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 (DIR) Post #AnNTx6XCoMxjCEr65w by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T21:49:38Z
       
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       When Reagon won, after Democrats completely abandoned the New Deal as well as its success, they learned the completely wrong lesson and began chasing Republicans further to the right as they believed they needed to appear more moderate in order to win elections. This cycle continues to this day.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNTzu9TJ5Mhf15bG4 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T21:50:05Z
       
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       Nowadays, Third Wave Democrats continue doing the same thing — instead of recognizing that all major losses come from dropping well supported and progressive policies, they continue chasing the new (far right) center. All of this whilst having ironically arrived at doing Reagon era economic politics, which Republicans nowadays call “radical leftism”.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNU3PT9KH2jesxsYa by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T21:50:46Z
       
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       Remember when the entire BLM movement had a singular common denominator, which was “defund the police”? And Joe Biden used the crowd and mass of the movement which got him to be president, only to then, right after being elected, increase police funding more than Trump ever did? Only so that far right news outlets wouldn't slander him so much (which they still did, this plan always fails). Exactly that, over and over. Disappoint your own base, enact Republican's policies, wonder why no one votes for you anymore.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNUBX6CqG9tdg6flg by B_Whitewind@regenerate.social
       2024-10-25T21:52:14Z
       
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       @ErikUden The only playbook they have is how to lose elections. In that it is a master work
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNUFW2AkAh9Uh7RGy by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T21:52:59Z
       
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       Instead of changing this faulty method, Democrats are already preparing to lose the elections and blame third party voters for it. You're so selfish, haven't you recognized that voting for a third party will make Trump win? Hey, moralizing individual voters and shifting the blame to where their vote went, instead of questioning why the Democrats never adopted policies that people would vote for, is exactly the problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNUHsJwqxfHC6YhFY by Erebus_Amauro@ohai.social
       2024-10-25T21:53:35Z
       
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       @ErikUden I use to say that the politic center is like a well where the right goes to wash its face and the left goes to drown.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNULHcLG0kaWFmriK by CStamp@mastodon.social
       2024-10-25T21:53:58Z
       
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       @ErikUden Good for you that no religion or government is coming for your reproductive parts or humanity.  Both sides when one side wants to make one gender less than livestock, because when livestock gets sick, they get vet care.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNUfpjq6dji8R5qHA by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T21:57:42Z
       
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       Meanwhile it's so easy to win the U.S. elections for Democrats. Republicans haven't won the popular vote since 2004. The only way Republicans “win” on paper is by committing voter's fraud. From surgically removing specific democraphics from being able or allowed to vote, to allowing selected councils to delay announcing the result of the vote for days, up to literal Jim Crow era laws some swing states revived.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNUgd1arQ3KzgmDFg by Sh4d0w_H34rt@cyberpunk.lol
       2024-10-25T21:57:43Z
       
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       @ErikUden and there is this which authorizes deadly force toward protestors at the discretion of unit commanders. Right-wingers complained about it, but like every policy change, it will be used almost exclusively on the left.https://stranger.social/@indigenous_commentator/113319948755229463
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNUkculDDwboJUG24 by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
       2024-10-25T21:58:33Z
       
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       @ErikUden There is a non-zero possibility that the set of policies that would get enough folks into the Dem camp is the empty set.Two-party system. If one party is aligned completely behind fascism and the other party is split between people who will never vote for a party that engages in supporting genocide and people who will never vote for a party that would stop supporting Israel, fascism will win.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNUtCfw8cBx2Odvmq by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
       2024-10-25T22:00:05Z
       
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       @ErikUden The only way Republicans “win” on paper is by committing voter's fraudUnfortunately, this is incorrect. Common misconception, but the US system isn't actually set up to let the popular vote determine the President. It's set up to allow the states to choose the President.You don't need voter fraud to lock up the Resolute Desk seat; you just need a few key states that put 100% of their votes behind the majority candidate to split 51/49%.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNVF8Iv4RrtqqKkj2 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T22:04:05Z
       
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       When Trump called the Georgia Republican governor in 2021 to “find 11.780 votes” for him, so he could be president, it was up to this one Republican's own ethics whether or not the democratic elections were overruled. Of course he has since been replaced with a governor loyal to Trump. Far more methods of voter suppression have since been implemented in all swing states. I'm sure another January 6th has been planned already, just in case all of this was not enough.Did Democrats retaliate against this in any way? No... not really. Biden had some strong words against policies like these, but beyond that and blocking a few federal bills, there was nothing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNVPyruUb9FlxsBYu by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T22:06:03Z
       
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       This election is entirely rigged from the beginning. https://youtu.be/mFK0HbHlg_gYou can and should vote with all your might, but if the next presidency doesn't tackle the issue of voter suppression conducted by Republicans, no Democratic leadership can even prevent a full seizing of power by Republicans.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNVWOMobQlAamNyLo by qualityhammer@techhub.social
       2024-10-25T22:07:11Z
       
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       @ErikUden it takes delusion on on par with Trumpers to claim there hasn't been massive movement by democrats in the last 6 years to deliver for the majority of Americans. Meanwhile billionaires backing 3rd party spoiler candidates have used their media to promote an opposite story for the ignorant happy to put on blindfolds and slop it up. Tell me you have no exposure to tru independent objective factual sources without stating it outright.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNVbZA9tKMtWTvtgm by qualityhammer@techhub.social
       2024-10-25T22:08:10Z
       
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       @ErikUden you need an education on the electorial college, swing states and gerrymandering.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNVnFf2E1FqVtwmKe by qualityhammer@techhub.social
       2024-10-25T22:10:16Z
       
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       @ErikUden the governor and elections chief in GA in 2020 are still in their positions now. There have been no changes and it woukd have taken more that a call to get the votes. There are layers of legal checks and balances.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNVuveoTvuMn3VK4W by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T22:11:38Z
       
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       We need to abandon trying to defy the right's definition of us and stop chasing for their approval.They will slander us no matter what, so how about giving them good reasons? I hate making it seem like history repeats itself, but under Reagon, Democrats would often deny being a “liberal” as the word has gotten such a bad connotation by right wing media. Seems familiar, especially when the guy today also uses “Make America Great Again” as his slogan.Stop playing defense, start making change. Stop constantly compromising on, for example, infrastructure bills hoping you'll appear moderate, only to be slandered as an extremist right after. Republicans will do everything in their power to stop such a bill from passing through senate, whilst then promoting it as one of “their” achievements, as governor or for their constituency, when receiving the funds they fought against. It's ridiculous, it's not playing fair, it's contradictory. That's reality, and the strategy the Dems have been following since Reagon is working only in a fantasy world far removed from ours.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNW6u2YJtmTFYJl5c by qualityhammer@techhub.social
       2024-10-25T22:13:47Z
       
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       @ErikUden you're about 2-3 years to late. The party turned a corner and is moving steadily back to the left.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNWAbtzhNb49c5AgK by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T22:14:27Z
       
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       @tsukkitsune “Stop The Steal 2.0”, yeah...
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNWZxelx9TYrd3DCi by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-25T22:19:03Z
       
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       @mark I understand how it works, just that if it's only gerrymandering that makes the other side win elections, meanwhile more people vote for you overall, you're simply not gerrymandering well enough.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNX2y5XQXE4bJOyY4 by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
       2024-10-25T22:23:46Z
       
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       @ErikUden I hear you, but it's a point of philosophy of governance that I don't think people get.The fact that President isn't chosen by "one person, one vote" is a feature of the American system. Appeals to "He lost the popular vote but won the chair" ignore that reality. And you can't gerrymander the Presidency because you can't redraw state borders.I personally think Americans have tired of not electing Presidents by popular vote and would generally support a Constitutional amendment to fix that (though whether they would support such a thing in large enough margin to actually change the Constitution, I do not know). But given that reality, sour-grapes from Americans about the minority-populace candidate being elected President is failure on the part of Americans to know their own history.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNXxCPbMKaxF1bDnc by SNerd@lor.sh
       2024-10-25T22:34:22Z
       
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       @ErikUden https://kolektiva.social/@violetmadder/112770272739522697
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNY3ex69z3vUkLcXo by janisf@mstdn.social
       2024-10-25T22:35:36Z
       
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       @ErikUden After Reagan, all the campaign funds came from steeply Capitalist donors, and at that point, politics were run via media, which was increasing in price.Democrats didn't abandon anything.  They are bridging the gap between having power and not.  This accusation is a bit like being mad at your mom for not fully taking the fatal stab from your abusive father.  (Yes, I'm with Tucker on the analogy, must not the take.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNYZY8T2Vr5cVs7F2 by janisf@mstdn.social
       2024-10-25T22:41:22Z
       
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       @ErikUden The Minneapolis, MN police now have a throughline to mental health and social services.  They also have regular MH check-ins themselves.  Their training programs are no longer entirely military tactics, and include unconcious bias training.  You may be interested to know that one of the former lead trainers in these tactics was contracted to train the IDF.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNZIuvHADjrKCKniq by janisf@mstdn.social
       2024-10-25T22:49:36Z
       
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       @ErikUden The problem isn't Democrat policies, the problem is that they're too detailed, complex, and difficult to communicate for most people to dig into to understand what it takes to be effective.I'm not expecting you to look at Medicare formularies or Mediciad funds and taskflows, but maybe you should.In the mean time, stop demoralizing the people who are trying to work for the disaffected.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNZNKf7PJcWJQslZw by janisf@mstdn.social
       2024-10-25T22:50:24Z
       
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       @ErikUden Yes.  Go look.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNZR68FN8MgPFIopU by nyx@im-in.space
       2024-10-25T22:50:52Z
       
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       @ErikUden "Er ist wieder da", ist er?
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNbCZcNf4BZQ6bDZQ by grishka@friends.grishka.me
       2024-10-25T23:10:52Z
       
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       It's always so cute to see all those discussions about politics in countries where election results aren't predetermined, and where there are multiple legitimately competing forces. Like how does it even work, you vote for someone and your vote actually affects something beyond you feeling good for having done the right thing?
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNes81tVbqExFUxzk by lovelylovely@masto.ai
       2024-10-25T23:51:57Z
       
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       @ErikUden You are ignorant in your understanding of #BLM or the Biden policies on Police reform also it wasn't BLM calling for DEFUND the police" it was the far-left which was criticize heavily by the Democratic party.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNf2tjuykNNowE2iW by StrangeCulprits@c.im
       2024-10-25T23:53:50Z
       
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       @ErikUden Seriously, fuck that bigoted lot, we don't need their approval.We vastly outnumber them. Never forget that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnNgkuNW471CUtISrQ by lolonurse@ohai.social
       2024-10-26T00:13:35Z
       
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       @ErikUden Isn't it odd that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives... always feel defensive about their (our) very decent, noble & hopefully humane ideals. We allow "Conservatives" (what a joke) & Republicans to bully, smear & malign - but it never occurs to us to go on the offensive. We're gentle, they're bullies. We're thoughtful, they are arbitrary & selfish. We need to be proud of our philosophies & goals, not apologetic and meek.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnO3jEQMrUMr2FnfWq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2024-10-26T04:30:26Z
       
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       @ErikUden> if the next presidency doesn't tackle the issue of ... campaign finance corruption ...> conducted by Republicans... (Federalists working with GoP), with the complicity of most Democrat representatives and their people, no democratic movement can even prevent a full seizing of power by corporations. In the short term financial interests of the billionaire feudalist class who own them.https://www.levernews.com/master-plan-ep-6-the-maverick-vs-the-corruption_machine/
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOIAWNnbCC9uTVOy0 by janisf@mstdn.social
       2024-10-25T23:20:00Z
       
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       @ErikUden Please stop before we, who are still hanging with you, fucking give up on the embittered deliberate losers like the Republicans did.  (Voila, Trump, and fascism.)See how that math works?We work together, or this thing doesn't work at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOIAXgyjN8ByFUEV6 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T07:12:20Z
       
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       @janisf Kamala Harris dropped Medicare for All as a talking point when becoming a candidate. The issues aren't too complex to understand, but if she wanted to get elected she'd focus on that (it's one of the policies with major bipartisan support).
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOIFutvrsM7Or6mQK by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T07:13:19Z
       
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       @grishka I voted for the Greens in 2021 in the federal elections in Germany and I have never felt worse about whom I gave my vote ever since 😂And yes, it works exactly like that :P
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOJGxvAE3050ekSY4 by grishka@friends.grishka.me
       2024-10-26T07:24:41Z
       
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       Erik Uden 🥥🌴🍑, I signed for Nadezhdin, and then, when he was denied to run for the president for made-up reasons, I voted for Davankov. Do I feel good for having done both these things? Absolutely. But that's about it. In Russia, you vote to for conscience's sake.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOJHTnTi9rls5Om0m by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T07:24:42Z
       
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       @kelson we can't do anything different because this is the most important election of our lifetime?https://mastodon.de/@ErikUden/112859991333458339Heard that one before.Voting for a third party isn't about sending a message, it's about voting for those who represent you. Blame the Republicans who voted Republican for a Republican president, not the people who voted for a party that represents their ideals best. To claim Kamala simply isn't “perfect sunshine and rainbows” when under the Biden/Harris administration more people were deported than under Trump, she enacted strict and inhumane border policies simply to appeal to moderate Republicans, the Democratic Platform doesn't have a stance against torture anymore, and Harris stopped supporting Medicare for All, is just wrong. That's how a democracy works, you vote for the party that represents you. Oh, it doesn't work like that in the U.S., the election is rigged and “winner takes all” systems prevent third parties from ever achieving anything? So, the Democrats try to change that and make the elections more democratic? Also no. So, all I see is “the system is designed this way so I can claim the only moral thing to do is vote Democrat, while they are moving further and further to the right and you should not oppose that in the slightest because if you do anything else you're indirectly supporting Trump. I mean, you can criticize them, but not during elections, or with protests at the DNC, or in a way that you act differently like vote for a third party...” This stance is simply not how democracy works. It's a well-designed opinion to let the Democrats do whatever they please and never disappoint their corporate sponsors. I've written my opinion on voting for third parties here:https://mastodon.de/@ErikUden/112317115359168819Democrats aren't helping to stop this disaster. They're actively fueling it by supporting the most radical candidates (let's not forget that Clinton once supported Trump as a nominee...) and allowing the Republicans to move further to the right by adopting their policies.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOJSgsTPzopcq54mu by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T07:26:50Z
       
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       @janisf that I did not know!
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOJXkKI1X33lkVD6G by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T07:27:45Z
       
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       @SNerd this exactly. AOC and all the other progressives are puppeteered around whenever we need to believe the Democrats can change.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOKSdWzxZtbCWZf4y by kirschwipfel@nerdculture.de
       2024-10-26T07:38:00Z
       
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       IMHO the main problem is "the winner takes it all" - which inhibits political change.@ErikUden @mark
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOMgHG3lf6G5IHdUe by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T08:02:53Z
       
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       @wwahammy I was actually one of the people canvassing for Bernie in California during the 2020 primaries and I've read his book in which be goes through that presidential election once, so I may have an answer, although I am not an expert.What I recall seems to somewhat align with what factually happened: during that one primary election, where a bunch of states voted at once. Shortly before that happened, all other Democratic candidates dropped out and unilaterally supported Joe Biden. Even those “left” of Bernie like Elizabeth Warren. Bernie lost 42% to whatever Biden got that time.According to Sanders, this was a plan by the Democratic leadership in order to oust the candidate not aligned with their positions. He was the most favored candidate. His positions were those having the most widespread support on both sides (Medicare for All is actually favored among Republicans too). Etc.He didn't win because of this complot against him, he would've won if the game was fair and square.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOdAirnHa6ffITMga by wauz@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T11:07:40Z
       
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       @ErikUdenDer New Deal war erst ab 1935 erfolgreich. Als die USA massiv aufgerüstet haben. Seitdem "lebt" die Volkswirtschaft von Rüstung und Krieg.Biden hat auch nichts anderes gemacht...
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOrHTLQn2huuTRpRo by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T13:45:46Z
       
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       @lolonurse https://youtu.be/MAbab8aP4_A
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOrcHo4so7LCslvCC by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-10-26T13:49:30Z
       
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       @AeonCypher I understand and know what this administration has done. I think too much of it is going in the wrong direction and the rest is too little too late with too many compromises to the far right.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnOzSr59frTtLhm1Xk by cultdev@mastodon.social
       2024-10-26T15:17:23Z
       
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       @ErikUden yeah but i think moreover they just realized they themselves are the ruling class and fascism and extreme right policies serve their personal interests better than left ones do
       
 (DIR) Post #AnP9hWu3ypgqePDnP6 by janisf@mstdn.social
       2024-10-26T17:12:08Z
       
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       @ErikUden I'm working with a Minnesota chapter of what started as M4A, but changed its name to Healthcare for All.  The overlap of mobility, immigration, and any semblance of privacy in the US, along with our tendency to get addicted (Mexican drug cartels are supported by a US market), make an absolute provision of healthcare necessarily global, and infinitely complex, impossible, to organize.This one isn't about wealth.  We can't even get our elections square.97% of MN is covered.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnPBCB8B4xxs3Y0As4 by janisf@mstdn.social
       2024-10-26T17:28:53Z
       
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       @ErikUden Yes, whittling down to a three-character acronym what is arguably the most complex system humanity has ever devised (there's more science on human health than there is on, say, space exploration), is for everyone who's dug into it a non-starter, while the analgesic of an expedient political weapon is, in the end, a lie.The US is a huge, electric, fast-moving, connected mass that leaks in and leaks out knowledge and corruption.  Fascism is the trade off for M4A.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnPJGh4b3lltumzUbw by gabert@troet.cafe
       2024-10-26T18:59:22Z
       
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       @ErikUdenErgo CDU nach Merkel
       
 (DIR) Post #AnPXQPw128j110VXzE by lolonurse@ohai.social
       2024-10-26T21:38:31Z
       
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       @ErikUden Excellent! Depressing as hell, but excellent. Thank you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnnI4GEMUnZezo9OWe by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
       2024-11-07T08:38:49Z
       
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       The cycle I see is that the DemonRats threaten our kids by allowing schools to have bits of their body parts cut off for "gender reaffirmation" which the kids are confused, thus rendering them incapable of having a family of our own.  I'm willing to put up with quite a lot.  If people want to pretend their the wrong gender, if they want to fuck each others butts, I don't care, so long as they leave the kids out of it, but when they start mutilating our children, that's a red line that they've crossed, no more.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnnImp3EOZOfjPC1HE by funbaker@chaos.social
       2024-11-07T08:47:00Z
       
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       @ErikUden "policies that people would vote for"Ja ich weiß nicht, vielleicht sind diese Policies einfach nur Scheiße und die Leute auch?Rechts werden um Rechts zu verhindern funktioniert nicht, sehen wir doch.