Post AmL5PWhLF9Az5oLhHU by LightFIAR@med-mastodon.com
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(DIR) Post #AmKxUQUSx3Cxee9TyC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-24T18:43:54Z
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Meta and friends – like Mastodon and Vivaldi – form Social Web Foundation.May I be the first to say:Fuck the Social Web Foundation.https://socialwebfoundation.orgI am so fucking sick of this bullshit happening over and over again. I’d say they’re useful idiots but, let’s face it, Mastodon aren’t idiots. Vivaldi aren’t idiots. They’re smart folks. They know full well what Meta is. They clearly just don’t give a shit.#SocialWebFoundation #Meta #BigTech #surveillance #capitalism #peopleFarming
(DIR) Post #AmKy8lWk9m52TxS7FI by fifilamoura@eldritch.cafe
2024-09-24T18:51:14Z
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@aral This is how structural inequalities get perpetuated and designed (unconsciously) into new systems, business as usual. Believing and even being "one of the good guys" doesn't prevent that, it actually kinds of guarantees it. Sure, nobody likes having to deal with resistance to their ambitions but you only get closer to equality and real systemic change when you let that resistance achieve actual momentum rather than getting mad it's preventing business as usual. Actual innovation and change IS often uncomfortable, especially for those who are comfortable.
(DIR) Post #AmKyEmoMIMniCbYwzI by cmccullough@social.vivaldi.net
2024-09-24T18:52:19Z
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@aral They lost me at, "Follow us on X." Yeah, nope.
(DIR) Post #AmKyLdDANyZuSKQkWO by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-24T18:53:23Z
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@fifilamoura It’s definitely not unconscious on Meta’s part. They’re being legitimised to high heaven with this.
(DIR) Post #AmKyZzQOaryzP5Sshk by bytebro@mendeddrum.org
2024-09-24T18:52:25Z
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@aral Just pick a different instance where that does not happen. Splendidly 'Meta'-free where I am, at least so far.
(DIR) Post #AmKya0A7qqYvgurOz2 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-24T18:56:10Z
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@bytebro Oh you mean one of the instances not approved by the Social Media Foundation? The Dark Fediverse? I don’t know… I hear only questionably people hang out there…
(DIR) Post #AmKyld3fZsntVgNvWK by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-24T18:58:15Z
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@bob It goes far beyond advertising. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/why-did-meta-just-hire-this-ron-desantis-approved-project-2025-alum/ar-AA1pti16
(DIR) Post #AmKzGKcCCO9PHqAs2S by Radgryd@mstdn.games
2024-09-24T19:03:50Z
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@aral I thought the people working on it seemed pretty okay? But it confused me they want to build things for the Fediverse and aren't.. on the Fediverse. What.
(DIR) Post #AmL22M8Y2lzBoaKndg by berenice_@nerdculture.de
2024-09-24T19:34:51Z
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@aral Agreed. Where do we go? (Honest question) Tried Nostr, noped the fck out after two hours. What's the alternative to the "alternative"?
(DIR) Post #AmL2suyHm7DYuVb7bc by fifilamoura@eldritch.cafe
2024-09-24T19:44:18Z
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@aral Oh, definitely. I don't know enough about the foundation to comment on it directly but Meta should not be viewed as benign (no matter how lovely and well intentioned the employees the corporation uses to interface with a project like this is). I'd say it's hugely problematic in the face of the CEO claiming he's apolitical as a way to dodge both personal and corporate accountability. It is, of course, not an apolitical stance, merely a stance that refuses ethical responsibility.
(DIR) Post #AmL2z0IsrYhXBZ8OYK by unexpectedteapot@social.linux.pizza
2024-09-24T19:45:29Z
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@aral I mean even Meta aside, the thing screams consolidation of culture and power over the online communities from "leaders" to defining (and I bet trademarking/copyrighting soon) the Social Web as their own. It's intended as a counter measure against ATProto because they're scared of competition.I did want to ask you a few days ago of your thoughts on a ActivityPub+Small Web (i.e: running Fedify on Kitten) framework experiment
(DIR) Post #AmL3Vwkp52N1jXuXbM by BeAware@social.beaware.live
2024-09-24T19:51:22Z
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@aral called this like 9 months ahead of time....🤦♂️😒
(DIR) Post #AmL4pjatooX2fFGifI by danslerush@floss.social
2024-09-24T20:06:14Z
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@aral Shit... I've been duped. On paper I was happy with an initiative (which I thought would be autonomous) to consolidate Fediverse, with something in common.I should have seen the "foundation".I should have seen the sponsors.I should have seen the "San Francisco" ...Anyway, once again, thanks for the info 🖖
(DIR) Post #AmL55JdS6IYQmttOl6 by carpetbomberz@mastodon.online
2024-09-24T20:09:02Z
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@aral The minute I sense or detect an algorithm on this instance, that instance, any instance. Any insertion or non-chronological presentation of people I follow. I'm getting my account deleted with extreme prejudice and never comin' back on ANY instance. It's the only way to be SURE.
(DIR) Post #AmL5PWhLF9Az5oLhHU by LightFIAR@med-mastodon.com
2024-09-24T20:12:39Z
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@aral How about just a hearty FUCK YOU to each of these nice people?https://socialwebfoundation.org/team/
(DIR) Post #AmL6RLfjJC4DQh1mdc by meerkat@mstdn.social
2024-09-24T20:24:11Z
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@aral from their site:"We want the Fediverse to be financially viable.[...] people building clients or running providers [...] need money. Whether that’s advertising supported, or funded by charities and non-profits, or based on paid-for services, or affiliate revenue..""We want the Fediverse to be healthy.Want a service [...] that recommends content that corresponds with your faith or personal interests?"FUCK NO. Shove your ads and algorithms up your asses 😠
(DIR) Post #AmL9XfQ56Ga8H9PeiG by condalmo@mstdn.social
2024-09-24T20:58:57Z
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@aral Meta being part of the Social Web Foundation ( @swf ) is like having Henry Potter on the board at the Bailey Building and Loan.
(DIR) Post #AmL9wIrs5H7zZX9uWu by metaperez@mastodon.social
2024-09-24T21:03:25Z
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@aral Hmmm... I admit that seeing the Ford Foundation and Meta in this body is not very encouraging. Maybe it is better to give 100 days of leeway before issuing a critique?
(DIR) Post #AmLAWBV6x5yh9GceSe by chomwitt@mastodon.social
2024-09-24T21:09:53Z
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@aral Having lived that with linux and free software many time in the past i am not impressed . So let anyone sleep with anyone. Dont believe anyone intentions. Many foss organizations where promoting github before Microsoft bought it and learn that their work is food for corpoporte AI .Ironically the same foss organization happily co-lynched RMS when dirty MIT administration used him as scepegoat.
(DIR) Post #AmLBI6xX8n1sxllnk0 by chomwitt@mastodon.social
2024-09-24T21:18:33Z
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@aral Then i stressed in various diaspora and various forums that an important issue is the ethics of donations.We must improve our sensitivity and ability to detect sponsor-hunters that dont give a dime about ethics (in society and in ecology ).For christ's sake. Even FSF were getting a lot of money from google.
(DIR) Post #AmLFXPnNn1wHXjZhtg by Kissell@mastodon.social
2024-09-24T22:06:05Z
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@aral Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The enemy is twitter, defeat them first, then worry about the next fight.
(DIR) Post #AmLJDDS8MzAxHuGAgC by bigTanuki@social.linux.pizza
2024-09-24T22:47:22Z
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@aral Everybody wants to part of a larger group, and usually like inviting someone rich to the party hoping they will bring big treats for everyone.
(DIR) Post #AmLJdnfaL39F8rEBRg by mick@cosocial.ca
2024-09-24T22:52:11Z
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@aral It’s easy to shout at these people for failing your purity test, but when you take a look at who’s involved, what they have contributed to making ActivityPub a thing where you can shout at people for failing your purity test….Not to diminish the value that your shouting at people on the Fediverse brings to the Fediverse. It really wouldn’t be the place it is today without people like you here to loudly denounce strangers for doing things you disagree with.
(DIR) Post #AmLMVNVK2Mt7XL6S1I by tkk13909@fosstodon.org
2024-09-24T23:24:14Z
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@aral I have been undecided for a while but I've come to the conclusion that we should not let Meta into the Fediverse. Let them do their own thing and interoperate with ActivityPub as anyone else can but DO NOT give them any control over our platform. If they come to our project then they must do so on our terms.
(DIR) Post #AmLOTHqaIaj9JxB9TU by chomwitt@mastodon.social
2024-09-24T23:46:18Z
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@aral The purity of con-arts is most impressive here.Data piggies that occasionaly need a clean towel to wipe out that mud of their faces that makes them look bad to new customers and new sheeps .. you know .. little boring stuff .. eternal greed .. direspect for democracy .. apathy to cultivating dark narcissist traits to children .. as i said boring stuff..
(DIR) Post #AmLOW8SbefiX4qK0Aq by chomwitt@mastodon.social
2024-09-24T23:46:48Z
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@aral The purity of con-arts is most impressive here.Data piggies that occasionaly need a clean towel to wipe out that mud of their faces that makes them look bad to new customers and new sheeps .. you know .. little boring stuff .. eternal greed .. direspect for democracy .. apathy to cultivating dark narcissist traits to children .. as i said boring stuff..
(DIR) Post #AmLPR7RM7WxoQ3uOEC by shonin@mastodon.world
2024-09-24T23:57:08Z
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@aral Once Zuck figures out a way to get his hands on us I'mma, and people like me will, bail, which may be the point. I began with Usenet. This is my last social refuge. I don't see another arriving.
(DIR) Post #AmLPXKsd42XXq8d6gq by johentsch@hostux.social
2024-09-24T23:58:13Z
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@aralSomething seems off
(DIR) Post #AmLW5LuoJydocaFnTk by getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz
2024-09-24T18:47:28.526642Z
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@aral finally, i don't feel alone being worried that the Social Web Foundation will go the way of other similar entities like the Linux Foundation.
(DIR) Post #AmLhfAbovyXjTaeYDo by gclef@social.vivaldi.net
2024-09-25T03:21:02Z
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@aral Agree 100%@swf folks seem to forget (or choose to ignore) the fact that we purposely moved to the Fediverse to get away from the toxicity and tracking of meta and the x-bird site.In response I've already blocked:@swf@evan@cosocial.ca@evan@evanprodromou@evanp.me@evanprodromou@ohmallory@tomcoates@me.dm@tomcoates@bird.makeup
(DIR) Post #AmOFruHSjtapMCINlI by chomwitt@mastodon.social
2024-09-26T08:40:47Z
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@shonin @aral As i said Zuck has got already what (he) wants. A clean towel with the magic specks of fediverse foss and all that good conotations that come of it to smearoff the mud of his face. In corrupted countries the most fast way for mobs to clean their public image is by making donations to public institutios with a good face.
(DIR) Post #AmOFrv3fqe9pliqsuO by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-09-26T08:54:01Z
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@chomwitt @shonin Yep.