Post AnomDp55U2xVTJFRY0 by va2lam@mastodon.nz
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(DIR) Post #Anma2QRTAAfe6Ub1AO by mu@mastodon.nz
2024-11-06T19:48:12Z
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Is it my imagination, or are a few more people masking on public transport than a few months ago? #Covid #masks
(DIR) Post #Anma2RmQBl1aFlPGSm by CarolynStirling@mastodon.nz
2024-11-06T22:29:23Z
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@mu Auckland is shocking. My daughter sees few masking on the bus. Sometimes none. I’m usually the only one masking at the Supermarket. I’ve rarely seen anyone else masking in the waiting room at the doctors surgery. My doctor wears an N95. She lost a close relative to COVID and they weren’t elderly.
(DIR) Post #Anma2SYdIVaafHxlbs by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-11-06T23:38:57Z
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@CarolynStirling @mu pharmacies and doctor's offices really make no sense to not mask in---by definition there will be sick people there! Buses have lots of recirculated air and I would mask too. Supermarkets: there's no downside to masking, but off peak it is probably objectively lower risk.
(DIR) Post #Anma2TAD2neAXpXmBE by BobLefridge@mastodon.nz
2024-11-06T23:48:08Z
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I'm often the only one masking at the supermarket, but I'll never understand how the same applies in the hospital. It's a hospital. Most of the 'guests' are sick, many are vulnerable. Is this what you get when the masses choose to replace common sense with Facebook?On the plus side, my GP always wears a mask. @va2lam @CarolynStirling @mu
(DIR) Post #Anma2TcvK2cDysyhw8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-07T00:25:34Z
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@BobLefridge> I'm often the only one masking at the supermarketAnd I defend to the death your right to do so. Particularly at supermarkets with facial recognition cameras ; )> my GP always wears a maskMine doesn't. Neither do the receptionists at the clinic. Nor any of the staff at the pharmacies I go to.If medical staff are no longer masking obsessively, maybe they're telling it's not that effective?@va2lam @CarolynStirling @mu
(DIR) Post #AnmdJWKQpWzH969CPA by mu@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T01:02:16Z
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@strypey @BobLefridge @va2lam @CarolynStirling masking is very effective against a variety of illnesses, and the evidence is very clear. What I feel is more of a problem is the unwillingness of anyone to put up with a minor inconvenience if they can't see the thing they are protecting against. Human brains are wired to get bored without stimulation, and there isn't any stimulation in "I didn't get sick this month"
(DIR) Post #AnnjLMVd6SEY9abezY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-07T13:44:34Z
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@mu > masking is very effective against a variety of illnesses, and the evidence is very clearSo people keep saying. I've yet to see a single link to this very clear evidence. If it's so clear, why have even medical professionals giving up on all-day-every-day masking?@BobLefridge @va2lam @CarolynStirling
(DIR) Post #AnnjbUmC8LfOQY30e8 by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T01:03:30Z
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@mu @strypey @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling which is why the vaccine-only strategy is what governments went for---though air filtration is also a thing that doesn't take affirmative action from the user and can be done by regulation.
(DIR) Post #AnnjbW2BSO3CKQXICu by mu@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T01:04:23Z
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@va2lam @strypey @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling yep.It's a shame that they only half-assed the vaccine strategy though.
(DIR) Post #AnnjbX8bM0mJkcXvqi by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-07T13:47:29Z
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@mu> It's a shame that they only half-assed the vaccine strategy thoughMaybe that's because the vaccines are half-arsed? I got sick for a couple of days after each of the first 2 jabs, and got COVID days after getting the third. My completely unvaccinated flatmate got it at the same time, and had pretty much the same illness.I'm no longer convinced the vaccines weren't a con, just like 'flu vaccines, and I won't be making myself sick with any more.@va2lam @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling
(DIR) Post #Ano3v8CNmhU9HLwAXw by CarolynStirling@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T17:35:03Z
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@va2lam @mu @strypey @BobLefridge My daughter caught COVID because she let down her guard and stayed unmasked in the lunchroom at work just one time. She’d previously masked when making her tea and then taking her lunch to the Park next door to her work. She had previously been exposed to COVID at work but had been masked when she’d been in contact with the infected persons. Masked she did not get infected.
(DIR) Post #Ano4JhOmYzLNOqS4oq by CarolynStirling@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T17:39:30Z
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@strypey @BobLefridge @va2lam @mu The one time my daughter let her guard down at work and was unmasked in an airless lunch room she caught COVID. She’d managed at home not to get infected by isolating the patient and everyone masking. Bathroom window wide open at all times . They had to share the bathroom. Wiping down bathroom door knob etc with alcohol wipes. Masking does work.
(DIR) Post #Ano9atwXfxw102GTqK by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T18:38:38Z
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@strypey @mu @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling if you can get it (probably not in NZ), Novavax is reported to have fewer side effects. One of my doses was Novavax. The population level numbers are pretty clear about the vaccines working, but you might not observe that firsthand.
(DIR) Post #AnoGpFRVEoBvPbXCnA by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T19:59:39Z
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@strypey @mu @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling medical professionals have been known to do the wrong thing in quite a number of cases, because they are people and the science doesn't always catch up for quite a while. Most recently I would cite peanut allergies in the US, which are likely caused by bad advice to avoid all peanuts for kids under 3.Here is a study showing that masks stop COVID from the emitter side (which is different from saying they protect wearers): https://today.umd.edu/n95-masks-nearly-perfect-at-blocking-covid-umd-study-shows
(DIR) Post #AnoLFwepaVNImpkpYu by mu@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T20:49:12Z
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@strypey @BobLefridge @va2lam @CarolynStirling it's pretty easy to google, but you can give every thing from advice like this https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449To harder studies. Here is a meta-analysis from JAMA https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536What sort of evidence would you consider to be convincing?
(DIR) Post #AnoLQ9m9faLoMr37MO by mu@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T20:51:10Z
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@strypey @va2lam @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling I mean, the vaccines have been studied at length, there are thousands of good papers out there, this is a pretty accessible one https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2117128What would you consider convincing?
(DIR) Post #AnojmNvY8JY9WpZkf2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-08T01:24:09Z
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@mu> What would you consider convincing?Taking the vaccine and not getting COVID would have been pretty convincing. I don't know a single one. Even not getting as sick as people who didn't take it would have been better than nothing.The 'rona is now just one more set of coronaviruses floating around, like the 'flu. For most of us, life goes on. But it seems like a handful of people are stuck in crisis mode, and they really need to stop and grieve.@va2lam @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling
(DIR) Post #AnojvmGwzITzdk43ou by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-08T01:25:49Z
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@mu> What sort of evidence would you consider to be convincing?Medical professionals continuing with all-day-every-day masking?@BobLefridge @va2lam @CarolynStirling
(DIR) Post #Anok94PyplJPgMcuIK by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-11-08T01:28:08Z
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@strypey @mu @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling nah not gonna see it. It is reasonable to think that they would have all the answers but they don't.
(DIR) Post #AnoklFcDeOX3PlYbUe by AnneleiseHall@mastodon.nz
2024-11-07T20:07:52Z
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@BobLefridge @CarolynStirling @va2lam @strypey @mu I wore a mask to my local shop yesterday as I have a crappy sneezy cold. Some dickhead tradie felt emboldened to yell out to me ‘covid is over’. So the right wing disinfo machine and people’s aggressive disrespect has basically destroyed any chance of most people wearing masks to preserve other people’s health.
(DIR) Post #AnoklGvOmZT5TXXR1k by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-08T01:35:09Z
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(1/2)@AnneleiseHall> wore a mask to my local shop yesterday as I have a crappy sneezy coldSince you couldn't avoid leaving the house, that was wise and considerate.> Some dickhead tradie felt emboldened to yell out to me ‘covid is over’That's rude. But tradies being rude is hardly a new problem. Even in Shakespeare's time there were "rude mechanicals" ; )@BobLefridge @CarolynStirling @va2lam @mu
(DIR) Post #AnoklLXTcwItmnNtw0 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-08T01:35:09Z
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@AnneleiseHall> the right wing disinfo machine and people’s aggressive disrespect has basically destroyed any chance of most people wearing masks to preserve other people’s healthThat's one way to tell the story, one that conveniently shifts all responsibility to the ominous "Them". It's also possible people like that are reacting to the constant pressure - and in some cases intense guilt-tripping - coming from a loud minority of pro-maskers. @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling @va2lam @mu
(DIR) Post #Anokvs1Thvi1QeR4DY by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-11-08T01:37:04Z
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@strypey @mu @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling This vaccine doesn't work that way. Maybe there will be nasal vaccines someday that will work that way. The numbers do show that people with the vaccine don't get as sick as people who didn't take the vaccine, but you can't know that from anecdotes.Humans are bad at statistical reasoning, but as a society it is possible to make better decisions, which some societies have done sometimes.
(DIR) Post #AnomDp55U2xVTJFRY0 by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-11-08T01:51:30Z
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@strypey @mu @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling for what it's worth, I hear that masking is currently mandatory in Quebec hospitals, with about 10% of people wearing it under the nose (ie 90% of people not). I bet they're not wearing N95s though.
(DIR) Post #AnorBvThEEiYVFfovY by CarolynStirling@mastodon.nz
2024-11-08T02:47:10Z
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@strypey @AnneleiseHall @mu @BobLefridge @va2lam Actually it’s the other way round. It’s more that masked people are routinely abused by anti maskers. It’s insane.
(DIR) Post #AnovN3xIRwWznV5JaK by mu@mastodon.nz
2024-11-08T03:33:40Z
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@strypey @BobLefridge @va2lam @CarolynStirling some do.
(DIR) Post #AnovonTJKSXUmaHeds by mu@mastodon.nz
2024-11-08T03:39:00Z
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@strypey @va2lam @BobLefridge @CarolynStirling in New Zealand it has killed about a thousand people in the last year, according to official statistics, which is three times the death due to influenza, and almost twice the number that have died by taking their own life.I think it deserves about three times the effort that we put into influenza, and about twice the effort that we put into avoiding suicide. We aren't close to that at the moment.
(DIR) Post #AnpBdYoN5sqDOana64 by AnneleiseHall@mastodon.nz
2024-11-08T06:36:03Z
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@strypey @mu @BobLefridge @va2lam @CarolynStirling whatever Strypey. Maybe people are on the dole because they get sick of being.guilt tripped to get a job.
(DIR) Post #AnrK7rRVZkyZofz3ia by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-11-09T07:20:51Z
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@AnneleiseHall> Maybe people are on the dole because they get sick of being guilt tripped to get a jobSorry, you've lost me.@mu @BobLefridge @va2lam @CarolynStirling