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(DIR) Post #Anphet16eYx4stQo7c by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T12:35:10Z
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My son, if you have put up esecurity for your neighbor,have egiven your pledge for a stranger, if you are snared in the words of your mouth,caught in the words of your mouth,then do this, my son, and save yourself,for you have come into the hand of your neighbor:go, hasten,1 and gplead urgently with your neighbor. Proverbs 6:1-3Is this just saying “if you made a promise you are struggling to keep admit it immediately and work hard to make it right”
(DIR) Post #AnphrAUrUNvUZYCoee by superflippy@mastodon.xyz
2024-11-08T12:37:20Z
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@futurebird I think so, but “put up security” also seems to imply a loan.
(DIR) Post #Anphud6rYzTkBNdBb6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T12:37:59Z
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@superflippy Yeah I’m confused about that in particular.
(DIR) Post #Anpisbgty1Td9p5SxU by superflippy@mastodon.xyz
2024-11-08T12:48:47Z
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@futurebird Some quick searching and it boils down to, essentially, co-signing a loan. Like, if you co-sign a loan for someone else & it turns out they can’t pay, then you’re on the hook. So you had better not only be able to pay, but also be sure of the person you’re supporting, because they could bankrupt you.
(DIR) Post #AnpivABWgrr2iYd9d2 by aadmaa@mathstodon.xyz
2024-11-08T12:49:16Z
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@futurebird Are you just trying to make us look it up so we can see the next verse? Myrmecological propaganda!
(DIR) Post #Anpjt3sTGnPEWyHNYm by DrorBedrack@mastodon.social
2024-11-08T13:00:03Z
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@futurebird work hard like an ant?
(DIR) Post #Anpjz128kzOTRodoMS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T13:01:11Z
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@aadmaa What are you talking about? I would NEVER.
(DIR) Post #Anpk5S1ZJp10taRUMi by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T13:02:21Z
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@DrorBedrack Well since *you* brought it up … yes.
(DIR) Post #AnpkgIpAUFnr4pDLm4 by barrygoldman1@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T13:09:00Z
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@futurebird been awhile, but some observations.1) the english is already weird, cuz...the hebrew...https://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2806.htmis out of this world.removed from us by half a dozen civilizations. I'm always doubtful we can understand it well. PLENTY of passages scholars admit they don't understand.2) often in torah, there are many levels. situations between individuals is often metaphor for situations between peoples. neighbor could be your neibhor, OR all of Israel's neibhoring nation.
(DIR) Post #AnplERhvxutuTR6xua by barrygoldman1@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T13:15:10Z
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@futurebird also.. chapter before it descirbes dont be seduced by stranger woman, stick to your wife. ths is a common metaphor for don't be seduced by stranger gods. tho.. the chapter before that personifies wisdom as a woman too.tho some passages definintely seem to have to do with day to day dealings with individuals
(DIR) Post #AnpnYWbleenhN9vg0m by barrygoldman1@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T13:41:13Z
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@futurebird ok, enough getting distracted by ancient texts! but i'm reading these chapters, general theme seems to be God/Solomon: I am your god, I've set for you wisdom to live by, why are you straying after other gods/systems?but then again it says don't become indebted to you neighbors? be like the ants! but ants are all neibors working together.in the end i'm finding a lot of this text a bit bonkers. too alien!
(DIR) Post #AnpnnvHEDeocE0fG5I by barrygoldman1@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T13:44:00Z
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@futurebird @aadmaa at least the text gets it right about ants not having leaders! i think aristotle gets it wrong? i wonder
(DIR) Post #Anq5EFkCRYKkS9MAOe by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T16:59:14Z
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@barrygoldman1 @aadmaa He must not have watched ants at all then. It is very obvious they live in the most perfected state of anarchy if you do.
(DIR) Post #AnqM95qJWlixW8LG4m by aadmaa@mathstodon.xyz
2024-11-08T20:08:46Z
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@futurebird @barrygoldman1 I think Aristotle may be in the clear on this score:"Again, of these social creatures some submit to a ruler, others are subject to no governance: as, for instance, the crane and the several sorts of bee submit to a ruler, whereas ants and numerous other creatures are every one his own master." (from the History of Animals - here - https://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/history_anim.mb.txt)
(DIR) Post #AnqmAXUSokhMMXTJDc by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
2024-11-09T01:00:21Z
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@futurebird I'd say that he meant "if you're hosting your neighbor's SSH certificates and you had a security breach, you need to disclose it immediately without any embargo, lest you get afoul of the GDPR regulations (and of God's wrath)".
(DIR) Post #Anqw4hTJnD3z7jn3z6 by bwebster@dice.camp
2024-11-09T02:51:21Z
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@futurebird @barrygoldman1 @aadmaa antarchy, if you will
(DIR) Post #Anr2jJ7Br5jvBEBcAK by barrygoldman1@sauropods.win
2024-11-08T21:50:19Z
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@aadmaa @futurebird yes thats it, aristotle thought honeybees had 'KING' bees. he must have not watched the 'king' lay eggs. but maybe he saw all the workers fawning over her!whereas.. he never found any queen ants, well hidden!
(DIR) Post #Anr2q3Oggy6WSXaUTI by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-09T04:07:10Z
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@lienrag OH!
(DIR) Post #Anr95NwhAu0QG4BjSS by nix@social.stlouist.com
2024-11-09T05:09:01Z
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@aadmaa @futurebird The real question is: did you find this while searching for "ant" in the bible?
(DIR) Post #Anr95PXxDrP5Dud0Ai by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-09T05:17:09Z
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@nix @aadmaa ha ha ha what makes you ask THAT?
(DIR) Post #AnrziMDEkQjZnDpW4m by nix@social.stlouist.com
2024-11-09T15:06:49Z
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@futurebird @aadmaa Just a tiny, 6 legged, hunch.