Post AmMbYyf42N4c7InI6C by aral@mastodon.ar.al
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(DIR) Post #AmMIqlkYsj8o9l8TMe by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:17:59Z
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If things don’t improve, this StarLite will likely be the last Linux device I get.Not asking for much, just:- Battery life to at least match my ten-year-old iPad. (I’d be happy with something lasted more than two-(sorry, cursor just jumped while typing that – see point 2, below)-three hours.- Trackpad that disables while typing so I can, well, type. Basically, just a machine that gets the basics right.(Really - sorry cursor jumped - want to love this machine. Just can’t.)
(DIR) Post #AmMJ0laOLXOoXl96ae by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:19:51Z
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The trackpad issue, by the way: https://github.com/StarLabsLtd/firmware/issues/182(And the battery issue… well, that’s been a problem with the previous Starlabs labtop I had too.)
(DIR) Post #AmMJBeP3OOP3S4258C by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:21:49Z
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(And yeah, I’d much rather be coding instead of typing th – cursor just jumped, sorry – -is but, due to this trackpad issue, I really can’t.)
(DIR) Post #AmMJE54NDaaAjeWCMS by hyde@lazybear.social
2024-09-25T10:21:51Z
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@aral I have a Tuxedo one for 5 years if I remember correctly, and it works well so far.
(DIR) Post #AmMJGiuS465ksN8afI by linuxgnome@todon.eu
2024-09-25T10:22:25Z
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@aral Buy without an OS and stick your own Linux distro on it. I'm afraid that Star Labs has declined in product, IMHO.
(DIR) Post #AmMJJKrtuEJDBNBqBE by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:22:23Z
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@hyde How’s the battery life?
(DIR) Post #AmMJQ8K8wc3EIsdq9Q by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:24:28Z
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@linuxgnome I did :) (Although StarLabs installs a wide range of operating systems, to their credit.) This is a firmware and/or hardware issue with the magnetic keyboar, ju- oops, cursor just jumped while I was writing the apology for almost accidentally closing this reply – d – sorry – *sigh*
(DIR) Post #AmMJUacRgYgZDZKLzs by hyde@lazybear.social
2024-09-25T10:25:13Z
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@aral After 5 years, it's still decent. I dont know exactly, but I have it next to me charged at 100%... let's see, and I'll update you as soon as I get a feedback :)
(DIR) Post #AmMJrsxzdTvAmYVx3o by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:29:31Z
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Right, disabled the trackpad entirely and I can at least type again.Thankfully, it’s a tablet (although you can’t use it for programming – at least in Terminal, e.g., with Helix – in tablet mode because the on-screen keyboard in GNOME does not have all the keys you need. e.g., ESC is missing. Kind of a biggie when using a modal editor) so I can use the touch-screen if I need to (not ideal ergonomically when using it docked but goodness it feels good to be able to type again.#StarLite #Linux
(DIR) Post #AmMJvJFMNpmP9oGoYy by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2024-09-25T10:30:20.417194Z
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@aral The problem with such device doesn't appear to be Linux - it appears to be the shitty proprietary software that controls the peripherals of the device.Before purchasing a systemd/Linux device you should review if the device works with free software - if it doesn't, it's guaranteed to be a lemon, if it does, then it'll probably work properly.>-three hours.Possible with low brightness and aggressive throttling on most laptops - although you need to install laptop-mode-tools to get that.>- Trackpad that disables while typing so I can, well, type. That is usually an option that can be set in the desktop environment.
(DIR) Post #AmMJvbNSyQxXOACXhI by linuxgnome@todon.eu
2024-09-25T10:30:09Z
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@aral My bad, then. What I dislike most is the non-modular construction (yes, a common problem). I HATE soldered RAM. I dislike it when, if you disengage the battery, you can' get the sodding thing connected again. I almost bricked my StarLite - which I can now only use with the power cable.
(DIR) Post #AmMK3dlRz22z6lFjDk by bitnik@akko.unix.dog
2024-09-25T10:29:05.108433Z
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@aralWhile you wait for the trackpad issue to be resolved, am I right to assume you can mitigate the problem by adjusting trackpad sensitivity?@linuxgnome
(DIR) Post #AmMK3ebYrHjNiNdLRg by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:31:30Z
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@bitnik @linuxgnome Hmm, actually, I’m wondering if it’s only an issue when tap-to-click is enabled. (I believe so.)
(DIR) Post #AmMK6i48Rnt7JjSKiu by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:31:59Z
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@linuxgnome Ah, sorry to hear it. I wouldn’t be brave enough to open this up :)
(DIR) Post #AmMKLxh8cZaa8LyKDQ by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:34:54Z
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Hmm, I wonder if this is actually an issue with tap-to-click not getting disabled when the disable touchpad while typing setting is on in GNOME and/or the StarLite firmware.I’ve just re-enabled the trackpad but turned off tap to click and I don’t seem to be seeing the problem (and the mouse cursor does disappear while typing, which is did before too). Hmm… I’ll update the issue and fingers crossed they’ll be able to fix it for tap-to-click too.CC @starlabssystems #StarLite #Linux
(DIR) Post #AmMKSoHzzN0WzSTkXI by bebna@chaos.social
2024-09-25T10:36:05Z
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@aral are u using libinput? that comes with palm detection and disable-w-typing```bashlibinput list-devices```
(DIR) Post #AmMLdFpGYz5lF9aEOe by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T10:49:15Z
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@bebna Yep, I’m wondering now if it doesn’t work for tap-to-click… https://github.com/StarLabsLtd/firmware/issues/182
(DIR) Post #AmMOVTddcnVVcz7yOe by entropealabs@mastodon.social
2024-09-25T11:21:26Z
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@aral I've moved to a desktop machine full time now, but System76 has some solid laptops. I've had 4 of them. The new ones have some pretty strong battery life as well.
(DIR) Post #AmMPA3CKpmd9Uthh9E by wariat@mastodon.social
2024-09-25T11:28:42Z
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@aral ??> Trackpad that disables while typing so I can, well, type. maybe you have to turn it on? :>> Basically, just a machine that gets the basics right.Maybe i'm using it too long, but it is working right IMO
(DIR) Post #AmMSOaHWvTG01OktsW by rateexportpilot@infosec.exchange
2024-09-25T12:04:56Z
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@aral @starlabssystems I have System 76's Lemur Pro and I don't think I've ever had the track pad problem. Batter life is pretty great on it too. Might be worth a look - it's also entirely user serviceable, which is nice.
(DIR) Post #AmMbUUO6eSKH4Cip4S by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T13:46:54Z
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@rateexportpilot @starlabssystems Thanks – I would have but I’ll be giving @system76 a miss after this interaction:https://ar.al/2024/06/23/fedora-has-been-shipping-with-a-broken-screen-reader-for-nine-years-but-the-real-problem-is-me/
(DIR) Post #AmMbYyf42N4c7InI6C by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T13:47:44Z
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@wariat Yep, the setting is on but, while tap to click is on, it still registers taps as clicks while typing.
(DIR) Post #AmMbdYZYSjPkeSOtwO by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T13:48:34Z
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@entropealabs Thanks, I’m on desktop too usually but currently visiting family. I’d have considered System76 (and was previously a fan of their work, but not after this: https://ar.al/2024/06/23/fedora-has-been-shipping-with-a-broken-screen-reader-for-nine-years-but-the-real-problem-is-me/)
(DIR) Post #AmMbgR1iyPiC7MwuYq by hyde@lazybear.social
2024-09-25T13:48:45Z
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@aral so 3hours and 15 minutes more or less a couple of minutes. I put a movie in loop to see, and had signal opened, and librewolf with 188 tabs opened
(DIR) Post #AmMboinemFrvYaJvzk by acesabe@mastodon.social
2024-09-25T13:50:26Z
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@aralAccording to this post https://community.frame.work/t/solved-disable-touchpad-while-typing-ubuntu-linux/26477/6touchpad is auto disabled while typing by default in Ubuntu 22.04 (and newer presumably) I don't know what flavour distro you are using but it's a pretty popular query/request but I'm not seeing a lot of extensions/apps etc to manage this behaviour (messing with lib configs yes, gui not so much)@bitnik @linuxgnome
(DIR) Post #AmMcBXRx8uHB12357I by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T13:54:03Z
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@hyde Thanks :)
(DIR) Post #AmMcSrmenKzP0FzmUq by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T13:57:44Z
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@acesabe @bitnik @linuxgnome Yeah, it’s set as disabled in GNOME for me under Fedora but that doesn’t disable tap-to-click.
(DIR) Post #AmMcc3OazWQVch7c80 by GuerillaOntologist@social.coop
2024-09-25T13:59:13Z
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@aral @linuxgnome Shitty. Plasma has a specific setting for turning off the touchpad when typing, so maybe it's a DE thing and not a linux thing? No idea about the battery life and other issues though. I've never owned a new laptop, so battery life on mine has always been low and I've always just assumed it's the age of the battery and not the OS. Not great to find out otherwise 🙄
(DIR) Post #AmMcjvBhOO4UU0qCmG by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-25T14:00:42Z
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@GuerillaOntologist @linuxgnome GNOME has that too. And it’s on. So it’s either an issue in GNOME where tap-to-click isn’t disabled as part of that or it’s an issue with @starlabssystems StarLite firmware.
(DIR) Post #AmMcvKdT7NN6asGria by GuerillaOntologist@social.coop
2024-09-25T14:02:39Z
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@aral @linuxgnome @starlabssystems 🤦♂️ my condolences...
(DIR) Post #AmMcyjXOzMtKhA3V3Y by acesabe@mastodon.social
2024-09-25T14:02:52Z
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@aralHave you checked the gconf setting for this or maybe just try the following?gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing trueFrom:https://ostechnix.com/how-to-automatically-disable-touchpad-when-typing-in-ubuntu/@bitnik @linuxgnome
(DIR) Post #AmMdYn0PZZ5tsLoj4K by wariat@mastodon.social
2024-09-25T14:10:02Z
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@aral Strange. It's working here since… ok not always but really long time.And i'm not using any fancy current hardware. Now it is thinkpad released in 2016 (or something like that). :>
(DIR) Post #AmMhYIKs0EBoZSPEsS by starlabssystems@mastodon.social
2024-09-25T14:54:47Z
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@aral @GuerillaOntologist @linuxgnome Hi Aral,After a brief chat in the office, I've been told it's an issue with GNOME.I spent the best part of the day trying to construct a reply to that effect without feeling like I was finger-pointing because, on the company account, that's a no-go.And then I went down this rabbit hole: https://ar.al/2024/06/23/fedora-has-been-shipping-with-a-broken-screen-reader-for-nine-years-but-the-real-problem-is-me/
(DIR) Post #AmMwsKYGyHRqY3gePo by Anachron@fosstodon.org
2024-09-25T17:46:25Z
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@aral that's a bummer, I was hoping for around 4 hours of battery with light usage (videos with hardware decoding, browsing, reading, etc).The trackpad issue sounds suspicious though,- I'll keep watching this topic/issue and hope it will be figured out until I receive mine.Thanks for your feedback!
(DIR) Post #AmN1Px0fPEaTCFFrjE by BrianA@mastodon.online
2024-09-25T18:37:15Z
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@aral Though it turns out this isn't actually a starlabs issue, I had nothing but problems with the hardware of the starlabs labtop mk 4 I had a while back and I would never buy another starlabs device.They replaced the motherboard under warranty for me when the wireless and bluetooth died. But a few months latet when the warranty had just expired, the new motherboard had the same issue. Then there was issues with bad backlight bleeding, firmware problems, and other small papercuts.
(DIR) Post #AmNzvZp58zlRnfkUHg by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-26T05:55:28Z
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@starlabssystems @GuerillaOntologist @linuxgnome Thank you for looking into it. Good to know :)
(DIR) Post #AmO5mjgPiLRZV2rUmG by bebna@chaos.social
2024-09-26T07:01:01Z
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@aral uff Gnomedidn't expect you to use such a fat monsterGnome overrides settings you have to check with```bashgsettings get org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing```that tool can also set```bashgsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing true```u can find all options here: https://github.com/GNOME/gsettings-desktop-schemas/blob/master/schemas/org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.gschema.xml.in
(DIR) Post #AmO75YoUS4LvFCBCZE by bebna@chaos.social
2024-09-26T07:04:59Z
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@aral otherwise palm detection should take care of most problems.How is the keyboard u use designed? how are you hands positioned on it ?
(DIR) Post #AmO75ZYvfPV1ZDuHx2 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-26T07:15:41Z
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@bebna Thanks, yeah, the issue appears to be that GNOME doesn’t disable tap to click as part of disabling the trackpad while typing.