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 (DIR) Post #Alz6r5ZTWGBTXrG2dM by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T05:45:40Z
       
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       Rafah in 2023 vs. Rafah today.
       
 (DIR) Post #Alz7Tu2OKoux4HI6k4 by LassieBodo@troet.cafe
       2024-09-14T05:52:41Z
       
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       @ErikUden das macht fassungslos 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
       
 (DIR) Post #Alz7o3VepNSgEjacGO by Unknowable@troet.cafe
       2024-09-14T05:56:19Z
       
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       @ErikUden Ja! Also ich die Bilder das erste Mal sah, hab ich am Abend dann Musik dazu improvisiert. Killing Fields. https://soundcloud.com/user-94892337/killingfields?si=d4dc933fee194378826edde747ba108b&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
       
 (DIR) Post #Alz9kqpRia7hwnRfLE by zeemeermin@mastodon.social
       2024-09-14T06:18:10Z
       
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       @ErikUden Why using this image? One could argument that it's a close up of a terrace tile. And I even suspect it is.If you use picture to make your point,  try to use real an verifiable pictures.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzAHJf63Kvydd5KBU by alex_w@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T06:24:02Z
       
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       @ErikUden Schrecklich.Und unfassbar wie wenig die Weltgemeinschaft wirklich tut und zusieht was Israel da anrichtet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzAlU1Q6BubSNuYbI by mad@freiburg.social
       2024-09-14T06:29:28Z
       
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       @ErikUden They seem to have missed or forgotten one building.(End of Ironie, I am speechless)
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzB06COxD1duo17VA by olafke@muenchen.social
       2024-09-14T06:32:07Z
       
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       @ErikUden riecht stark nach einem Fake. Das rechte Bild sieht bei näherer Betrachtung wie die Oberfläche eines Steins aus. Was ist denn die Quelle?
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzGAtmvw8wYNd4dEG by Raccoon@techhub.social
       2024-09-14T07:30:07Z
       
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       @ErikUdenHorrifying.  I don't know what they will even have at the end of this, but it just makes peace seem so far away...
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzGvQTsiav75zLeZU by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T07:38:32Z
       
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       It's important to note that before the destruction of Rafah, it was declared as a safezone by Israel. People across the entire country were told to flee here. Just three months into this conflict, over one million refugees had to make this city their new home. As a result of this, the Rafah offensive was heavily criticized and Israel was ordered to stop, by the United States, the ICJ, the EU, all EU member states independently, China, Australia, Brazil... [Source]Was there any response when this red line was crossed? No, there were no (economic) sanctions or otherwise political consequences, despite this obvious human rights violation. The refugee encampment in Rafah was specifically bombed as well. [[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_al-Sultan_attack]]Just last month the official safezone was changed again, into a much smaller and much more crammed area. The entire population of Gaza should move again into a space that could never support them and that is subject to change any time. Abiding by these human rights violating orders is suicide. However, high up from our ivory tower, people are criticizing refugees of a country for not fleeing when they were told to do so. Blaming the victims for their death, as they could've always fled. In a debate in Germany I was even told that by continuing to stay in their home, these people support Hamas. I have no words for such a sentiment; refugees deserve support no matter what.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzHQy65me70KdGH3I by ghard@mastodon.social
       2024-09-14T07:44:13Z
       
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       @ErikUden This is a pogrom - no less.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzIL0P0OtQlhIpQqO by urwumpe@hessen.social
       2024-09-14T07:54:20Z
       
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       @ErikUden The military is always a bad tool to hunt criminals. But Hamas isn't the usual criminal, its a criminal with military grade weapons. If you want to respect the "elected" government (elected like Hitler) of Gaza, Israel bombing it is ok. That is war. And what does Hamas do to protect their civilians? Less than nothing, right?If not, the world still has to end a criminal and inhumane dictatorship. And the best options would still be ugly.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzIVN1r87yMlhwWX2 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T07:56:13Z
       
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       Bellingcat ( @Bellingcat ) has also produced these visuals in order to compare and see the destruction of Rafah. I highly recommend their reporting on it:Satellite Imagery Shows Vast Destruction in Rafah
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzJOy5F3zpPcP2OsC by LassieBodo@troet.cafe
       2024-09-14T08:06:15Z
       
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       @ErikUden beschämend
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzJW9kQ5wB5oyj4L2 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T08:07:34Z
       
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       Two thirds of all public infrastructure (also in Tall as Sultan) being destroyed, and the entire surrounding area flattened into a desert, does not count as a “major military operation” nor a crossing of any red lines! In May, U.S. President Joe Biden set a “red line” for Israel during an interview with CNN. If the Israel Defense Forces went into Rafah’s population centres, such as Tall As Sultan, his administration was going to start limiting what weapons the U.S. would provide Israel. When asked about the red line days later, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken clarified that the president specifically referred to a “major military operation” in Rafah.The Biden administration’s position has not changed since then. Bellingcat asked the US State Department whether the IDF had crossed any red lines but had not received an answer by the time of publication. — @Bellingcat, Satellite Imagery Shows Vast Destruction in Rafah from August 27th 2024
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzJubgxqmC7RGliQS by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T08:11:59Z
       
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       @zeemeermin this is a picture by Planet Labs and it shows the city of Rafah. https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240222-france-under-pressure-to-suspend-military-sales-to-israel-as-war-in-gaza-grinds-on
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzJwtGHUvDyVdNPY8 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T08:12:25Z
       
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       @olafke Planet Labshttps://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240222-france-under-pressure-to-suspend-military-sales-to-israel-as-war-in-gaza-grinds-on
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzK4buBubASzpj27U by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T08:13:49Z
       
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       @olafke und Bellingcat (meistens verlinke Ich die Quelle des Bilds in der Bildbeschreibung)https://mastodon.de/@ErikUden/113134834362782471
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzKGC4zl0QuNGIndw by pmj@social.pmj.rocks
       2024-09-14T08:15:51Z
       
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       @ErikUden that's why i think the hamas-attack was deliberately not preventedi mean, israel has one of if not the best intelligence on the planet and they couldn't prevent it?!it was a perfect opportunity for ultra-nationalist netanyahu to get rid of gaza once and for alli bet they will move in settlers as soon as they can
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzKMlCs4JZ73Y7KvQ by zeemeermin@mastodon.social
       2024-09-14T08:17:05Z
       
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       @ErikUden I know the pictures I used are a pictures of Rafah. I took it from Reuters.I meant the picture you shared on the right, as an after picture.If you want to make a point, show pictures that actually show something. Using a picture that can also be a close up of a terrace tile, doesn't do anyone any favors.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzL6IQdOex57jGgoC by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T08:25:18Z
       
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       @zeemeermin maybe video is a better format?
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzLOKqV9FwHphy8LQ by zeemeermin@mastodon.social
       2024-09-14T08:28:34Z
       
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       @ErikUden it is.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzLgBgVwoi6dIoHy4 by DrSeltsam@digitalcourage.social
       2024-09-14T08:31:47Z
       
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       @ErikUden friendly reminder: Hamas could have ended this by releasing the hostages. They didn’t.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzLk0IGF38CSiHlZI by lyricismist@mastodon.social
       2024-09-14T08:32:28Z
       
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       @ErikUden
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzNRjFP50iCI4MXg0 by ksued@social.cologne
       2024-09-14T08:51:23Z
       
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       @ErikUden Ja, Krieg ist das schrecklichste, was Menschen einander antun können. Er erzeugt furchtbares Leid.Aber - die Hamas hat mit ihrem Angriff und der Geiselnahme dieses Szenario ausgelöst und wahrscheinlich auf genau diese Reaktion Israels spekuliert. Sie könnte den Krieg und das fürchterliche Elend der eigenen Bevölkerung sofort beenden, indem die Geisel freigelassen würden. Stattdessen nutzt sie Gazas Bevölkerung immer wieder als Schutzschild für ihre militärische Strukturen. Perfide.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzNa8Ixni82Jz2F3g by radicalresilience@todon.nl
       2024-09-14T08:53:05Z
       
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       @ErikUden @olafke probably better to link the source in the post as well? I for example mostly use mastodon in browser on a smartphone and I still haven't found a way to see the alt text so would not have access to the source. Especially when so much misinformation is going on these days a post like this is basically useless to me without source.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzNlpdb1yPntvGSNE by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T08:55:14Z
       
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       @DrSeltsam Nope. I will not justify the murdering of innocent 41,118 people killed for a terrorist organization with maximum 25,000 members. Could Hamas have prevented this? Maybe, but Israel could've also not committed this. It's clear to anyone within both the Israeli or world governments, but these actions will not damage Hamas or “convince” them to stop. Israel's invasion and destruction of civilian infrastructure is Hamas' number 1 recruitment tool. On the other hand, why would the Israeli government want to end their regime? It's what's keeping the current government in power. Just like with Putin, the war is a solution for the internal conflict. If this was about the hostages, the Israeli government would not have invaded and murdered these innocent people. The speaker of the Israeli families of the hostages also said that the Israeli government is specifically preventing a hostage deal [Source: The Times of Israel.Israel could've prevented the murder of innocent civilians by not murdering innocent civilians.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzNyH2kxjeiNDxw8G by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T08:57:28Z
       
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       @radicalresilience @olafke Well, I made a thread detailing further information about these images. I understand your complaint, if it is possible I'll link to the article within the post!
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzOEY3LUOenlF09dQ by radicalresilience@todon.nl
       2024-09-14T09:00:22Z
       
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       @ErikUden @olafke yep, got distracted while writing that reply so I had only seen the first post and replies speculating it was a fake! Still maybe good to know that not all have (easy) access to alt text so not the best as only place for vital information.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzQoyGLienXNlZykq by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T09:29:22Z
       
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       @ksuedErstmal möchte Ich sagen, dass die Idee das die Hamas die „Bevölkerung Gazas” als Schutzschild kommt, kann außerhalb den Aussagen des Israelischen Militärs nicht unabhängig verifiziert werden (schreibt [Amnesty International](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/07/israelgaza-conflict-questions-and-answers/), [Human Rights Watch](https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/08/06/rockets-gaza/harm-civilians-palestinian-armed-groups-rocket-attacks)). So oder so sollte „die nutzen menschliche Schutzschilder” als Argument ausschließlich dafür dienen die Gruppe die so etwas tut als schlecht anzusehen, nicht um die Taten der eigenen zu rechtfertigen. Selbst wenn die Behauptung zu diesen grad stimmen würde wie die IDF behauptet, dann wäre doch die logische Konsequenz nicht unschuldige Zivilist:innen umzubringen? Aber nein, das Argument wird so umgedreht das die Schuld aufeinmal bei den Opfern selbst ist. Was ist ein menschliches Schutzschild? Wenn man z.B. direkt eine Person gewaltsam vor sich hält um selbst keine Kugel abzubekommen? Wenn man Menschen der anderen Seite des Konflikts lebendig auf Autos klebt, damit ihre Kameraden nicht schießen? Wenn man Menschen Geisel nimmt damit diese als erstes in eine Falle kommen? Wenn man seine militärischen Stützpunkte strategisch nah an zivilen Zentren baut?All diese Dinge hat z.B. das israelische Militär gemacht. [Quelle: [Democracy Now!](https://www.democracynow.org/2024/6/24/headlines/idf_straps_palestinian_man_to_military_vehicle_as_a_human_shield_in_occupied_west_bank ), [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/14/israeli-forces-in-gaza-use-civilians-as-human-shields-against-possible-booby-traps),[Wikipedia KaKirya](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaKirya?wprov=sfla1))Rechtfertigt das nun die Ermordung von unschuldigen Zivilisten oder den 7. Oktober? Nein... Offensichtlich nicht. Die Hamas hat kein „Recht” darauf Zivilist:innen zu ermorden, auch wenn das israelische Militär menschliche Schutzschilder nutzt. Stell dir vor die Hamas hätte gesagt das sie dieses Konzert angreifen und Geiseln nehmen mussten, weil, „die Israelische Regierung benutzt menschliche Schutzschilder”, das ergibt genau so viel Sinn wie wenn das israelische Militär in jeder Universität, jedem Krankenhaus, jeden Kindergarten, jede Schule, und in jedem Flüchtlingslager in Gaza Menschen willkürlich gefangen nimmt oder ermordet, weil „die Hamas benutzt menschliche Schutzschilder”. Vorher behauptete das israelische Militär z.B., dass das al-Shifa Krankenhaus ein „Hamas Kommandozentrale” sei, später, nachdem sie es eingenommen haben, stellte sich das als falsch heraus [Quelle: [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-hamas-israel/)] Ich empfehle diese Sektion eines Videos von Some More News, welches sich jedes Argument zum Konflikt anschaut und diese unabhängig und mit Quellenangaben überprüft::youtube: https://youtu.be/LrGlRax9AiY?t=737
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzS4CAYOh6koJgxSi by trashpanda@nerdculture.de
       2024-09-14T09:43:21Z
       
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       @ErikUden @Bellingcat the Military and the goverment of Israel are very likely using forced displacment as a punishment against the people in Gaza. That is a war crime and should be prosecuted. People in Gaza Need Help to rebuild what they have lost and settlers from Israel should never be allowed to Take homes in the area of Gaza. Also true: Hamas is actively using civillian neighbourhoods and infrastructure to attac Israel and use those areas as staging and Combat areas. I am Happy that this is at least somewhat mentioned in the article as well. The Goal of Hamas is the total destruction of Israel and the displacment of jewish people in the whole region between the River and the see. Fighting Like that with that Goal in mind is a war crime too. And a crime against your own Population. I try not to use those arguemnts to jusitfy one or the other, but i have the Feeling that the role of the Hamas in the whole Situation is downplayed and that this will Not solve anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzXCTr31j6PkSL1pA by MeltingPenguins@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T10:40:53Z
       
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       @ErikUden And yet those motherfuckers genuinely believe that when they bring forth the end of days and 'the rapture' they'll be rewarded for it. By a god who allegedly delights in human misery.if they gleefully make promises with no intention to keep them to get people to do what benefits them, it's amazing to see them believing that a god they make out to be just the same kind of rot as them would do so .
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzeSRt6o3FpxdrbFY by sichkovskyi@social.noleron.com
       2024-09-14T12:02:10Z
       
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       @ErikUden Yeah it's scary amazing how fast any big city can be destroyed completely, made into a wasteland.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzjDZBrsB182KMRFY by kikebenlloch@mastodon.social
       2024-09-14T12:55:32Z
       
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       @ErikUden You just got a couple of genocide justifiers in the replies, wow.
       
 (DIR) Post #Alzp94UoeRcdPFSndQ by johnmastodon@mastodon.online
       2024-09-14T14:01:54Z
       
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       @ErikUden And while some argue about the source and legitimacy of the pictures, Israel laughs its ass out and keep shooting and bombing. Instead of questioning the obvious, do your own homework in places as easy to access as Google Earth and see for yourself!
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzvvB9pmoVhgwyKf2 by DrSeltsam@digitalcourage.social
       2024-09-14T15:17:50Z
       
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       @ErikUden I see your point. I’m the same way it wasn’t fair to bomb the 66 Mio people in the 3rd Reich just because of the couple of Nazis that bought all the terror to Europe. #neveragain https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Koeln_1945.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #Am00FM5pEpmBDPyPJo by TechEd@techhub.social
       2024-09-14T16:06:20Z
       
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       @ErikUden  The Palestinian civilians should be allowed into Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt while Israel destroys the underground infrastructure that Hamas and other terror groups have used to attack Israel. Unfortunately, the last time Jordan took Palestinians in, they tried to overthrow the country.
       
 (DIR) Post #Am00ILF6r87tRmjvyS by tod@hci.social
       2024-09-14T16:06:51Z
       
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       @ErikUden @zeemeermin The image you posted (on the right) is most definitely not a city, and I think you know it. Please post the URL from Reuters and/or Planet Labs. Not the “I swear that’s where I got it from,” but post the actual URL. We’ll wait.
       
 (DIR) Post #Am00Zc35clsgUeLxQm by pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se
       2024-09-14T16:10:00Z
       
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       @ErikUden """""""""""""red line"""""""""""
       
 (DIR) Post #Am00mSDDVYx1kZDHjE by hipsauerkraut@social.vivaldi.net
       2024-09-14T16:12:17Z
       
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       @ErikUden Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?
       
 (DIR) Post #Am01arRRym9mTeuHGy by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-14T16:21:27Z
       
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       @pettter RED LINE https://mastodon.de/@ErikUden/113134879031496830
       
 (DIR) Post #Am02efL90zNS3bKqtE by tod@hci.social
       2024-09-14T16:33:20Z
       
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       @ErikUden@amaury_h Now looking closer, I do see similar structures (notably the circular buildings). I’m sorry for my previous post, which I’ve now deleted.I do still think it’s worth us citing verifiable sources so that people (like me, clearly) who come along and only give it a passing glance can be assured of its authenticity. Even a URL to its page on the satellite site. It’s horrifying. All of it is so horrifying.
       
 (DIR) Post #Am0WtyBiDbpzTu8Ys4 by xs4me2@mastodon.social
       2024-09-14T22:12:13Z
       
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       @ErikUden Unforgivable is what it is...
       
 (DIR) Post #Am1uGfxyckeLjTT6p6 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2024-09-15T14:08:46Z
       
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       @DrSeltsam interesting comparison! Let's put it to the test:4.3 million Nazi soldiers were killed by the allied forces during World War 2.The highest estimate of civilian deaths caused by the bombing of the allied forces is 500.000 people in Germany.That makes this a civilian casulty rate of ~11%. That was with bombs that couldn't even be targeted, as they were arbitrarily thrown off of airplanes in the hopes that they land.Modern day Israel has one of the most advanced weapon systems in the world. The fact that Hamas has a maximum of 25.000 members, but Gaza has over two million citizens, yet the war is against the entire population of Gaza, makes it seem like there is no real effort of fighting terrorism. Additionally, the casulty rate should be lower than in medieval world war two. According to the IDF, their own civilian casulty rate is 66%, meaning two innocent civilians die for every one terrorist being killed, however, human rights organizations put the number at 90%. Meaning 9 civilians die for every terrorist being killed.If the allied forces during World War 2 would've had this civilian casulty rate, but still killed 4.3 million Nazi soldiers, then they would have needed to kill more than 50% of everyone in Germany (~40 million people) So, absolutely, the allied forces were completely justified in bombing Germany, because back in the day bombs couldn't be this precise, and it was the only way to overthrow Nazi Germany and free Europe and Asia from fascism.Nowadays, where bombs can be much more precise, of course we should encourage less civilian deaths. It can be especially criticized if your civilian death rates are worse than just randomly dropping bombs in wars 70 years ago. The allied forces never dropped bombs onto a refugee camp. The allied forces didn't even take out every hospital, school, or kindergarten in Nazi-Germany. Maybe the civilian death rate for Israel would be more humane if they'd stop bombing civilians.
       
 (DIR) Post #Am4QfJSf1JMk1UX3Ng by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
       2024-09-16T19:21:12Z
       
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       @ErikUden it’s impossible.