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(DIR) Post #Am4FKJKpCD3k3PeLui by ErikUden@mastodon.de
2024-09-16T17:14:09Z
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I guess I'll be a crusader for the pope then. How the turn tables.
(DIR) Post #Am4Fsg7MznV2YmkCIa by tarmoamer@est.social
2024-09-16T17:20:22Z
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@ErikUden It's good thinking from the pope, but the problem is, very few who call themselves Marxists have any idea what Marx actually said and equally very few who call themselves Christians are actually living by what Christ preached.Dialogue is good, but between whom?
(DIR) Post #Am4GcNXuNV2yHTwtU0 by tenkoman@sueden.social
2024-09-16T17:28:37Z
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@ErikUden "And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves." Matthew 21:12–13Jesus was a darn commie
(DIR) Post #Am4GlLKJzwXo0LrtUu by ErikUden@mastodon.de
2024-09-16T17:30:13Z
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I've been looking into this — The “Red Pope”, as some people have begun calling Pope Francis, made a similar statement a few days ago. This article by AP News raised far more questions than answers!First of all, the Pope says:“China for me is an illusion, in the sense that I want to visit China. A great country. I admire China. I respect China. It’s a country with a millennial culture, with a capacity for dialogue and understanding that goes beyond other systems of democracy. I think China is a promise and a hope for the church” These were meetings to renew some sort of 2018 agreement about the contentious issue of bishop nominations. Apparently China wants a share of the pope’s exclusive right to name the successors of the original Apostles. The government of China wants to nominate bishops themselves, in the name of national sovereignty. What will this new agreement lead to?The meeting also aimed to unite the country’s estimated 12 million Catholics, who were divided into an official, state-recognized church and an underground church that stayed loyal to Rome.How is this the first time I heard of an „underground church”? This sounds like such a fascinating story, just in case some indie film makers are out there looking for a story...
(DIR) Post #Am4GrxSJ9IXzzql3rs by ErikUden@mastodon.de
2024-09-16T17:31:27Z
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@tenkoman most strict religious extremists would crucifix Jesus for being “too woke”
(DIR) Post #Am4GyXv8UC28pPNqRk by IngridAusOL@norden.social
2024-09-16T17:32:38Z
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@ErikUden Ach herrje!!! Der sieht in jedem Menschen einen potentiellen Katholiken.Gut, dass die Wirklichkeit eine andere ist.
(DIR) Post #Am4H8C4MaCjfxCIequ by kadse@chaos.social
2024-09-16T17:34:22Z
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@ErikUden during the nazi times there were underground churches too, I guess?
(DIR) Post #Am4HQGELqoD44VaRuq by level2wizard@mastodon.social
2024-09-16T17:37:39Z
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@ErikUden as an excat, I don't see Francis as any different from other popes / catholic clergy in general -- catholics in general have perfected the art of saying something that a leftist would agree with (e.g. 'the us presidential election is between the lesser of two evils') which is merely blanketing the same ol' stuff they've always had (turns out 'lesser of two evils' is migrants vs. abortions instead of, say, genocide)
(DIR) Post #Am4IjYBnP8qTE59Zey by negativeprimes@urusai.social
2024-09-16T17:52:19Z
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@ErikUden Thank you for bringing visibility to this. I think it's unfortunate that Cardinal Zen, the most visible leader of the underground church, has been increasingly critical of Pope Francis precisely because of the latter's overtures toward the state-run church of China. It's a pretty messy situation, imo.
(DIR) Post #Am4JvUmpysCw6Pjsoa by ErikUden@mastodon.de
2024-09-16T18:05:42Z
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@kadse that I knew, which is why this is very fascinating to read about.
(DIR) Post #Am4K86kkeHBpKOmG8G by kadse@chaos.social
2024-09-16T18:07:54Z
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@ErikUden I see :3
(DIR) Post #Am4KoiFDe9nTlgLNmi by shellheim@social.linux.pizza
2024-09-16T18:15:40Z
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@ErikUden So now China wants to nominate pedophiles?
(DIR) Post #Am4PJM7mL0wTxRjNhI by nshr@hhsocial.de
2024-09-16T19:06:01Z
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@ErikUden Don Camillo and Popeone, a remake?