had not really changed and as outlined in another post, maybe I am irrationally holding out for a better solution/or further developments on all platforms I am interested in (including Signal).It also depends on how deep I want to go into this analysis and at the moment, I CBF'd and using information that I can just use off-hand.However, as for my statement prior and your assertion now, there is a difference between weighing it all up myself and just asking for clarification on a statement you made that I wanted you to clarify/elaborate on rather than make a guess.Now, also given your assertion of me being a shill based on my initial comment, if my concern is about the phone number, that is the same concern with Telegram and WhatsApp.So if I am a shill for one of those as you tried to assert, it didn't really seem to make sense? So, you'll probably have to enlighten into how I am "parroting those talking points"?Now, is your aggression warranted or necessary here? NoYou could have even of ignored my comment or just asked why I exercised my apprehension with it? Instead you wanted to do whatever this performance was.So, I'll advise you right now to not respond to me after this message and go away.
(DIR) Post #Anry7Z1m2TCGryMNLU by mer@shrine.moe
2024-11-09T14:49:03.231218Z
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@ahto @mizah @nano >So if I am a shill for one of those as you tried to assert, it didn't really seem to make sense? So, you'll probably have to enlighten into how I am "parroting those talking points"?you are parotting the talking point "signal is bad because phone number", you did it it's a fact. maybe you did it because you absorbed it through other's repeating it and you just never verified it, that doesn't make you a shill.>Now, is your aggression warranted or necessary here? NoI alone decide if my tone is correct or not, you are talking with the tone of someone who is technically knowledgeable about the subject, but you aren't. At best you're ignorant. At worst you're sealioning.>Now, is your aggression warranted or necessary here? Noget off your high horse, if you don't wanna talk anymore just don't replyand if you don't want people to talk to you to begin with, keep your thoughts private
(DIR) Post #Ans16EecbK4DFtaYuu by ahto@tiggi.es
2024-11-09T15:13:00Z
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@mer @mizah @nano I'll make it quick here then report you.1. Still no evidence to back it up and you are projecting. While it is a common criticism, not inherently an incorrect one and not one I would see the shills you mentioned mention either?2. Uhuh, so you have assumed that I am trying to sound technically competent but you have 'seen' through it and deduced that I am not. Okay, you are free to have that opinion.I didn't say anything about your tone being correct or not, I outlined it was aggressive and you admitted that. I outlined that I didn't want to engage with someone who was aggressive and you persisted and wanted to further demean myself.3. True and I probably should, on one part I have requested twice and you have kept coming back for some reason. I mostly requested you to move-along as I won't really feel the need to report you over this but hey! We crossed that line.While I do get some joy out of witnessing these embarrassing posts, they have to come to end.
(DIR) Post #Ans16Fqi9rKcxgFjOq by mer@shrine.moe
2024-11-09T15:22:27.275128Z
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@ahto @mizah @nano I have been helpful during the discussion, taking time to explain things to youyou have done nothing but "Just Asking Questions" and tone policingno one cares about your report, in this situation you should block or mute me. Or even better, stop replying. I pinky promise you I'm not gonna send you another message if you don't reply.But you REALLY want to have the last word don't you?