Post An1O2E9b2Lbh4XkmWW by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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 (DIR) Post #An0nABzjFfqqO94aX2 by seanking@kazv.moe
       2024-10-14T23:06:34.240014Z
       
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       @48kRAM From reading this, Stallman sounds like the kind of guy who would defend P. Diddy.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1AR0aDEN2Irg7pj6 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:27:21.153502Z
       
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       we're back with this narrative againthey really badly want to skinsuit the FSF
       
 (DIR) Post #An1AqFiU6OY52X22Oe by thegreatape@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:31:55.921913Z
       
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       @icedquinn I don't think women are avoiding the fsf cause of stallman but lol at this poster. I'm still not removing my GNU or fsf stickers from my laptop :acat_flower:
       
 (DIR) Post #An1AuprVeiW2IlRFtQ by thegreatape@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:32:45.473671Z
       
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       @icedquinn double posting to say how ridiculous it is they call the GNU code of conduct thingy to be transphobic lol.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1AyMLrJiK9w1JZSq by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:33:23.247134Z
       
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       @thegreatape yeah its such an irrelevant thing that i don't trust them at all. there's literally whole orgs dedicated to coddling women's egos and shit.somebody wants the FSF bad and RMS is a complete stopper to them being able to do it.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1B5XgTa6E96pNosi by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:34:41.089608Z
       
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       @thegreatape i haven't read it. haven't really cared what gnu does in a long time.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1BCgsrm6MRfXaTCK by thegreatape@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:35:58.704943Z
       
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       @icedquinn he's got cancer RN too and all of this is nothing new. Once a year they bring the same stuff out to see if they can make it happen
       
 (DIR) Post #An1BG6dGV1qeOXv0JU by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:36:35.587224Z
       
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       @thegreatape you have to be supremely autistic to stand up to society and say you're not going to take the money and sell everyone else down the river:blobcatgoogly:
       
 (DIR) Post #An1BNsaQbZyV9KIXoG by ned@noauthority.social
       2024-10-15T03:38:00Z
       
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       @icedquinn "Richard Stallman's political program of sexual violence" wtf does that even mean? Sounds like bs to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1BNsamaGG5AQSpMW by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T03:37:59.689281Z
       
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       @icedquinn @thegreatape there's literally whole orgs dedicated to coddling women's egos and shit.This is all performative. I don't understand why people continue to not listen when women time and time again say they do not feel safe or comfortable in tech, let alone the free software movement. I just had a talk with someone about this, and while I don't think Stallman is the root of the problem, he is just one example of how the movement is riddled with misogyny and out of touch white males. Because that's exactly what it is. I am already a minority within the minority of women in the field, who are primarily white or asian to begin with. I would feel much more at ease if people just admitted that my experiences don't matter to them. The same way I've called out racism on here from leftists while their friends turn a blind eye to it.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1BXVr3yZ0ZXnfl7g by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T03:39:44.629076Z
       
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       @thegreatape @icedquinn The free software movement and the tech bro community as a whole is more pro-trans rights than women's rights.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Bo47WLTnuRxGODg by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
       2024-10-15T03:42:41.201767Z
       
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       @icedquinn they want to cuck the GPL i bet
       
 (DIR) Post #An1BqtlHJcaXBwD6zA by parker@cawfee.club
       2024-10-15T03:43:14.373297Z
       
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       @icedquinn The OSS people (Microsoft) in FOSS want to get rid of the F.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1BtLLJjw8bJREWci by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:43:41.404458Z
       
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       @teratology @thegreatape i think a lot of foss people have the biggest shrug, because unlike venture capital there is literally no approval required to run your own project. there is literally nothing whatsoever to stop women from writing bash scripts.a lot of it comes down to stuff that women don't like, but is irrelevant to men, like if somebody just says mean words to a man they're pretty much expected to cope and carry on.i've been watching a lot of this from the sidelines for a long time and to a limited extent there's just like... idk. some of its just tribal differences, once you remove the -actual- assaults etc
       
 (DIR) Post #An1C3fiqp9EtPlAM9w by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T03:45:32.393659Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @thegreatape I'm willing to believe you because you seem to be truthful (this might sound awful though but idk how to say it better)anyway, how/why do they not feel safe?
       
 (DIR) Post #An1C67TAdF0o38zyoy by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:46:00.257817Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @thegreatape I don't think he can help the way he is. People like him need a place too. We should go back to taking these guys and sticking them in a dark back room where they can hack and are never expected to interact with other employees.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1CAHkSME8d5T4QaG by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T03:46:19.796495Z
       
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       @thegreatape @icedquinn grim is my prognosis
       
 (DIR) Post #An1CEc4EknCZGQO0ci by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:47:32.055592Z
       
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       @sun from what i recall its mostly the same generic complaints; people assuming women are bad at the job, constant advances etc.i mean yes in the physical jobs there has been much worse in the past@thegreatape @teratology
       
 (DIR) Post #An1CKfKrW2Jp8a356G by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:48:37.631455Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @thegreatape @teratology corporate shadowbanning. put him in a building with the other people like him, a pvp building basically.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1CS3Y9sx5eGRnAPY by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:49:57.410445Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @thegreatape @teratology honestly a lot of problems with the autists is society has systemically erased all of the 'approved' forms of pair bonding.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Ce9d36sdganqfA0 by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:52:09.256014Z
       
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       @icedquinn @thegreatape @teratology I am of course sympathetic to women but I can't help also feeling sympathetic to him. I was like this but learned how to not be like this, but some people are more inflicted than I was and can't ever fully adapt.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1CidQaGBqoAe9dKK by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:52:57.583237Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @thegreatape @teratology well what are you supposed to do, I am still sympathetic but it's true that he can be off-putting and kind of an asshole. You can't just make everybody suffer through that.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1CkpbFyXCGV8C4qO by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:53:21.385882Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @thegreatape @teratology everyone who ever mattered was an asshole thoughkinda required
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Crjkc7WzYO5raqm by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T03:54:35.558228Z
       
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       @sun @icedquinn @thegreatape I just want to make it clear that RMS is the least of women's problems in the industry. I think that there is more to say about people who defend him and his retarded thoughts without question, but as a whole we do live in a patriarchal society and I think that this network loves to avoid why people of gender are more over represented than women like me. Some food for thought.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1CrlNe3to7RR8HKK by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:54:36.989592Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @thegreatape @teratology rms is an alpha autist, a lot of people have less abilities and are bigger assholes.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1DGnfigAR7mvWcyG by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T03:59:07.817026Z
       
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       @icedquinn @thegreatape a lot of it comes down to stuff that women don't like, but is irrelevant to men, like if somebody just says mean words to a man they're pretty much expected to cope and carry on.I have gone on my merry way a lot of the time. I've been harassed and sexually harassed by people in the free software community. Even in corporate environments as a 18 year old I've had CEOs openly tell me that they believe women are intellectually inferior right after hiring me. It is no surprise that misogyny is rampant in tech, when it is so pervasive in women's everyday lives. People say mean and fucked up shit to me all the time, for the sole reason that I am a Brown Woman. Nobody comes to bat for me and I don't expect them to. But to act as if women as a whole are coddled or a protected class in tech is a reflection of misogyny.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1DICzE2sjWacJvxA by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T03:59:23.387146Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @thegreatape @teratology they're assholes about even things that don't matter, like the guy who makes a monty python quote and you say "oh I like monty python too" and he asks you which movie you think is best, then snaps "that's wrong, the best monty python movie was 'the meaning of life'"
       
 (DIR) Post #An1DIJPg9RSUWOk91E by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T03:59:23.476710Z
       
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       @teratology @sun @thegreatape i mostly defend him in the sense that he put in the work (at least, backwhen.) his opinions on most stuff is kind of irrelevant to the argument of evicting corporate colonization of technology.even some of the punishments were nonsense. he was punished for defending a dead colleague from pedophilia claims and it turned out in court documents he was indeed correct that the colleage refused sex with underaged women.they just have it out for the guy, really
       
 (DIR) Post #An1DOlD5iR3wTBvjvs by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
       2024-10-15T04:00:34.612219Z
       
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       @sun That’s when you force him to watch all of Thunder in Paradise@icedquinn @arcana @thegreatape @teratology
       
 (DIR) Post #An1DTVzphwk0jUzoiu by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:01:25.656473Z
       
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       @teratology @thegreatape :gutkato_kjooo: i've been fired for saying so much less. lol
       
 (DIR) Post #An1DTdJwTZzBRtSTXU by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T04:01:27.608666Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @thegreatape @teratology I think life of brian is best but some people think it's too polished and mainstream. of course holy grail is best
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Dq8sZp3ZhhHOKhM by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:05:30.263972Z
       
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       @teratology @thegreatape basically said the golden boy was bad at teamwork and was stalling people's jobs and management went assmad.can't imagine getting away with saying something genuinely rude.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1DzE6tk8YUWjQDgW by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:07:09.189954Z
       
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       @icedquinn @thegreatape maybe if they were buddies with the CEO? Aside from my Indian project manager I was the only WoC in the building and the accountant would bully us both. It was jarring and a toxic workplace environment. They hired a Mexican man to replace me and he just took over my desk without asking and everyone backed up that behavior. Product manager was a friend of the CEO and that's why he could get away with throwing paperwork on our desks before 5pm.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Em3n4trsyi7R9BQ by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T04:15:59.327137Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @thegreatape @teratology silicon valley success is mostly gatekept by VC money, that comes with strings attached. It's possible to succeed as a garage business but it's not the norm so you can't really appeal to that. it's one thing if someone is untintentionally rude to you making a hostile work environment, it's another when somebody actively impedes your success because of a bias
       
 (DIR) Post #An1EtgL5yXYCIIyyjg by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:17:20.996014Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @thegreatape @teratology its pretty weird to watch the people who only know VC dance for the rich tactics dying on the streets now because the VCs have decided they want to invest in bombs now instead of video games.the bootstrappers are still functioning just fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1F39ZaecvjZFHLKC by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:19:04.464889Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @teratology @thegreatape it was so wild to read post mortems of a game where they were in early access, hadn't even done polish passes over gameplay, but already had some leading anime studio out of straya drawing intro videos and shit and their whole plan was "we'll do series-b after three months" and then the debtlords were like:gummysip: lol byelike the whole game industry is collapsing rn because only the autistic little indies are self-owned
       
 (DIR) Post #An1FO5KvbIS0VeOxg8 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:22:51.326954Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @thegreatape I don't care how long ago it was, but it's sickening how normalized it is to gloss over an autists' longwinded blogpost defending child rape. If it wasn't for him retracting it back in 2019, people would still be defending him because of "cancer", or because of his undeniable contributions to the free software movement. On the surface, people here talk mad game about wanting to kill nonces but don't bring the same energy once it's their favorite RMS. I'm not surprised in the least, but it's still disgusting. When I was 14/15 I was still a fan, as a grown woman I'm extremely disappointed in him since learning of these posts and the free software movement as a whole, but that's just a small window inside the sexism, misogyny, and double standards in the tech community towards women as a whole. I was mistreated and treated horribly by a handful of racist or sexist professors in undergrad as well. I've only had one female professor, I am not lying and I don't care if anyone believes me. I also do recognize that it wasn't always like this and that women dominated computing prior to WWII, but the scientific community has also downplayed women's contributions and work (Rosalind Franklin for example). Even in the USSR, doctors were paid less when women dominated the field. This shit in programming is just an extension of the many ways it is a man's world.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Fhr2YSoDnxhEbFg by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:26:25.193157Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @sun @thegreatape I do that but in the end I still get weirdos like NEETzche dm me about how I am a DEI hire and how it's so hard for the white man to not be able to trust if women or PoC are capable workers. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. If I am taking up space, I might as well make people uncomfortable if they hold prejudiced views. I just wish there was more community for women in FOSS because I know a lot more on the corporate end of things :firefox:
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Ftk81zFVy06Ssbo by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:28:34.848931Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @sun @thegreatape I would say they’re more over represented because more of them actively get into it and are loudWhy do you think that is?
       
 (DIR) Post #An1G1poCkfw1vz38Ou by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:30:02.592094Z
       
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       @icedquinn @sun @thegreatape I do recognize his contributions but yeah I agree that his stuff is so irrelevant at this point. I guess there's no attention of men invading the Grace Hopper conferences.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1GKOXgLtces3Agwi by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:33:23.929972Z
       
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       @teratology @mischievoustomato @thegreatape women did not really dominate computing. programming was seen as secretarial work, because they were just typing machine code in to a console after the male academic did all the design work on a blackboard.computer workers in general were held with a much higher degree of respect as men of science though.if i recall RMS' point it was more to do with how society assigns an arbitrary number to adulthood, one that societies don't even organically agree with. to a point you can't even ask them how they derive these dates either because its just kind of arbitrarily set. so whether something is legally pedophilia has a different result in the USA as it does the virgin islands, to japan, or those weird german states where age of consent is like 12, or France where age of consent is "whatever the judge feels like today"its one of those things that is philosophically correct but a normal person's need to pass compliance tests would compel them to shut up and go yup law says this, weathers great innit
       
 (DIR) Post #An1GO0GkXbAukOyKeW by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:34:03.112535Z
       
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       @teratology @mischievoustomato @thegreatape it is accurate that women were more prevalent in tech in the 1960s, but they were not equals.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1GgmDT0uB4fIO98i by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:37:26.035380Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @sun @thegreatape People aren’t rising through merit currently, they’re complaining about equity and playing oppression Olympics.The idea that I don't go through technical interviews and hoops with HR is verifiably false. I have never gotten a job through "oppression olympics". Society is patriarchal as a whole and I can't expect it's effects on the industry to change when so many people are willing to frame women as "victims" who just happen to get turned off tech by hostile work environments and autistic weirdos.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Gt9iVSrkD1foGVU by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:39:39.890075Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @sun @thegreatape Black and Latina women are still heavily under represented. My roommate was told by Google to disclose that she was Black because her name made her sound like she was a white man.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1GzWjYniI09KLBUO by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:40:49.313410Z
       
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       @teratology @arcana @sun @thegreatape it really depends on region and corporation size. EEOC reporting doesn't apply until like 30+ employees, and ESG doesn't apply until fink money is on the table.some finance corps have been staying delibrately under the limits, so they retain full control of hiring & internal privacy
       
 (DIR) Post #An1H9TmOdiAVsnPf4S by bzdev@fosstodon.org
       2024-10-15T00:30:04Z
       
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       @48kRAM I blocked "The Stallman Report" because (a) it was attributed to "anonymous editors",  (b) allegations in some of the replies sounded like things that should have been reported to the police, so if they weren't contacted or did not find it credible, the obvious question is "why", and (c) the whole matter seemed to pop up out of nowhere.Allegations should not be anonymous unless there is a credible reason to believe that there could be some non-trivial retaliation.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1H9UzY8IHfdsZgDA by Nentuaby@wandering.shop
       2024-10-15T01:56:13Z
       
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       @bzdev @48kRAM The entire report is one massive pile of citations. They're not claiming anything based on personal authority. Why would their anonymity discredit that?
       
 (DIR) Post #An1H9Xyb2IIutn9Sds by bzdev@fosstodon.org
       2024-10-15T02:05:34Z
       
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       @Nentuaby @48kRAM You missed the point, which was basically, given all the ridiculous allegations going around these days - like meteorologists controlling hurricanes - when I see something where the "editors" are "anonymous", why would I bother reading it?  How would they be threatened? It's not like Trump being able to ban someone from his country club (assuming anyone even cared).It  is not about Richard Stallman. It is about a simple filter to avoid wasting my time.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1H9YwrQEVfuhLaZk by Nentuaby@wandering.shop
       2024-10-15T02:10:16Z
       
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       @bzdev @48kRAM Gonna be blunt: a filter that you won't read careful citations unless they're also backed by assertion of personal authority is fully, 180° ass-backwards.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1HMMrff08iCX1eim by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T04:44:57.824393Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @thegreatape @teratology I  think it's 12 employees now
       
 (DIR) Post #An1HPamyLZDYFsMjAG by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:45:32.364760Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape I mean in the states when it comes to hiring I do not disclose my disability, or race/ ethnicity. I give as much little info as possible. A state job tried to ask for my sexuality too but I declined. No photo on resume. My name can be a giveaway unfortunately but I can't control that.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1HfxpYRjNWLoNcbg by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:48:29.780854Z
       
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       @eemmaa @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology surprisingly, people want to feel like they were good enough to get the job.part of why affirmative action and now DEI were total disasters
       
 (DIR) Post #An1HgdjIfNKaIZmDgm by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:48:37.409232Z
       
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       @eemmaa @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape it feels icky and weird to me, and I also don't trust to not be discriminated against because of my disability so I only disclose after signing on lol
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Hn3gZ4lcyXLYegK by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:49:46.685163Z
       
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       @teratology @arcana @eemmaa @sun @thegreatape don't want to disclose disabilities before being hired, no. you do have to after being hired though if you want to be able to invoke the disabilities act at a later date.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1HprXig7wLkIl33I by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:50:17.416866Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @sun @thegreatape the affirmative action lawsuit in the states was hilarious and it was an asian that ruined it because his shitty G.P.A was rejected by an ivy league. Legacy admissions have just started being banned at some universities. There was a scandal with USC too a few years ago.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1I1SGCVK8yoB5i4G by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T04:52:23.096934Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape legacy admissions are good because alumni subsidize underprivileged admittancesthe asian AA thing is funny because they were basically like "why are we getting fucked by this, we're not even white we don't have to put up with this shit" everybody knows the score lol
       
 (DIR) Post #An1I5qXIBpQvFxBCTI by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:53:09.990574Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape @teratology well asians are legally white now, according to the insane people who run the DEI programs.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1IIloh30ICNsTuIi by iska@catposter.club
       2024-10-15T04:55:28.996Z
       
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       @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @icedquinn@blob.cat @thegreatape@shitposter.world The "women spaces" question would be simpler if "transphobia" was accepted
       
 (DIR) Post #An1IJU1IhUWNTiib3o by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
       2024-10-15T04:55:38.595294Z
       
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       @teratology It was easier to get men to pretend to be women than to get women to program well@icedquinn @thegreatape
       
 (DIR) Post #An1IJkqw7HKdgV03lY by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:55:41.474720Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @sun @thegreatape but the guy who was behind that lawsuit got rejected by harvard for having less than a 4.0 , DEI folks only consider east asians white anyways
       
 (DIR) Post #An1ISAXUUzwNfLutvc by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T04:57:11.421209Z
       
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       @leyonhjelm @thegreatape @teratology women in tech tend to be paid contractors, they don't tend to work on public works for free.a tiny sliver do, though they're pretending to be men online so they won't get flirted at.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1ITCcgEm7SPypwu0 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T04:57:23.539778Z
       
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       @leyonhjelm @icedquinn @thegreatape you say this as if you're not an a woman's instance that is really run by her boyfriend 🤔I can program and run my own servers just fine, there's just a lot less of us.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1IYwLdey15gDbMlU by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T04:58:26.377511Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape he basically had no chance because the ivys won't let you in if you're asian on GPA alone anyway, you have to have a high GPA plus some other thing. the thing can't even be stereotypically asian, like being good at piano. Like if you are Asian and are good at lacrosse then you'll get in, this stuff came out in the lawsuit. This is almost 100% analogous to how Jews used to be kept out.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Il7y2HkL3BwNBw0 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:00:38.438207Z
       
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       @sun interviews etc were found to primarily for gatekeeping the schools image yeah.@arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape @teratology
       
 (DIR) Post #An1InYInLO4TRlEt7I by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:01:04.763516Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @eemmaa @teratology @thegreatape i mean its all control grid stuff, peasants aren't supposed to be able to get in.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1InmxMrKqOteKUIi by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
       2024-10-15T05:01:07.538403Z
       
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       @teratology I’m not. @icedquinn @thegreatape
       
 (DIR) Post #An1IpC8iiMcRI3JHZg by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T05:01:22.390153Z
       
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       @sun @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape I mean it isn't surprising but that's how it is in public schools here too, such as UCLA. When I was in highschool we all knew competitive programs required more, esp for impacted majors. Ivy Leagues are historically racist too. I think legacy admissions and bribing admissions should be banned and illegal. Celebrities here were caught bribing other private and public universities but there is more panic about affirmative action when it's illegal where I live.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1IyZiyOdq12jjwFE by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:03:03.916308Z
       
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       @arcana @eemmaa @sun @teratology @thegreatape peasants go to the common core brain rotting facilities to receive exactly enough diseducation to serve as resource extractors and be unable to process thoughts.the pedagogs get the middle-rate schools (harvard, yale, etc) because they actually need a handful of smart people to run all the control shit.the big chonks go to like, a single christian school that does not participate in any of the nonsense (like 80% of presidents have all gone to this ONE religious school) because they get the real education:neocat_woozy:
       
 (DIR) Post #An1J3JtmfBAvPP3iue by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:03:55.484872Z
       
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       @Lyx @icedquinn @PurpCat behind the attack on richard stallman the FSF and the GPL??   Fuck no.  I am a proud FSF member for over 20 years and a vocal proponent of stallman even when this moral panic first started. https://shitposter.world/notice/An0B4GiP1ng82kqjU8I am in favour of reforming the GPL into a GPL4 but along the lines proposed by @mattskala ie #elevenfreedoms instead of 4
       
 (DIR) Post #An1JWQHa0W7Bbc4CSe by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:09:11.210786Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape to some extent people accept that money will get you an advantage. you're not really competing with them, they're already in.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1JdQiAoLGKxlqZAO by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:10:26.340242Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape @teratology i wanted to go to MIT :comfyaww: somewhat comfortable with never having been, considering those schools are magnet programs to whisk people off to where they can't cause any real damage.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Jo2Ygx2eNEuTHk0 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:12:22.030892Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @eemmaa @teratology @thegreatape if i recall MIT was one of the least corrupt ones in the end. legacies were worth the least there, but being a STEM school the testing requirements are extremely demanding.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1JrM5OnxcWfiLngO by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:12:58.183986Z
       
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       @arcana @eemmaa @sun @teratology @thegreatape i bet if you pulled the records most of the famous inventors did not have 4.0 GPAs, even though schools gatekeep for this :blobcatlaugh:
       
 (DIR) Post #An1K0AiyPthS2Z47Ae by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:14:33.957202Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape @teratology so the reason that all the ivys and MIT, who dumped standardized tests during COVID now have almost all gone back to it, and the reason that they are dumping AA, is it just plain was a failed experiment and they knew it.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1KFot7N6AgwvGueW by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:17:23.825279Z
       
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       @Lyx @PurpCat @icedquinn @mattskala actually i've got a list of other things that need addressing* GPL4 should make clear that source code should be provided in plaintext not PNG files (this is one of those obvious legal hacks that shouldn't be necessary but totally is, looking at you andrew torba). ie a manner of standard convenience for the user depending on the technology of the day.* GNU Affero should be opt-out not opt-in* What happens if SJWs get in charge of the FSF?  The GPL should be hardened against that possibility* I agree with eben moglen that we haven't fully thought out allowing GPL code to spy on users / allowing spyware -- an anti-spyware provision similar to the GPL3 'users must have the key' would make a lot of sense* I agree with richard stallman (2001 nyu speech) that a future GPL (GPL4) could address the power differential between users of mobile systems in some way, that functionally gives more power to users* ...also there's something about movfuscation that needs to be addressed imho.* I think there's something inherently broken about forges that the GPL doesn't quite address. the github problem* Freedom 0 requires the freedom to shield what program you are running from the government / authority.  Without such basic privacy, you can't run the program as you wish.  Merely running in the presence of state surveillance is not enough imho* @sun had a suggestion on the old SPC but i forget what it was now.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1KNSsT5dIJ0Ac5Ro by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:18:45.371768Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @PurpCat @Lyx @mattskala @sun > shielding against the governmentyou can't use a government's laws to protect you from government overreach. there is a point where crypto and language tricks are no longer suitable and you have to pick up a shotgun
       
 (DIR) Post #An1KkfUSMW7EmPRjIu by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:22:58.326340Z
       
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       @icedquinn @PurpCat @Lyx @mattskala @sun sure.  but at the same time the value of freedom rings true through the GPL.  If for example the government of The United States or something requires spyware as a condition of running a computer, the GPL can explicitly deal with this situation in some way.  It's like the constitution in that way - even if the US government ignores the constitution, the constitution is still there to charge them with. Even if the SCOTUS decides to scrap the whole thing it's still there waiting to be picked up and implemented later.  The spirit of freedom will never be truly extinguished until the last copy of the GPL is forgotten.  We are not there yet.    And guns aren't the only thing we have to fight governments with.  Many governments including the US government use free software and the courts have approved it as a valid license. or contract?  How is that VMWare lawsuit or whatever on that point going? I don't even know.  Either way our code is helping increase the level of freedom and can continue to do so *if we value it*
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Ko7ltfZDnMTFgCO by mattskala@mstdn.io
       2024-10-15T05:23:20Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @icedquinn @PurpCat @Lyx @sun "Plain text not PNG" should already be covered by the requirement to provide source in the preferred form for making modifications - though I am aware of, and have written about, the point that "should already be covered" is not dispositive of concerns in practice.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Kpitn7HMOnchskS by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:23:51.879805Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @PurpCat @Lyx @mattskala @sun > its like the constitutionthe thing that hasn't been respected since 1942? lol
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Kxvd3fbPkb7nCpk by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:25:21.804767Z
       
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       @icedquinn @PurpCat @Lyx @mattskala @sun oh come off of it. Even I have read enough court rulings in the US to know they cite the constitution all the damn time. They dance around it and drive through loopholes but it's still the law of the land, although Trump wants to change that
       
 (DIR) Post #An1L1LKyXkutCQxl56 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T05:25:58.590526Z
       
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       @mattskala its a problem that has come up in FOIA cases. people requesting local survey data and being given jpegs instead of the geolite files.i haven't seen someone try to get away with png dumping source code personally, but i have seen overt violations (Onyx Boox are deliberate GPL violators) or half-assed compliance (ex. gab, google, prusa, just dumping out random tarball updates when convenient)@jeffcliff @PurpCat @Lyx @sun
       
 (DIR) Post #An1L9RKe8gvu6mfaGO by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:27:26.895070Z
       
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       @icedquinn @PurpCat @Lyx @mattskala @sun i've been waiting now 5 years for my FOIA-equivalent (ATIP) case to give me...anything.  I'm being totally and illegally stonewalled.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1LMgops1uBuA6mno by mattskala@mstdn.io
       2024-10-15T05:29:40Z
       
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       @icedquinn @PurpCat @Lyx @jeffcliff @sun Interesting similar issue on what might be considered the other side, back in the day when people exported cryptographic code printed in hardcopy books in OCR fonts because that was legal and exporting disks or network downloads wouldn't have been.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1MWthsuNV4j4Hx20 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T05:42:53.234628Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @sun @thegreatape I wanted to go there or Caltech but it's not possible really for people like me unless you grew up with the money and connections
       
 (DIR) Post #An1MZXFWrQGRwcHcbQ by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:43:22.085669Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape caltech is loaded with asians because they never discriminated against them!
       
 (DIR) Post #An1MjyP8knO93mkvuS by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:45:15.249195Z
       
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       @sun @teratology @arcana @eemmaa @icedquinn @thegreatape I wonder if that's a consequence of Millikan somehow
       
 (DIR) Post #An1MmGqLAbWIpGZf1M by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T05:45:39.216096Z
       
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       @sun @icedquinn @arcana @eemmaa @thegreatape I hate to break it to you but asians dominate the entire california education system. Even public schools.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1MquWRaOjH2xTpzc by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:46:30.678789Z
       
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       @icedquinn @thegreatape somebody = microsoft
       
 (DIR) Post #An1N7K8u68mF8kIPdQ by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:49:27.410798Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @thegreatape >who are primarily white or asian to begin with. and what's wrong with asians being a majority in the free software movement??there's nothing inherently wrong with that.  that's basic statistics: most people are asian, => most developers are going to be asian => and most FS devs are going to be asian => most female FS devs are going to be asian.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1N9C3b8BSSdshoTA by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
       2024-10-15T05:49:48.856725Z
       
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       @icedquinn If schooling and invention were positively correlated we’d live in a very different world @arcana @eemmaa @sun @thegreatape @teratology
       
 (DIR) Post #An1NDksNcHddn2dLm4 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T05:50:36.577605Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @icedquinn @thegreatape I am merely pointing out that Latina and Black women are still heavily underrepresented. Why does that bother you?
       
 (DIR) Post #An1NT2q17J27qEoqhs by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:53:23.966661Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape RMS is not a 'nonce' wtf
       
 (DIR) Post #An1NpKyINSocS7JyTo by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:57:25.872678Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @thegreatape That's not all you're saying, clearly.  You're saying "the movement is riddled with misogyny and out of touch white males"The movement is *being divided by outsiders and being split among fractionalist lines*.  Most of the repos I touch have no contributors because people are too busy in bullshit threads like this one rather than actual coding.  I would encourage latina and black women to submit me their pull requests and show their worth which I believe is there rather than waste time on race baiting and casual anti-white racism.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1O2E9b2Lbh4XkmWW by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T05:59:45.747040Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape Meanwhile you're going on mute, since you've wasted enough of my time.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1OYQzMqt0W97KJKi by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T06:04:42.971973Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @icedquinn @thegreatape You're saying "the movement is riddled with misogyny and out of touch white males"Yes, and you are a prime example of that. "anti-white racism" lmfaooo. Shut the fuck up. I have zero interest in contributing to open source projects if it's riddled with people like you. not join in on witch hunts targeting richard stallman of all people.RMS is not a victim. Calm down, all I said is that the things he's said is disgusting and that his defenders should be ashamed of themselves. What you are doing right now is embarrassing.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1OYrWEDKk2QYtvA8 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T06:05:39.178948Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape Yes, go on and waste more of your time raging about COVID. Retard.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1SVNfd8I4KnntUYK by Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-10-15T06:49:50.408641Z
       
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       @48kRAM How is it unsafe for women to participate? Specific details, please.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1UTPaFFTLW45Z1aC by Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-10-15T07:11:54.108461Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape do you have a link to the relevant post?
       
 (DIR) Post #An1UyE1aH66TBz2pN2 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T07:17:26.613896Z
       
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       @Cyrillic @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape Hey yeah, so I was mainly referencing his creepy ass posts about AoC but apparently there is a lot more he's written on sexual assault and stuff. Not that he's done any of those things but it is weird and gross and I really don't think that people would be defending him this hard if he wasn't who he is. https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html has an extensive post on some of his statements with sourcesHe retracted the first statement but he has some weird ass definitions of what a child is. https://www.stallman.org/antiglossary.html
       
 (DIR) Post #An1V8qLAfik8vHGlFo by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T07:19:22.827301Z
       
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       @teratology @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape > drew:cirno_sip: he's a.. bit of a firecracker himself
       
 (DIR) Post #An1VHphmP4mtYh8BKC by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T07:20:59.137796Z
       
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       @icedquinn @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape I'm aware he's controversial but I might as well site his blogpost since he does source most of RMs most controversial statements. I know there's that "anonymous report" but I didn't want to link to that considering it seems more biased.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1VWfhDtmzSrNwjBY by get@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T07:23:41.524072Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @teratology I heard he had sex with a child on epsteins island or something like that
       
 (DIR) Post #An1VYK1dRPvOEEHTA8 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T07:23:58.308860Z
       
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       @teratology @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape drew has something of a hateboner for autistic people.he went on a whole campaign to cancel the hyprland guy just for something very stupid (he said there might be some argument to support a genocide out there he'd believe, even though he doesn't support one, and drew decided to make his life hell over being self-aware.)
       
 (DIR) Post #An1VfZEbIC5FQSnfCy by get@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T07:25:18.099845Z
       
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       @icedquinn @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @teratology If RMS did get kicked out whoever replaces him is probably going to be a Microsoft secret agent antichrist type figure sent to sabotage everything
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Vps4m5wuGl27L6m by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T07:27:09.108517Z
       
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       @get @icedquinn @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape yeah it's stupid to think that getting rid of RMS is going to be a step towards inclusivity. When I was an intern it was the HR guy making inappropriate comments about my body, not randos online.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Vwait0mAixu5FNw by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T07:28:21.944307Z
       
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       @teratology @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @get i don't really believe anyone considers him a danger. i'm convinced they want him out because he speaks against the narrative.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1VxFnaIDI8MLb4ts by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T07:28:29.347305Z
       
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       @icedquinn @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape I wish people just acted normal and not being dickheads for no reason to people that are generally different than what they're used to. I am a fan of the Graphene project but I know too much about the drama with some of the lead devs and Copperhead. Has Drew worked on anything significant other than sourcehut?
       
 (DIR) Post #An1W7vCbD73VfLNtA0 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T07:30:25.187834Z
       
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       @teratology @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape sway, wayland specs, though he retired from those. i don't blame him for this because the wayland ecosystem is too retarded to salvage.i'm pretty confident at this point i would just strip the whole thing down to an Ember+ protocol, with a host that just negociates vulkan surfaces for rendering, and maybe slaps on openxr for events.wayland has been a resounding failure
       
 (DIR) Post #An1WejIcUCRGJ1qPw0 by Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-10-15T07:36:21.797557Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape It's not weird ass at all to have a different word for people of different age.Playing with words and technicalities can twist a 17 year old having sex into "child rape", and the people who wrote that article appear to support that bastardisation of language.A consistent theme on RMS' anti-glossary is that words should mean things, rather than be rhetorical devices.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1WsMu4YBTutsrl7w by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T07:38:48.509788Z
       
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       @Cyrillic @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape by his definition 13 and 14 year olds are not children. He also defended "voluntary pedophilia" which he decided was bad because he he finally talked to victims. You know what defines pedophilia right? That's prepubescent children.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1YwruvNr109dXR3I by Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-10-15T08:02:01.857906Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape I do not see the issue with that. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and RMS is honest enough to do so, while the articles reads as a sophists trying to hide behind ambiguities and plausible deniability, and getting mad when someone tries to set concrete definitions in order.Saying "there isn't evidence for X", then discovering evidence for X and changing your mind is a common thing, at least for intellectually curious men, idk about women tho.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1ZQu85irunhg1F5M by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T08:07:27.288859Z
       
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       @Cyrillic @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape I'm a rape victim between those ages and have no interest in indulging people who defend abuse that happened to me as a child. Have a nice day.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1Zyc7JCR89gTj81w by Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-10-15T08:13:34.523696Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape I'm not, but go off kween 🗣️ 📈
       
 (DIR) Post #An1aVBgCVthBFMa0Dw by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T08:19:26.268813Z
       
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       @Cyrillic You're merely proving my point, RMS isn't the problem. Fanboys and defenders like you are. Most normal well adjusted people don't need to talk to child molestation victims to conclude that pedophilia is bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1bf7Q7Iwsqt1M8MC by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T08:32:27.177972Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape  Yeah, like many people with pretty severe autism or with a background in 1970s post-hippie culture, he has some opinions that are stupid at best and out and out dangerous at worst. But I frankly don't think this debate, deep down, is about those opinions, I think they're a means to an end and his detractors are using Rules for Radicals tactics in a Machiavellian power play. People that defend him aren't defending his weird views on children and sexuality, they're making him and the FSF a hard line in the sand because of how similar brigades have impacted and corrupted other FOSS projects.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1c2dOQb3qohzmN96 by Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-10-15T08:36:42.328431Z
       
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       @teratology I never saw the mention of molestation or any synonym thereof anywhere, but whatever nigger, you're not the centre of the universe.I don't care what you consider well-adjusted, but making decisions on things when you have no data is foolish.Because that absence of reasoning can be applicable to literally anything (homosexuality and premarital sex in general can be condemned by the same reasoning)
       
 (DIR) Post #An1cEmVuVoFuTG4Tqq by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T08:38:53.041940Z
       
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       @Cyrillic he said he talked to people who were victims of said things and that's why he arrived to the conclusion that it is bad. How you jumped from there to homosexuality and premarital sex is beyond me. Stop defending weirdo shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1cRkKLx6jXSEqbSa by Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-10-15T08:41:15.159554Z
       
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       @teratology if the feelings of large groups of people are a source of truth, then there was a time when slavery was moral but homosexuality wasn't
       
 (DIR) Post #An1cYEUsh814lIrggK by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T08:42:24.637301Z
       
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       @mrsaturday @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @teratology everyone has stupid opinions about something its just most people don't talk about them in public
       
 (DIR) Post #An1dIVkgsCN7b9KK8m by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T08:50:46.757389Z
       
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       @icedquinn @Cyrillic @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @teratology Most people don't have crippling autism rendering them socially inept at the genetic level, either. It's a double-edged sword. I don't think he'd be nearly as committed to the concept of free software without it, but as a side effect we get to hear about his trash opinions on other unrelated things from time to time.You know how this would end if him and his supporters are pushed out. FSF takes the CoC (embrace), anyone insufficiently committed to left-liberal politics gets salami sliced out little by little (extend), and in the end the FSF becomes a toothless circlejerk inhabited by a board of Microsoft, Intel, Google, and IBM employees (extinguish). Nothing gets defended, nothing gets produced, and whatever energy's left in the movement gets sucked into the void.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1wUekL9lDy67fSZk by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T12:25:51.259154Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology you start having to start reporting so its easier for busybodies to bother you about
       
 (DIR) Post #An1xGPbsjiph3LU0yu by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T12:34:28.580715Z
       
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       @arcana ah but then you have to ask why talent isn't uniformly distributed. that might lead to uncomfortable questions like why are drug laws seemingly racially targeted (american drug laws were always about racism and power accumulation, the state never cared about public health and still doesn't)@sun @thegreatape @teratology
       
 (DIR) Post #An1xuIqxHHIrgEYTJY by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T12:41:41.006528Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology i'm not sure what the distribution is on such things lately. but nobody is actually even asking.
       
 (DIR) Post #An1ybZIK1an97lzCKG by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T12:49:31.480466Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology > A skilled and capable person will naturally rise to the top regardless of issues surrounding them.they actually don'thttps://www.technologyreview.com/2018/03/01/144958/if-youre-so-smart-why-arent-you-rich-turns-out-its-just-chance/
       
 (DIR) Post #An1zRdZHNgNRR8kJuq by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T12:58:54.289945Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology its a random field of opportunity spheres that float around the arena, and when a pawn intersects one they have to pass a die roll 🎲 on their competency level. negative opportunities always cause harm though.in almost every timeline the superwinners were nowhere near the highest performers. it was people who were slightly above garbage (around 60% success rate), with the most opportunities to roll.in another experiment from the same paper they compared the global score instead of personal ones, and just straight sortition ended up having better odds of picking people that were hyper-competent.there is some realistic evidence that people are regularly crap at selection decisions (Thinking Fast & Slow) or predictions of success (Save the Cat.)
       
 (DIR) Post #An2094pLuKMqQpygLo by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T13:06:47.093919Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology the fun part is that the social skills required to do said networking are the most guarded secrets on the planet :blobcatbeer2:
       
 (DIR) Post #An20MQr5JrjiVz9l0S by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T13:07:21.895374Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @get @Cyrillic @thegreatape my fear/anxiety of women might be a blessing in disguise. I don't think I'm good at social stuff so I'd probably be considered a creep
       
 (DIR) Post #An20dfRsJZkghMaDcu by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T13:12:18.303003Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology > no they aren’t,when carnegie wrote his book, he asked many academics if something like it already existed. one of them told him he knows exactly what he's asking about, and that it didn't exist.humanity made it well in to the 1960s without realizing they should bother teaching normie cryptography to people.we still don't
       
 (DIR) Post #An20eoHiwmoqORNcA4 by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T13:08:14.836080Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @Cyrillic hare? which is another of the million "c replacement languages" @thegreatape
       
 (DIR) Post #An20l2FFxMCRQZC5uC by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T13:08:50.477107Z
       
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       @icedquinn @teratology @Cyrillic werks on my machine @thegreatape
       
 (DIR) Post #An214FJha2QXTFQxge by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T13:10:20.166569Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @Cyrillic yeouch @thegreatape
       
 (DIR) Post #An21g662JH2fsW5gjQ by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T13:23:56.866867Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology :comfystoner: everything can be engineered, blob.
       
 (DIR) Post #An21vSxTalS17wPoCO by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T13:26:43.887444Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology i mean you can literally teach people the pattern languages to manipulate normies. people just get extremely unhappy when you talk about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #An22HREagMPw9Qthy4 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T13:30:42.319477Z
       
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       @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology most of them are sociopaths, yes. we know this from the psych reports.the few good people cultivate fortresses of insulation between themselves and the world writ large.
       
 (DIR) Post #An22cqcDVknQwz9oWm by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T13:22:47.922032Z
       
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       @eemmaa @arcana @teratology @sun @icedquinn @thegreatape yea, doesn't make sense
       
 (DIR) Post #An22fWQb1Y8RD0zsSe by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T13:35:02.848347Z
       
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       @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @teratology hard to say. one can afford to be socialist when you can bounce all your problems to the USA.
       
 (DIR) Post #An22vNLyWxWJhLOZEW by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T13:37:54.506356Z
       
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       @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @teratology haven't been tracking him too closely. lost all interest when he did the humiliation ritual for isreal.
       
 (DIR) Post #An23FR3CUhfIxMB8gC by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T13:41:32.470844Z
       
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       @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @teratology there is no future for man. we build the AGI, or we die.most of the nice things from civilization and the empire are falling apart at an exponential rate
       
 (DIR) Post #An23JpKIBCxFP8Gd5E by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2024-10-15T13:42:13.700236Z
       
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       @jeffcliff I suggest actually reading the GPLv3; https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html>* GPL4 should make clear that source code should be provided in plaintext not PNG files/screenshots/photographs/xeroxes of source code/etc`The “source code” for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it. “Object code” means any non-source form of a work.` - a PNG wouldn't be the preferred form for making modifications to it - a UTF-8 file would be though.>* GNU Affero should be opt-out not opt-inNumerous people suggested making the Affero clause part of the GPLv3, but many companies didn't like that and claimed that they would fork GPLv2 versions rather than allow for freedom.The current arrangement licenses is fine really, as you can just go with the AGPLv3-or-later and it's compatible with the GPLv3 - as both licenses are compatible with each other.>* What happens if SJWs get in charge of the FSF? The GPL should be hardened against that possibility`The Free Software Foundation may publish revised and/or new versions of the GNU General Public License from time to time. Such new versions will be similar in spirit to the present version, but may differ in detail to address new problems or concerns.`.That would no longer be the FSF and it wouldn't be similar in spirit, the GPLv3 is already hardened against that.>* I agree with eben moglen that we haven't fully thought out allowing GPL code to spy on users / allowing spyware -- an anti-spyware provision similar to the GPL3 'users must have the key' would make a lot of senseCopyright does not cover spyware, thus a license can't do anything about it.Every single time someone goes and adds spyware to free software, someone just goes and takes it out and releases a fixed version - so the spyware problem isn't an issue.>* I agree with richard stallman (2001 nyu speech) that a future GPL (GPL4) could address the power differential between users of mobile systems in some way, that functionally gives more power to usersAdjustments to better suit mobile and IoStings devices may be suitable.>* ...also there's something about movfuscation that needs to be addressed imho.Obfuscated source code is not the preferred form of making modifications, so the GPLv3 doesn't allow that.>* I think there's something inherently broken about forges that the GPL doesn't quite address. the github problemCopyright does not apply to what websites people host software on, although more legal action against microsoft does need to be taken for all of the copyright infringement they are doing.>* Freedom 0 requires the freedom to shield what program you are running from the government / authority. Without such basic privacy, you can't run the program as you wish. Merely running in the presence of state surveillance is not enough imhoThe GPLv3 takes steps to ensure that you are not required to inform a particular party or the government that you are running the software; "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program. Ancillary propagation of a covered work occurring solely as a consequence of using peer-to-peer transmission to receive a copy likewise does not require acceptance. However, nothing other than this License grants you permission to propagate or modify any covered work."
       
 (DIR) Post #An23OBAitrjIJdrnea by TheMadPirate@detroitriotcity.com
       2024-10-15T13:43:45.990303Z
       
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       @icedquinn @sun @thegreatape @teratology I don't think guys think women are bad programmers.I think us guys expect women to do as much crunch time and overtime as guys do. That's why guys think women are being whiny about the myth of the "pay gap" if such woman didn't do as much crunch time or overtime as your average Joe.
       
 (DIR) Post #An23cAv8dD0tafFbs0 by TheMadPirate@detroitriotcity.com
       2024-10-15T13:46:17.728163Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape I am all for recruiting based on anonymous resumes ( no gender, age, name or race detailed). Just selection based on achievement.
       
 (DIR) Post #An23n8gnGfaDr5lkv2 by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T13:27:45.251747Z
       
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       @teratology @arcana @sun @icedquinn @thegreatape just do it i guessalso> tfw (good looking) women don't sexually harass me😭🤕
       
 (DIR) Post #An23qkT3GVghtL3wbA by TheMadPirate@detroitriotcity.com
       2024-10-15T13:48:55.657095Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @sun @thegreatape @teratology There is a whole book on that by Charles Murray called "The Bell Curve"
       
 (DIR) Post #An23v85NOaMqIg4sSW by TheMadPirate@detroitriotcity.com
       2024-10-15T13:49:43.438733Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology It is still a Bell Curve.It never ceased being a Bell Curve.
       
 (DIR) Post #An23zc1Q2GNuIuMdt2 by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T13:28:48.816184Z
       
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       @teratology do black and latina women want to contribute to foss? @jeffcliff @icedquinn @thegreatape
       
 (DIR) Post #An246y9KAFegxTZOW8 by TheMadPirate@detroitriotcity.com
       2024-10-15T13:51:51.731042Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology No, you need a Laissez Faire market economy for that to happen. The closer is to Laissez Faire the more aligned it is with capability translating into economic success.
       
 (DIR) Post #An283NrD2bPHLdduBU by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T14:35:24.068190Z
       
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       >a PNG wouldn't be the preferred form for making modifications to it - a UTF-8 file would be though.that might be so, maybe i did misread that and people who provide such "source code" aren't complying> That would no longer be the FSF yes it would unfortunately> Copyright does not cover spyware, thus a license can't do anything about it.moglen would disagree with the latter. it is a problem, and a big one.> Obfuscated source codeI don't think the problem is the movfuscated *source code*. it's the problem of movfuscated object code in practice. it's a different kind of problem than we're used to> Copyright does not apply to what websites people host software on, contracts might though> the last parti think that the disagreement here hinges on moglen's interpretation of the possible
       
 (DIR) Post #An28reRndK9FHSj7pI by taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org
       2024-10-15T14:00:48.458438Z
       
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       @48kRAM > Make the Free Software movement and culture safe for women to participate.Meanwhile, the type of people behind this movement will actively kick you out and slur you for supporting feminists / being a feminist.It's all just men having a pissing contest on who's more progressive, but the jury is also men.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2DORi2PiGD9BDPc0 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T15:35:12.493445Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @jeffcliff @thegreatape I can't speak for anyone other than myself
       
 (DIR) Post #An2DTmPirVHgoEBxWC by verita84_automata@poster.place
       2024-10-15T15:36:49.563616Z
       
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       @icedquinn Repeal the 19th!
       
 (DIR) Post #An2ECLdPH0xMmmqOwq by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T15:44:14.235667Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape you don't necessarily need to be a socialist to oppose U.S imperialism. When your family and people have been hunted down and killed like dogs, you tend not to trust any government. Most governments are hostile to Indigenous and Black people.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2FCSMuKwxJcnk6Ns by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T15:55:27.640648Z
       
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       @teratology @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape i mean most of south america lists heavily socialist, but like typical socialists their security is handled elsewhere.venezuela gambled and failed their whole economy on oil futures. conveniently nobody in south america is a "stable country" so they can just bounce all the refugees they don't want to the USA. there's also no real risk of invasions because we wouldn't allow it.once the american empire falls there's a lot of bennies that go with it. we're already seeing people making moves (russia, israel) because we're in a weakened state.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2H5zynAo4FkUVkci by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T16:16:41.695434Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape white supremacy as a system is extremely dependent and influenced by capitalism, settler colonialism is violent. I'm not saying that Indigenous people didn't have their own territorial disputes or feudal issues, but modern "civilized" society has been built upon the trans Atlantic slave trade and genocide of Indigenous people. Genocide is specific to settler colonialism, Palestine is only shocking people because it's in early stages. That is not to deny the fact that the East African slave trade and Arabic conquests went on centuries before modern western colonialism.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2IDAZEJ54KZEXOk4 by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T16:29:13.142642Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @toiletpaper indians were absolutely brutal, tbh I have no tolerance for high caste indians in the usa spouting shit about whiteness
       
 (DIR) Post #An2IYxAomjHZOkVTl2 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T16:33:07.882416Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology america is where the untouchable casts escape so they can become rich people lol
       
 (DIR) Post #An2JP2QOVRMCk7d0pk by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T15:57:19.383416Z
       
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       @teratology @arcana @sun @icedquinn @thegreatape it's not something i can relate since I'm coastal
       
 (DIR) Post #An2M3VzOCnEFvXQRZw by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T17:12:17.049934Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape I'm not a fan of white supremacy and settler colonialism either, but I don't think it's got much to do with capitalism. Capitalism rests upon the voluntary consent of the individual and is heavily informed by Classical Liberal philosophy. Both colonialism and slavery are anathema to the core tenets of the idea. The concept of capitalism is also thousands of years more modern (ie. since Adam Smith) than ethnic nationalism or colonialism, much less slavery.The Africans sold into slavery were rounded up and sold by other black people (eg. the Dahomey empire). That had been the status quo long before "white people" showed up, just not as lucrative. As to "white people" mostly it was justified on the basis of Abrahamic religion, and had much less to do with the complexion of either slaves or their traders. Particularly given that Irish, British and Slavic people were prised as slaves, especially in the context of sexual slavery (eg. saqaliba, mamluks, etc). They just happened to be more expensive, and so fewer in number. Even in the USA prior to slavery for life becoming legalised, white people were very often slaves. An example would be Anthony Johnson, himself a slave from Angola, who once freed went on to own 5 white people and another black to work his plantation. Hardly an exception to the rule.As far as I'm aware Jews and Muslims aren't even considered "white people" nor held accountable, in spite of being the most prolific purveyors of slaves during that era. The the entire history of slavery in the USA involves about 388K people over the course of 300 years or so, which is minuscule compared to estimated total 10-12 million other parts of the the Americas. Take Brazil for instance, which today has more Yoruba people living there than Nigeria. Slavery was never legal in Canada, which was actually a destination for those feeling captivity. Doesn't stop "white people" in Canada from being blamed though (speaking from experience). Similarly free African Americans were around twice as likely to own slaves in the antebellum south as their white neighbours. Even Amerindians were in on it, which continues to be a source of legal conflict to this day (eg. Cherokee freedmen, Black Seminoles, etc). Moreover, "white people" were the ones to end the slave trade in the 1800's. Almost everywhere else in the world which wasn't a colonial country, it continues unabated to this day. For instance in Mali, many Tuareg continue to own an entire other ethnic group called the Ikelan, as they did long before "white people" were on the scene. It's still perfectly legal. That's just one example of many. The main difference with Westerners is we owned up to it and ended the practice.But as the saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished.> Palestine is only shocking people because it's in early stages.That conflict has been going on for nearly a century now. It started in the late 1800's with Ashkenazi terrorist groups attacking Muslims and later also British. The concept of Zionism itself was invented by Protestant Christians in the mid 1500's in an effort to bring about the end of the world according to their delusional BuyBull prophesies. It didn't catch on with Jews until 3 centuries later, mainly Ashkenazim, and specifically the fascist German Zionist Federation which collaborated with the Nazis (Haavara Agreement, etc) in order to provide incentive for European Jews to go along with their colonisation plan. The only reason it has anything to do with the rest of us is because of Christian Zionism's influence in the USA and UK, and the fact that Jewish Zionists have turned both into puppet governments. I'm glad the recent news finally clued you in, but none of this is news to me in the slightest.> ...East African slave trade and Arabic conquests went on centuries before modern western colonialism.Bingo. And that's just one part of the non-Eurocentric world to consider in the same light.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2NvFfJDH1ItJDjYe by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T17:33:11.597888Z
       
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       @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology christians aren't supposed to own slaves though. they're only allowed indentures for a set period of time and there's rules on top of that.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2O8S5qJkHnCTvTU0 by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T17:35:35.957480Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @teratology > christians aren't supposed to own slavesMaybe now, but originally the only prohibition was against owning other christians. Everyone else was fair game. In fact the Catholic church at one point was the largest slave owner in the entirety of Europe.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2OCm7XnWt6TMmcLI by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T17:36:22.011336Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape the idea that slaves did not take part in their own liberation is ahistorical, re Haiti. Abraham Lincoln was racist and did not truly end slavery. Slavery did not just happen in the states, it happened during Spanish colonialism too. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here, I'm aware that colonialism predates capitalism. Othering people for economic gain was specific to the slave trade in the south. Colonized peoples do not need or require "white saviors" for their liberation. I'm aware of Zionisms roots. Birthright is no different than manifest destiny. Indigenous people see many parallels between our struggle and Palestine's. The issue is many people have issues with what Israel is doing but they don't bring the same energy when it comes to the ongoing genocidal projects in the states, Canada, etc.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2OIaCd1OrPFNvlFQ by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T17:37:25.306289Z
       
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       @sun @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @toiletpaper yes the caste system and racism predates colonialism in India
       
 (DIR) Post #An2ObrRr7w5aEfFIOG by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T17:40:54.901099Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @teratology > The abolition movement was very heavily Christian.Specifically it was mostly Quakers. Today they include people of a variety of other religious backgrounds (eg. Buddhists, Jews, and even Pagans/Witches, etc). They're far more like the original Gnostic sects of the early few centuries of Christinanity which were stamped out by Catholicisms as heresy.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2OfrG3mC0intdNR2 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T17:41:37.398946Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper it is ahistorical to pretend that western civilization wasn't built on white supremacy, genocide, and slavery. That is the distinction. Slavery is still ongoing in Africa, but Haiti is still paying the price for freedom to France. Colonial projects still exist and Indigenous people are still fighting for their rights and pretending that they no longer exist is anti indigenous. Hawaii, the Philippines, Mexico, and the global south deserve freedom and sovereignty from U.S imperialism and extractivism. Most of the pollution in my country comes from U.S and Canada.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2P0irgB3Ner0BB5M by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T17:45:23.798436Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper in the south, I'm pretty sure Christians aren't supposed to be practicing incest either.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2POUTXKPtTAyDi64 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T17:49:40.106821Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper cousins are nearly genetically strangers with around 11-12% DNA on average. Parents have 50% of their child's DNA.  People in the south are unironically known for father daughter and siblings incest.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2PSR0c9tKjaDZZWy by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T17:50:24.671462Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape > the idea that slaves did not take part in their own liberation is ahistorical, re Haiti. I don't recall saying nor even implying that. Nonetheless it was due also to the concerted efforts of their white and male allies like William Lloyd Garrison and countless others that slavery and gender inequality were expunged from the law. On the other hand, this current generation is dead set on reversing that by putting all manner of legislation in place on a racial and gender/sex basis, provided it privileges their own demographic.> Othering people for economic gain was specific to the slave tradeTotally explains all the socialist/communist people who blame the 1% and capitalism...> The issue is many people have issues with what Israel is doing but they don't bring the same energy when it comes to the ongoing genocidal projects in the states, Canada, etc.Indeed! A fact I've never failed to remind people of when given the chance.> Colonized peoples do not need or require "white saviors" for their liberation.Maybe not saviours, but I do think you need allies. Alienating and othering people such as myself who've had your backs from day one, isn't gonna work out well for you. I used to be very vocal about this stuff, but after too many years of hearing all kinds of hateful rhetoric directed at "cis white heterosexual men", I'm basically at the point now where y'all can get fucked as far as I'm concerned. You're (in the broad sense) no better than the people you aim to replace.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2Pd58ZohrYw2NFZY by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T17:52:18.775777Z
       
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       @arcana french colonies had a bit of a problem where france built a lot of shit to "help" them be resource extractors for the homeland, then billed them for the privilege of the sweat shops and harbors, and when the colony rebelled france turned around and screamed about debt and restitutions, so the rest of the eurosphere basically banned them from trade until they paid off debts they never wanted back to europe.sort of an organized blockade, in that specific case.@mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology
       
 (DIR) Post #An2PzVCBc6fE7kklBA by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T17:56:22.843614Z
       
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       @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology questionable
       
 (DIR) Post #An2Q7jM4qvboM7IrOy by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T17:57:51.597150Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape allies don't victimize themselves you're a white man in society? Boohoo? Like bruh you're talking to someone whose family has been displaced by U.S imperialism and violence. My boyfriend is white himself and doesn't get hostile or defensive with me when I discuss U.S history or imperialism that has happened in central America and the global south. You shouldn't feel othered when we discuss history and how the trans-atlantic slave trade has a unique historical context in comparison to the Arab conquests and invasion in Africa. I haven't denied any of that and I mentioned it in my previous post, but denying that the U.S still doesn't have slavery or isn't practicing genocide is Abby Martin levels of genocidal apologia. Black and Brown people are rounded up to die in ghettos, reservations, and the prison industrial complex and it's normalized in the U.S. Canada is a fucked up nation that practiced the biggest legally sanctioned human trafficking operation in history, the 80s scoop. I was told by an older Black woman at a protest that white allies were integral to the civil rights movement, but I don't believe it had anything to do with religion.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2QLXB0vdNadgi704 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T18:00:21.894250Z
       
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       @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology ireland is quite feisty but its not the ireland it was. it's only a very tiny part of the country that even has the language still.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2QTRC13nKYOgwpai by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T18:01:47.467921Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper There's a lot of evidence to suggest the Clinton Foundation is running a human trafficking operation, also Naomi Campbell seems to be a madam in another "resort" in maybe Jamaica. Can't remember.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2QXYfFDvE8jBaH3I by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T18:02:32.412866Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper I'll look later, but apparently 23nme is revealing that incest is more common than previously thought. And I'm talking much worse than cousin relations.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2QY97VgJE9nH5M6i by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T18:02:38.803207Z
       
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       @teratology @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper she also had a charity drive and stole all the money
       
 (DIR) Post #An2QdcfbF8vKtAdro8 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T18:03:37.987836Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper Northern Ireland is still occupied. My ex was a Catholic whose family was prominent IRA members. They fucking hate brits and protestants and want their land back lol
       
 (DIR) Post #An2QeBqSSlPDyyzX5k by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T18:03:44.338238Z
       
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       @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology as a burger they don't talk about the time of troubles at all. its all about feel bad for blacks because dixie, and obey jews because hitler. they don't talk about tuskegee or the time britain decided to engage in recreational school shooting in ireland.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2Qiv0sTGptE97UVk by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2024-10-15T18:04:35.580275Z
       
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       @teratology @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper > occupiedthe country split. that half wants to be there. :drgn_woozy:
       
 (DIR) Post #An2Qljff66qav1XWEq by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T18:05:06.037551Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper she was also involved in murdering Berta Caceres :^) funny how the world bank quietly abandoned that dam project as soon as she was killed
       
 (DIR) Post #An2QtRbc9Dd3CtK2IC by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T18:06:29.396302Z
       
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       @arcana @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-23183102
       
 (DIR) Post #An2Qu6nkyyheyQJoPY by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T18:06:36.280362Z
       
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       @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper that's not the way some of them see it considering that Belfast is still heavily segregated. And it goes deeper than being a catholic vs protestant issue.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2R3dyqzdk2Tz3WG8 by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T18:08:20.729025Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @toiletpaper clinton foundation donations evaporated after she lost the election lol but definitely not a quid pro quo scheme
       
 (DIR) Post #An2Rtbqm9tjgvy3Yzg by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T18:17:43.544746Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape > ...allies don't victimize themselves you're a white man in society? Boohoo?I'm  perfectly happy to be a white man in society. But I'm not happy to extend my support to people intent on being racist/sexist towards me as a consequence of that identity. You don't like it, boo-fucking-hoo to you too.> My boyfriend is white...Tokenism isn't limited to just one ethnicity I see.> You shouldn't feel othered when we discuss history...I don't feel othered. I feel offended when the facts are distorted to support a racist/sexist narrative.> ...the 60s scoop.Well aware. My aunt was one of the kids caught up in that. You're preaching to the choir. That said, blame "white people" or "men" or "heterosexuals" or anything like that, and you're not gonna find me to be a receptive audience no matter what your victim Olympics status is.> I was told by an older Black woman at a protest that white allies were integral to the civil rights movement, but I don't believe it had anything to do with religion.The civil rights movement probably didn't have anything to do with religion, at least as far as white people were concerned. More likely it was their relative Paganism (visa-vis hippies and new age spirituality) However the original antislavery movement in colonial America largely stemmed from 19th century Quakers.In terms of 20th century civil rights movement, ever heard of the Rainbow Coalition? I've personally had a couple pretty decent conversations with Bobby Seale several years back, though not specifically about that. He's a good guy. Always treated me with respect without regard to my ethnic background. The activists in this day and age on the other hand most aren't worth the dirt under his toenails afaic.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2Tfkn0KHOKVpoTia by lucy@netzsphaere.xyz
       2024-10-15T18:37:37.329820Z
       
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       @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @teratology > or those weird german states where age of consent is like 12age of constent in germany is 14-18 depending on the age of both participants. because teenagers have sex with other teenagers.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2UCWba5FdI4q631c by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T18:43:32.386659Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @arcana @teratology @sun @icedquinn @thegreatape the boyfriend is a poast user?!
       
 (DIR) Post #An2WGmcag3Naojj8c4 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T19:06:43.849245Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape i don't disagree with you but pretending that you face sexism or racism on a systemic level is just mad weird mang
       
 (DIR) Post #An2WJpYYDpRsmwI53Y by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T19:07:17.288244Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper my bf is a normie but prior to us dating he held typical liberal beliefs
       
 (DIR) Post #An2WQTwuxFk7norMEi by monkyyy@poa.st
       2024-10-15T19:08:29.935130Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology woke science lies
       
 (DIR) Post #An2WRsuncMk5WRXOVs by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T19:08:45.082001Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape > i don't disagree with you but pretending that you face sexism or racism on a systemic level is just mad weird mangYou have no clue. Family law for one thing. Also, I dare say it would be a hell of a lot easier to get employed in IT these days if I could put my skin colour, gender or sexual orientation on my resume, as opposed to having to have actual qualifications. That's the tip of the iceberg.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2WhtDYGFAh5rwNSy by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T19:11:37.929094Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape I already went over this. This idea that because I'm a woman or a minority doesn't mean I don't go through technical interviews and that I only get jobs because I'm a DEI hire is extremely fucked up and racist. I've never just landed a job out of nowhere. I know women in the industry that are also struggling to find work after tech layoffs.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2XkP9yZT2ch720ES by Jonny@annihilation.social
       2024-10-15T19:23:17.556469Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper If America hadn’t colonized Hawaii when it did. It would have been colonized by Russia or Japan. The Pacific Islanders much prefer Americans.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2YHEaEumD9RryDCK by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T19:29:13.706483Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape I'm sure there are some folks struggling to find work due to layoffs, but just about every job posting I've seen in recent memory has some specific DEI verbiage attached, or some kind of mandate to that effect. If you don't think that's "systemic discrimination" you really don't understand the meaning of either word imo. It's not limited to work in IT by a long shot.As long as I can remember going down to any government services office, there've been posters advertising extra opportunities and extra money for basically every demographic imaginable so long as they're not a "straight white heterosexual cis male". It's hardly a new thing. Goes back at least 30 years. It wasn't fun for Rosa Parks any more than it is for people like me. If that's the idea of social justice these days, then frankly, fuck that!In a lot of cases just being a man is enough (eg. Family law). Having your family being taken away isn't unique to the 60's scoop. Worse yet being charged ransom money in order to continue to be a parent, and even then often finding your rights aren't enforceable. That's been the status quo for nearly 2 centuries now. And most of the pay-gap and other rhetoric is utter bullshit which doesn't stand up to scrutiny. At least us guys are generally grateful to our allies (eg. Erin Pizzy, Ann Cools, Cassie Jaye, Honey Badgers, etc), for all the good it's done us, instead of lumping them in with the perpetrators.You trying to dictate to me about what "white cis heterosexual men" experience systemically is about is credible to me as if I were trying to talk down to you about your experience as an indigenous woman. Probably a lot less so given I've actually taken the time to look into it and listen to what people have to say instead of just regurgitating bullshit ideology.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2Yortpl9kswQAni4 by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-15T19:35:16.937495Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @arcana @teratology @sun the only thing i have to contribute is uoh chocolate women @icedquinn @thegreatape
       
 (DIR) Post #An2YtQbAgvyriUcOPY by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T19:36:08.460165Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape @teratology Heh. I'm not one to kink shame. ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #An2sonzwGP0pvMHBI0 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T23:19:22.892959Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape do you believe in the great replacement theory?
       
 (DIR) Post #An2ss2GreZO73ljWRE by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T23:19:58.799838Z
       
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       @Jonny @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper do you actually talk to Pacific Islanders?
       
 (DIR) Post #An2u1XqFk8hrXFNsYK by Jonny@annihilation.social
       2024-10-15T23:32:53.409814Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper All the time. I’m a roofing salesman. I’m in people’s kitchens all the time.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2uGs3YrrpEZcuvBo by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T23:35:39.089695Z
       
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       @Jonny @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper Pacific Islanders I know generally dislike the U.S, esp Hawaiians considering that RIMPAC exercises occur on their territory and just did this past summer.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2ufr97ODeuzQQjPE by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T23:40:11.675316Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape I've heard about it, but I'm not particularly concerned. I happen to like ethnic and cultural diversity as a rule. I draw the line at racist hypocrites though. I do my best to make responsible personal choices, not be persuaded by white guilt and advocacy for collective punishment. If that's the kind of thing you're up to, you can expect me to be unabashedly in opposition to it. When it comes to anti-racism, anti-sexism, etc, either alk the talk or gtfo.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2upDl6gYfjjCfG8u by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-15T23:41:53.143554Z
       
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       @teratology @arcana @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape Btw, as far as "great replacement" stuff goes though, this seems apropos. It wouldn't surprise me if the plan is now extended to European people. Seems to be.https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/quot-the-iron-wall-quot
       
 (DIR) Post #An2vjXbG6TgDTsuhbU by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-15T23:52:03.383259Z
       
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       @toiletpaper @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape I understand what you're saying to an extent but you went a bit extreme towards the end there. I'm not discriminating against white people by discussing how white supremacy has shaped modern society. Also focusing on IDPOL is dumb and ignores the needs of the masses, I obviously vibe better with working class people of any background over say, a Black capitalist. Just because Kopmala is a woman, or because AOC is in office, doesn't mean that they're on my side. Compradors also exist in the global south and Mexico and other states in the global south have committed atrocities against Indigenous people there too. I have also noticed that a lot of communists, MLs, whatever you call them, tankies, are really just labor Zionists who don't want Indigenous people to have autonomy over themselves. A lot of the time they want a socialist settler state installed and it just goes to show how deep anti indigenous sentiment goes. Another example would be "anti-imperialist" China's 2-state solution stance.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2xTLwzqcaGcsURSS by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-16T00:11:29.841354Z
       
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       @toiletpaper  this is an insane read holy fuck
       
 (DIR) Post #An2yctnTTclE9w9TUG by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
       2024-10-16T00:24:28.908493Z
       
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       @teratology @icedquinn @arcana @mischievoustomato @sun @thegreatape Basically my point is we all have our issues and bones to pick. It doesn't serve any of us to dismiss each others concerns, much less on the basis of the same criteria (race, gender, sexuality, etc) that we're trying to reconcile. The only people served by us antagonising each other are those already in power as a consequence of it. It's in their interests to foment these conflicts, whereas it's up to us to be smart enough to see past that and unite as allies and equals in spite of them.
       
 (DIR) Post #An2zh2Xf0NqyOTIFhQ by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-16T00:36:25.328970Z
       
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       @toiletpaper  I don't generally disagree but you will get pushback when you compare your struggles to that of say a Black person. The Irish imo are great examples of allies because they've supported Indigenous nations on multiple continents. It isn't no surprise they know what it's like to be occupied and pushed out of your land. I aim for class solidarity first and foremost. It's just that race and class are very much linked at this point in time. Charles Mills the Racial Contract goes quite in depth about the topic and what the founding fathers all agreed on. growing up I was very much aware that what is taught in schools is white washed and sanitized version of events. Even discussing Hiroshima and Nagasaki in highschool was glossed over.
       
 (DIR) Post #An4p5RFo4FoMo6IHNQ by branman65@poa.st
       2024-10-16T21:47:00.828858Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology uoh choco woman sexo
       
 (DIR) Post #An4paHtyt81YmNnMRs by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-16T21:52:32.618538Z
       
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       @branman65 @arcana @teratology @sun @icedquinn @toiletpaper @thegreatape
       
 (DIR) Post #An4pdHxz6XkDqf6BVo by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-16T21:53:02.295298Z
       
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       @branman65 @arcana @teratology @sun @icedquinn @toiletpaper @thegreatape weren't you racist bro
       
 (DIR) Post #An4ps3mI8if8BefmSW by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-16T21:53:03.848371Z
       
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       @branman65 @arcana @teratology @sun @icedquinn @toiletpaper @thegreatape weren't you racist bro
       
 (DIR) Post #An4rZk0h63GbZfnnYO by branman65@poa.st
       2024-10-16T22:14:53.980926Z
       
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       @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @arcana @sun @thegreatape @toiletpaper @teratology you're saying like that's in the past
       
 (DIR) Post #An4rjEN1aUVaLClvzk by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
       2024-10-16T22:16:26.655770Z
       
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       @branman65 @arcana @teratology @sun @icedquinn @toiletpaper @thegreatape based
       
 (DIR) Post #AnBpaMfUWkh5fUm2b2 by tatzelbrumm@qoto.org
       2024-10-15T02:58:53Z
       
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       @freemo :Beware ofSavonarola's vermin.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXmh6Slkg_4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3w5tgiMmNk&t=163sPlease make sure that fanatics like@baldengineer@48kRAMmay have their say,but never get to shout down and cancel anyone based on absurd accusationson this site.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnBpaNk8Wy0J0BxGTY by freemo@qoto.org
       2024-10-15T12:41:34Z
       
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       @tatzelbrumm @baldengineer @48kRAM Stallman has, at least from what I've seen, been the right amount of considerate and dismissive. He doesnt play into the games, but he seems to acknowledge the valid ethical concerns.That said, its also possible he did something really shitty and I just missed it. So if there is a specific example of something shitty he did that warrants this sort of response I will happily review it and consider it to see if it changes my opinion (probably should have been part of this post to be honest).But yea until someone actually provides some valid justification for this sort of reaction I hear this sort of stuff and I will just double down my support for stallman as a victim of a mob with pitchforks.