Post AloG4mJMgZUyiMlWbY by yoused@talkedabout.social
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 (DIR) Post #AloDi7xLqPaBHCXZ0S by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-09-08T23:40:38Z
       
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       What kind of law do we need to pass so pardons must be made public? The idea that people are creeping around with secret pardons like trap cards is absurd.
       
 (DIR) Post #AloG4mJMgZUyiMlWbY by yoused@talkedabout.social
       2024-09-09T00:07:07Z
       
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       @futurebird And adjudicated by courts.
       
 (DIR) Post #AloIlGrHhbmbWe1MWm by Orc@chaosfem.tw
       2024-09-09T00:31:02Z
       
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       @yoused @futurebird Pardons are theoretically a way for the executive to make up for misjustices issued by the courts, so having the courts involved in the pardoning process would be bad.Publishing pardons, yeah;  if the executive gives a pardon, they need to say that they did it at that time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AloIlHlILMaOKME5pY by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-09-09T00:37:12Z
       
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       @Orc @yoused They need to be published BEFORE the election, I have some qualms about that, as there have been unpopular pardons that were just, but it turns out that far far to many are just patronage, payback, favors for the well to do. They publicize the "touching stories" as cover for the rest of it... and the supreme court claimed the death penalty was OK because "well they COULD get a pardon"
       
 (DIR) Post #AloNbW0T1iprNiU2ka by log@mastodon.sdf.org
       2024-09-09T01:31:27Z
       
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       @futurebird Ah, this is tugging on my anarchist strings.  Pardon is a power derived from a king's prerogative.What we need is to remove the power of pardon from singular executives and award it to several juries-merciful, drawn from the citizenry by lottery to serve for three months.The absurdity is that mercy is kept locked inside an office in the capital, instead of allowed to fly to wherever it is needed.
       
 (DIR) Post #Alp1UGNMjtGt2kI6Cm by lufthans@mastodon.social
       2024-09-09T08:58:20Z
       
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       @futurebird As I understand it,  pardons are executive orders and therefore required by law to be publishedexcept John Roberts says that laws don't apply to the person required to do the publishing ...