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(DIR) Post #AnIMHjqKbPHjTfKVQe by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:29:48Z
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I found a very odd Google search bug/misfeature on android: I've somehow gotten stuck in Brown Mode.It happens in both Firefox and Chrome, and as long as I'm signed into my account, it's brown.
(DIR) Post #AnIMRjHLYTh4chjJya by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:31:38Z
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There's no color theme settings I can find, and while I thought this was a dark mode issue, the dark mode options are quite minimal:
(DIR) Post #AnIMUKOgWME8K5OxGa by adaliabooks@ohai.social
2024-10-23T10:32:18Z
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@foone Looks like some kind of blue light filter mode?
(DIR) Post #AnIMWh7P0ykPN3RjEm by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:32:32Z
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And all three of those options either give me the regular non-dark theme, or the new Brown theme.None give me the Grey Dark Theme, the one I get when I'm logged out.
(DIR) Post #AnIMdVvf0zh6h8CpA8 by jonpearse@front-end.social
2024-10-23T10:33:44Z
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@foone is that Android’s dark/night mode filter? Or some other OS-level dark mode shenanigans? I vaguely remember coming across this on a project a few years ago + it taking far too long to work out what was happening.
(DIR) Post #AnIMg8L7B0JSOzMRKS by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:33:53Z
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@adaliabooks oh god if they're automatically applying that based on dark mode + my location/time, and they just don't know my location when I'm logged out?I hope that's not it.
(DIR) Post #AnIMigNjZyHyYrnlLc by jgullberg@mastodon.social
2024-10-23T10:34:27Z
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@foone looks like some sort of red shift mode for nighttime viewing. Does that track with your configured timezone when logged in?
(DIR) Post #AnIMlEgJ1d1dWDhpEO by ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk
2024-10-23T10:33:06Z
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@foone Modern Android has a feature to adjust themes to match things like the wallpaper image iirc.Let me see if I can find it
(DIR) Post #AnIMlG5rm547tmfki8 by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:34:31Z
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@ben I know about that, it's off, and why would it only apply when I'm logged in?
(DIR) Post #AnIMo5Ohzz7TatplsO by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:35:00Z
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@jgullberg yeah. It might be time based.Terrible if so, but I can imagine it
(DIR) Post #AnIMqTWdGNOf0KgBm4 by ozzelot@mstdn.social
2024-10-23T10:35:10Z
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@foone Play the brown note to quit.
(DIR) Post #AnIMyl8zdnthxrZZI0 by snep@y.diskcat.com
2024-10-23T10:37:32Z
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@foone What device is it? At least on a Pixel with Android 14, there's the option to select an accent color in Settings -> Wallpaper & style which (I think) can also affect font colors in other apps
(DIR) Post #AnIN2CYYBBtxqoAUCG by snep@y.diskcat.com
2024-10-23T10:38:13Z
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@foone @adaliabooks Hmm, in that case, the icons should be brown-tinted too as the filter applied to the entire screen, but shouldn't show up on screenshots!
(DIR) Post #AnIN4Yn8TqJrOK7CCW by MrNuclearMonster@mastodon.social
2024-10-23T10:38:40Z
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@foone I’ve seen a lot of people complaining about this on a tech help forum but didn’t see anyone with a clear reasoning for why it’s happening.
(DIR) Post #AnIN78beIECT31yHVg by saua@troet.cafe
2024-10-23T10:38:53Z
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@foone I know that Google regularly runs A/B experiments on some subset of users, so it could be a case of "it's just you" (and a few thousand others). That seems more likely if it's really just when you're logged in. If that's the case then there's usually no way to turn it off, but it's likely to go away on its own.
(DIR) Post #AnINDi8h5xSuzNYv1U by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:40:17Z
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Grabbed a tablet: logged in or out over there gives me the grey theme (Although it looks bluish there, which could mean everything or nothing).Possibly important note: the tablet is logged into a different Google account
(DIR) Post #AnINREDH9l3UEG9PVY by phire@phire.place
2024-10-23T10:42:45Z
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@foone does your account have any accessibility settings turned on maybe?
(DIR) Post #AnINY4W3bm0oBICOeG by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:44:00Z
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It's been suggested this could be a dynamic coloration based on androids dynamic themeing. Nope, changed my wallpaper to completely different colors.I also tried applying the "color palette" feature (which was off) to make my whole OS pink and blue. Still brown.
(DIR) Post #AnINgdvbpYxiKJEnhI by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:45:32Z
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@phire nope. The only setting is "high contrast colors" which is off
(DIR) Post #AnINkxu7VD0nRIbOaG by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:46:21Z
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@snep it's a galaxy S22, on android 14
(DIR) Post #AnIO5ItLBIeWK2w4wK by dngrs@chaos.social
2024-10-23T10:49:58Z
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@foone @snep seems to be a theme change on google's side, happening to me since last night as well, and I'm on iOS
(DIR) Post #AnIO7grL2azREh8ZMm by gbraad@mastodon.social
2024-10-23T10:50:03Z
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@foone@digipres.clubthey have been changing styling on the main page too; like tweaking the fonts (sans-serif ?)... perhaps they misconfigured something?
(DIR) Post #AnIOFnkfIbWevesqIa by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:51:53Z
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Same for the OS-level dark mode. I had it on, but turning it off (and turning on the Google-search settings dark mode) still gives me brown.
(DIR) Post #AnIONbr7PaGwLpcpYO by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:53:18Z
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Also not affected by if Firefox's dark mode is off or on.
(DIR) Post #AnIOSsbqY7Lzl9zkeG by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:54:17Z
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I'm starting to think we have too many dark mode switches.You should have one, not multiple intricately nested ones, but I fully understand why it's not easy to make it work that way.
(DIR) Post #AnIOelwv8Z7iZwWUJk by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:56:25Z
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Annoyingly this is only happening on my personal account, so I'm not set up to easily lie to Google about where I am or what time it is.
(DIR) Post #AnIOkAVBHKzAAv7Z5c by Poslovitch@wikis.world
2024-10-23T10:57:22Z
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@foone Sounds like the redshift mode. It usually is time-based (nighttime) but a recent update has made it so that it is applied all the time. It's not an issue for me as it was actually a "bad thing" that it worked only at night, but I can understand it can be distracting.
(DIR) Post #AnIOmnGy6JT702j14C by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-10-23T10:57:27Z
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@foone ⚪ light mode⚪ dark mode⚪ inverted light mode⚪ inverted dark mode⚪ inverted mode⚪ negative light mode⚪ negative dark mode⚪ negative inverted light mode🔘 negative inverted dark mode⚪ negative mode⚪ negative inverted mode
(DIR) Post #AnIOpnKcL2uC3DrYZs by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:58:24Z
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@Dany nah, because that would affect the UI of the Browser/OS as well. Plus, why would it only be in effect when I'm logged in?
(DIR) Post #AnIOxEfT6KVCrOADa4 by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T10:59:44Z
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It's not the "eye comfort shield" blue-light filter either. When that's on, the UI of the Browser and OS are affected, not just Google, and Google looks different: this is a clear theme, not just a full screen color filter.
(DIR) Post #AnIPE2uO4jZfJP9qV6 by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:02:44Z
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For my final test, I need to wait until it's "a time Google thinks I should be awake" in my timezone, because right now my leading theory is that Google is applying their own blue-light-filter by switching into a second THIRD SEARCH SKIN based on the current timezone + location.And when I log out*/use private browsing/use incognito: it doesn't know my location to personalize it to.*haven't actually tried logging out, just private modes. I hope that is not an oversight.
(DIR) Post #AnIPUAsWDAGIfByTQG by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:05:41Z
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It is way too "I have been awake for 20 hours" for me to attempt logging back into my Google account without accidentally deleting everything and forgetting all my passwords and my mother's maiden name*.* hey what if I have two dads, neither of which changed their name? It's the 90s, it's possible! These poor kids can never have a quite-shitty password-reminder!
(DIR) Post #AnIR0gArUPFYwkcLwm by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:22:42Z
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@lritter you forgot:⚪ Brown
(DIR) Post #AnIR56hymIXyOoDfbk by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-10-23T11:23:32Z
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@foone ah, the warty warthog setting
(DIR) Post #AnIRIfjTs0SIn0OFCy by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:26:02Z
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It's also possible there is nothing at all I can do that affects this, and it's just some A/B testing that one of my accounts got in the segment for and the other didn't.
(DIR) Post #AnIRuorONl1e6PHSNs by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:32:54Z
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In 1948, B. F. Skinner's "Superstition in the Pigeon" showed that if you fed pigeons at completely random times, they would still try to predict when they'd be fed. Absent any information or pattern for when they'll be fed, they become "superstitious".The repeat specific behaviors, turning in place, waving, pecking at a specific spot on the floor...
(DIR) Post #AnIS24UwdgS4d6Ess4 by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:34:13Z
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They do this, he asserts, because they're trying to repeat the meaningless actions that happened the last time they "won", and got fed.It's like a lucky pair of pants you always wear when your team wins.
(DIR) Post #AnISB0egIRPvJj3Txg by pointingdevice@social.restless.systems
2024-10-23T11:35:48Z
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@foone I got regular dark mode today at around 8:00 UTC while logged in but clearly neither in browser, device or outside dark mode.
(DIR) Post #AnISIU3rMbfEXtOczI by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:37:12Z
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In both cases, there's no action that leads to the win condition, and no information to accurately predict the outcome.But both our brains and the pigeon's brain don't work like that. They assume there are patterns and tries to find them. They assume it's not just all random and unpredictable.That's usually a good thing! It clearly is very useful, for both us and pigeons, to figure out the patterns... because usually there are!
(DIR) Post #AnISXkNOzDOPURoamm by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:39:57Z
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Many things are related and predictable. Basic physics for example: if a thing is in the air, it will fall down. Get out of the way.Definitely a pattern there!(Although you may need to adjust for the "flying" loophole)
(DIR) Post #AnISnt2mWqfv0Mrl7Q by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:42:50Z
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That's why we evolved a "pattern finding" brain. Because there's patterns in the world, and recognizing them is useful.Anyway, I think of those pigeons, spinning in place, perhaps praying to some God of Food Pellets they invented, and how they don't know there's no pattern and all there actions are meaningless. The cruel scientist man built this game so you can't win, and worse: you don't know you can't win, so you have to keep trying.
(DIR) Post #AnISxOKXZlr0e0hl4a by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:44:37Z
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I thing about them and how I've been doing professional "computer stuff" for like two and a half decades now and BOY does it feel like we're spinning pigeons a frightening amount of the time.
(DIR) Post #AnIT2xFVAzogOI06cK by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T11:45:27Z
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Anyways, A/B testing: because gaslighting is cool if you do it in parallel at scale!
(DIR) Post #AnITeOdAKoqK1nvHEm by emilvolk@furry.engineer
2024-10-23T11:52:17Z
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@foone the Chinese SF author Cixin Liu had a twist on this where turkeys were fed at a predictable time of day, eventually a turkey scientist makes a model that predicts when the turkeys will come. The day after they come up with the model all the turkeys are killed and eaten.
(DIR) Post #AnIV3K3OaYsF1idono by hattifattener@wandering.shop
2024-10-23T12:07:49Z
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@foone Have you read "House of Stairs"? It made a bit of an impression on me as a kid. The author's other stuff was similarly intense if I recall.
(DIR) Post #AnIVYVq8olQ8YfJXeK by timkingman@mastodon.social
2024-10-23T12:13:14Z
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@foone Spinning Pigeons would be a great name for a blog/consultancy/niche hardware maker/ska band, and all the domains are available.
(DIR) Post #AnIVvtNvRcPoF3GTyq by UpLateGeek@bitbang.social
2024-10-23T12:17:56Z
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@foone you could do what I did when they removed paginated search result pages and replaced it with the much worse infinite scrolling/load more results, send them a feedback complaining about it. Took them ages to fix it, but I eventually got my proper paginated results back.
(DIR) Post #AnIWPN2sFLk2d7TTxQ by guyjantic@c.im
2024-10-23T12:23:14Z
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@foone Are you sure it's not because you've clicked literally all the links on the internet already?
(DIR) Post #AnIXsI5bqqKvbz6lKi by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T12:39:36Z
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@hattifattener yeah, one of my favorite books as kid. I've owned three distinct copies.
(DIR) Post #AnIYzqsczzf5UhCnOS by Ongion@mendeddrum.org
2024-10-23T12:51:44Z
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@foone I've noticed this once myself. It happened when I hit the "More search results" button, and then changed back when I hit it again, which is probably the only reason I noticed it.
(DIR) Post #AnIZHPyHmeFhFbEBu4 by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T12:55:24Z
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@SnyperWolf yeah! Switched out of dark mode, set a different wallpaper, rebooted to the same brown.
(DIR) Post #AnIZyafjsF2itI8g9g by Blisterexe@fosstodon.org
2024-10-23T13:03:12Z
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@foone i would suggest that the brown theme looks significantly better than yhe default blue.Also ddg lets you choose a custom theme
(DIR) Post #AnIac84Hdu19lBTOCG by 1st_C_Lord@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-10-23T13:10:17Z
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@foone this is what exposure to AI and "algorithms" does to the human brain except instead of food, it's anxiety
(DIR) Post #AnIbgOi1oUiAU3f8To by adaliabooks@ohai.social
2024-10-23T13:22:41Z
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@foone I had a poke about in all the various Google settings I could find and I can only swap between light and dark modes, nothing makes it brown.A/B testing of some kind does seem the most likely answer, though very hard to be sure if that is the case.
(DIR) Post #AnIi8VAPzoiCLVj4fQ by schwuld00d@woof.group
2024-10-23T14:34:34Z
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@foone sounds like the Republican Party to me.
(DIR) Post #AnIieShCif0rwrIjIm by truh@shark.community
2024-10-23T14:40:24Z
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@foone Google decided not to offer me SMS as a second factor any more because of safer alternatives which is fair I guess. Problem is that none of the alternatives work. It's either "verify by clicking accept on the Android device you no longer have" or "verify by creating a OTP in the account settings of the Android device that isn't even connected to Google services any more".
(DIR) Post #AnIr7R3EiE5YsXvuRE by billseitz@toolsforthought.social
2024-10-23T16:15:15Z
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@foone an old twitter thread of mine https://twitter.com/BillSeitz/status/1538327133566771202
(DIR) Post #AnJ4KgU3warJuY82aW by mcgrew@dice.camp
2024-10-23T18:43:17Z
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@foone my only thought is the "Wallpaper & Style" settings on Android. There are some system level color settings there. The default was a brown theme when I set up this phone.If not that then I have no idea.
(DIR) Post #AnJNjzhlW3nztPJvDU by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-23T22:20:45Z
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Still brown at 3:20pm. So it's not time based.
(DIR) Post #AnK6JhW119Ztt3f2FE by chris@coffeebean.social
2024-10-23T11:21:47Z
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@foone I couldn't for the life of me figure out why certain bar codes that needed scanning were showing up so strangely in Firefox, then realized I'd probably switched on a dark reader extension on a desktop session. That turned out to be the culprit (for me). Hadn't even realized that the extension also applied to mobile.
(DIR) Post #AnKESQrH7JKwSvHNRI by lunarloony@dosgame.club
2024-10-24T08:11:19Z
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@foone This is an odd toot without context.
(DIR) Post #AnKhvy7dQ2SYhTMrOS by redux@fosstodon.org
2024-10-24T13:41:44Z
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@foone why is the circle misaligned :blobcatonfire: