Post AllNGbf0ECclMRashk by daringfireball@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AllNGa1yHpoCJ6KCEC by daringfireball@mastodon.social
       2024-09-06T16:02:02Z
       
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       ★ The iOS Continental Drift Widenshttps://daringfireball.net/2024/09/the_ios_continental_drift_widens
       
 (DIR) Post #AllNGaqJGg4gpDsOgq by wezm@mastodon.decentralised.social
       2024-09-06T22:25:13Z
       
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       @daringfireball "I mean why stop here? Why not mandate that users be allowed to delete the entire OS?" Yes, exactly. They should mandate this!Old devices that work fine, especially iPads that Apple stops supporting become e-waste where it should be possible to replace iOS with Android or Linux. I recently bought a Pixel phone. First thing I did was replace the OS with GrapheneOS. This should absolutely be possible on iOS devices too.
       
 (DIR) Post #AllNGbXChCNyyFweY4 by gruber@mastodon.social
       2024-09-07T00:14:22Z
       
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       @wezm It's a cool idea and as a nerd I endorse it, but you think this should be legally mandated for all devices?
       
 (DIR) Post #AllNGbf0ECclMRashk by daringfireball@mastodon.social
       2024-09-07T00:11:14Z
       
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       [Rewrote this paragraph with my, uh, "guess" as to what will happen to incoming SMS messages after a user deletes the Messages app.]
       
 (DIR) Post #AllNGcIhqaNpLaAaae by antranigv@sigin.fo
       2024-09-07T00:22:37Z
       
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       @gruber @wezm it might even end up been more useful. I mean both Android and iOS are toy operating systems. I would love to have Linux or NetBSD on my *looking around* 10+ outdated iOS devices in the house. We do that with MacBooks anyway.
       
 (DIR) Post #AllNGd257sgBcJOpJg by gruber@mastodon.social
       2024-09-07T14:31:13Z
       
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       @antranigv @wezm It’s easy to see why Apple doesn’t make that possible. But neither do any major Android handset makers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AllNGdYLBwU3EMUabA by antranigv@sigin.fo
       2024-09-07T14:34:56Z
       
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       @gruber @wezm unfortunately true. But if makers allow it, then amazing things happen. I’ve been daily driving my Nokia N900 for couple of weeks now. It’s a phone from 2009 and runs latest version of all modern software.
       
 (DIR) Post #AllNGe2pMas0kukw7M by feld@friedcheese.us
       2024-09-07T14:42:04.236570Z
       
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       @antranigv @gruber @wezm Well it's still limited to 3G and wouldn't be able to do RCS and other new things. Does it even have a modern browser? Saying it can run "the latest version of app modern software" is a bit of a stretch if we're only talking about kernel, glibc, and some other tools and libraries. It would have a modern TLS stack so that's good.Is the mail client getting patches? (And what is the client software?)