Post AlyPwuxvZFd6MRED5M by seyon@ciberlandia.pt
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 (DIR) Post #AlyPNjwmXfnk3Iv008 by fuxoft@kompost.cz
       2024-09-13T21:38:21Z
       
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       I was never a #Linux expert but I was using Ubuntu / Xubuntu for over 10 years now and everything mostly "just worked". Yesterday I wanted to update my Xubuntu from 22.04 to 24.04 and two of my three computers were completely borked when doing do-release-upgrade. One of them crashed in script "convert-dev.py" or something similar, the second uninstalled the package "xubuntu-desktop" and I lost all my installed with graphical output! I spent 20 hours fixing this. Disappointed...
       
 (DIR) Post #AlyPaiactrObbhkAjI by dusoft@fosstodon.org
       2024-09-13T21:40:33Z
       
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       @fuxoft Happens like once in a five years unfortunately...
       
 (DIR) Post #AlyPw3zsVGhM58jWGe by sesivany@social.vivaldi.net
       2024-09-13T21:44:33Z
       
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       @fuxoft That's why I'm slowly switching my computers to immutable OSes. If something breaks during update/upgrade, I just rollback to the previous snapshot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlyPwuxvZFd6MRED5M by seyon@ciberlandia.pt
       2024-09-13T21:44:36Z
       
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       @fuxoft something really wrong happened with this Ubuntu release, but they could somehow manage, barely... But everything that's based on just failed miserably.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlyQxZ7oM7LArpiwj2 by traecer@techhub.social
       2024-09-13T21:56:05Z
       
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       @fuxoft 24.04 has been known to have some upgrade problems
       
 (DIR) Post #AlyRhoyPlPwJLDNwG0 by fuxoft@kompost.cz
       2024-09-13T22:04:19Z
       
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       @sesivanySupposedly Mint does this. Any other deb-based distro?
       
 (DIR) Post #Alz3wvxLseGTbGWO48 by Marv@fosstodon.org
       2024-09-14T05:12:56Z
       
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       @fuxoft @sesivany Back to the roots. #Debian
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzAJc5wUSmYO0jlk8 by sesivany@social.vivaldi.net
       2024-09-14T06:24:14Z
       
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       @fuxoft I know three Debian-based distros which are immutable: Endless OS, Vanilla OS, Nitrux. But they have a specific target audience.An immutable OS also requires a change of habits. Since you cannot (normally) write to the OS itself, pretty much all work flows are container based.What could be a good compromise is having a file system that can do snapshots and a tool that makes a snapshot before every package operation like apt-btrfs-snapshot. If something breaks, you simply reboot to the snapshot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzLtfWUJxQWwIY5PE by fuxoft@kompost.cz
       2024-09-14T08:34:03Z
       
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       @sesivanyI've found out that Ubuntu 24.4 now also has immutable version.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlzMU5TNJkbJqWSU2i by sesivany@social.vivaldi.net
       2024-09-14T08:40:26Z
       
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       @fuxoft yes, they have something like Ubuntu Core Desktop, but I'm not sure if it's already officially out, or still just as a tech preview.