Post AmVGVRGLPIKT36LHLE by dayglojago@mstdn.party
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(DIR) Post #AmVGE6whguSz7AtQcS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-09-29T18:01:24Z
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There have been a few times in my life when I was "in danger" and had to run away. And in both cases I can't remember the running (or swimming part.) Just seeing "the danger" then... I was with my family or back on the beach or whatever. 1. The time I was snorkling and discovered the drop off unexpectedly. I swam back to shore but do not remember this.2. Watching salmon and then seeing a black bear. I ran back to the other side of the river but do not remember this. Is this a thing?
(DIR) Post #AmVGK65jmR8OCcyNhw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-09-29T18:02:28Z
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I guess with the snorkeling the danger was just in my mind. But, I just remember seeing the deep dark of the ocean and ... then I was on the beach.
(DIR) Post #AmVGVRGLPIKT36LHLE by dayglojago@mstdn.party
2024-09-29T18:02:45Z
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@futurebird I believe the sudden fear can induce a trauma-like response which can supress memory
(DIR) Post #AmVGZepot6muIhwnNA by HoustonDog@mastodon.world
2024-09-29T18:05:08Z
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@futurebird seems a good strategy of fight or flight. (the whole "standing up straight" to appear bigger to bears seems ... dumb)
(DIR) Post #AmVGjeQlFH8VwWzXOK by aprilfollies@mastodon.online
2024-09-29T18:06:55Z
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@futurebird It is a thing for me, at least. It happened once when a group of friends was holding me down for a joke - next thing I know I’m across the room. Apparently I did minor violence along the way. (Seriously, they were just joking about making me watch something on TV that I thought was very silly, but somewhere a panic switch flipped or something.).
(DIR) Post #AmVGpSflsF35DKmblg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-09-29T18:07:22Z
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@HoustonDog Maybe it makes sense if the bear has noticed you. If you see a bear they are very large and I think most people will just try to not be near the bear anymore. Just my two cents.
(DIR) Post #AmVHlDDZUbG84s89Ts by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-09-29T18:18:36Z
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@aprilfollies It's very strange because I remember everything so well right up until the ESCAPE NOW then it's just blank. Maybe making memories isn't a priority when in a panic so there are none.
(DIR) Post #AmVI1l7LDruHqf6fDM by aprilfollies@mastodon.online
2024-09-29T18:21:26Z
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@futurebird That actually seems a very plausible hypothesis. A lot of trauma response seems (to me) to be, “whatever thinking helps you to survive at the time.”
(DIR) Post #AmVKgkf21bkUDIXVMu by Wlm@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-09-29T18:51:22Z
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@futurebird @aprilfollies That’d be my theory too: “let’s not waste effort on memory recording right now.”I was hit on my bike by a car (very slowly, my fault) and I remember nothing between ‘uh oh’ and me standing next to my bike.
(DIR) Post #AmVOPEgY3VpVw99UgK by marshray@infosec.exchange
2024-09-29T19:33:03Z
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@futurebird Yep, sudden pain or loss of balance can also prompt your lower brain to automatically put your higher brain on ‘pause’. Apparently an instinctual response is quicker than trying to reason about what to do.
(DIR) Post #AmVPw2mpPpSSXnIVXc by jannem@fosstodon.org
2024-09-29T19:50:09Z
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@futurebird "I guess with the snorkeling the danger was just in my mind."I'll hijack this a bit: we live in a "paradise Island" kind of place with lots of tourists coming for the beaches and the sea. They go swimming, diving, para sailing, hiking, grilling...And more of them die in snorkeling accidents than in all other activities combined.If you felt in danger you may very well have been. It's *very* easy to get in trouble without even realizing it before it's too late.
(DIR) Post #AmVQqDkRqc5kl1yHtQ by quinsibell@sauropods.win
2024-09-29T20:00:19Z
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@futurebird when I was a kid running around my grandparents' farm, I saw a black hose, and being a kid decided to jump on it. To my surprise I jumped _over_ it. That's when I realised — or my conscious brain at least — that the "hose" was a red-belly black snake. They're not aggressive, but very venomous.We tend to think of our conscious brains as "us" but really we're a collection of processes, many of which never reach conscious awareness, at least not without considerable processing.
(DIR) Post #AmVSbtgfpvVuOUVI5Q by dr2chase@ohai.social
2024-09-29T20:20:11Z
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@futurebird nope, I remember the whole damn thing. Was snorkeling, from a sailboat with family, off Crystal River, saw a 6-foot-ish shark a little too close and interested, yelled "Shark" (through a snorkel) and swoosh-boom, levitated right up the side of the boat and in, followed a second or two later by my father, who grabbed my little brother who was kicking feet in the water.
(DIR) Post #AmVZo2sSC3cQ3BkmG0 by jstevenyork@mastodon.social
2024-09-29T21:40:45Z
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@futurebird It happens. The one time I was mugged, I was walking home at night with a bag of groceries, and surrounded by a group of teens. One of them hit me, and I dropped the groceries, started flailing till there was an opening. I ran like hell. Only isolated memories were like a slide show: Footsteps in chase, the church half a block from home, stairs to my apartment. That was it, even immediately after.
(DIR) Post #AmVaKCuWQQ4aR23aJk by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-09-29T21:46:35Z
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@jstevenyork That's terrifying!
(DIR) Post #AmVdIGVyM1FKtcL7R2 by jstevenyork@mastodon.social
2024-09-29T22:19:48Z
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@futurebird I guess it was. I don't really remember. <grin> I can think of other INCIDENTS that were scarier, but this was one where I had to (or at least could) take action to save myself, and that might be different. Auto accidents, falls, those times, by the time I knew it was happening, it was too late to do much, and I could kind of pull back and take the ride, unpleasant as it was.