Post AlZoeRL0clvDA6JPUG by Beefki@noauthority.social
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(DIR) Post #AlX8tKK2PELRM8M0Zs by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T17:56:29Z
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The Dutch perhaps spend more on video games yet we have a LOT less gun violence 🇺🇸 I wonder why... 🔫 ❌ 🇳🇱
(DIR) Post #AlX8xpwInPjIZbP0SG by WillyECoyote69@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T17:57:22Z
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@stux Hm, I wonder ...
(DIR) Post #AlX9E8wxslyiAQUJLk by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T18:00:15Z
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Gun violence exicsts NOT because we play violent video games or watch violent moviesIt's because the incredicibly stupid laws the politicians keep in placeYou can think whatever you want but at the end of day the facts are clearI don't care about "your rights to bear arms", it's 2024 not 1800
(DIR) Post #AlX9G5IkQ2hjQjbOxk by ClickyMcTicker@hachyderm.io
2024-08-31T18:00:40Z
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@stux Spending too much time inside playing video games instead of going outside to play with guns 🤪
(DIR) Post #AlX9Ndo8WXtETbt4rY by carstenfranke@mastodon.social
2024-08-31T18:02:01Z
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@stux in the US we still live in the 1780s...
(DIR) Post #AlX9OoGf7RUNCvmsK0 by freemo@qoto.org
2024-08-31T18:01:19Z
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@stux Thats like saying "The dutch banned vaccines, therefore we have a lot fewer vaccine deaths, I wonder why"I mean of course you do, that doesnt make it a win anymore than eliminating vaccines would be a win.
(DIR) Post #AlX9Op5i3eK1lFfdtA by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T18:02:06Z
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@freemo What...Yes, bananas are wheels for computers! I see
(DIR) Post #AlX9Zp6KMS34yfClXM by RandomDamage@infosec.exchange
2024-08-31T18:04:11Z
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@stux this discussion keeps happening, and by far the largest correlating factor for gun violence is whether the country in question is involved in a war (not necessarily on their own soil)The US was on a good track in the '90's even before the federal assault rifle legislation went into place, and the trend reversed when we responded to 9/11 by invading everywhere
(DIR) Post #AlX9hB0lIWXmxS6lAe by freemo@qoto.org
2024-08-31T18:05:26Z
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@stux Not sure how you are confused.. when you make something illegal that is used to save your life when someone is trying to kill you with a knife, it isnt a win that you eliminated gun deaths and replaced them with being killed by other means.Much as when making vaccines illegal you effectively will eliminate all deaths via vaccine, but now replace those deaths with even more deaths from the virus itself.Same thing, not sure why that concept would confuse you.inb4 be sure if you use numbers you compare netherlands to itself both before and after a change. Any other comparison would be dishonest due to confounding.
(DIR) Post #AlX9m5UjEh97IQSz5M by diego@lounge.collabfc.com
2024-08-31T18:05:22.545563Z
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In 1940 the Dutch Government passed the “Declaration of Aryan Descent” law.
(DIR) Post #AlX9m6EoTM0dbM1muu by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T18:06:24Z
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@diego What has this too do with the dumb gun laws in the USDon't focus the attention somewhere else :cat_hug_triangle:
(DIR) Post #AlX9qw4vfkMFXZi8A4 by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T18:07:18Z
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@freemo Sorry but you don't get it.. like at all so im gonna stop wasting my time sorry ❤️ It's okay
(DIR) Post #AlX9t0T8Jtm3ji1Geu by FallsMom@mastodon.coffee
2024-08-31T18:07:39Z
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@stux
(DIR) Post #AlX9ytguQsfcS8GvJ2 by freemo@qoto.org
2024-08-31T18:08:44Z
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@stux It seems to be you who doesnt get it, but your always welcome to disengage.
(DIR) Post #AlXA5iC1a4Iwoq4jOS by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T18:09:53Z
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@freemo Okay! :blobcathighfive: Your in the country with endless gun deaths but im the one who doesn't get it 😉 Thats what i mean haha
(DIR) Post #AlXADch9uCMI5IPVx2 by freemo@qoto.org
2024-08-31T18:11:24Z
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@stux I am also in the country that when the Israli mob was trying to murder me I was allowed to arm myself and ensure I stayed alive... I am in the country that didnt insist I let someone kill me just because it cares more about replacing one gun death with 10 knife deaths and calling that a win.
(DIR) Post #AlXAQO0foey0Isclge by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T18:13:40Z
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@FallsMom oof... :sad_cat:
(DIR) Post #AlXAcLRZBPlforuCyu by drahardja@sfba.social
2024-08-31T18:15:54Z
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@stux I agree with you, but in the US it’s that gun owners here as a collective have decided that dead mall shoppers, dead schoolchildren, and huge numbers of self-inflicted gun deaths are an *acceptable cost* of being able to own guns.It’s not about “the right to bear arms”—that’s just rationalization. It’s about being so utterly selfish that one’s ability to play with guns is far more important than other people dying because of my hobby.
(DIR) Post #AlXAm8BxJ8wvcEGoQC by tragicomedy@mstdn.party
2024-08-31T18:17:37Z
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@stux I hate the "violent games cause violence" discourse, coz it ridiculed the actual phenomenon. Yes, violent movies and games do cause violence, but it doesn't work the same way as "I played GTA5 and now I want to kill people". It similar process to indoctrination.
(DIR) Post #AlXAoPpsg9fKut2BjE by freemo@qoto.org
2024-08-31T18:14:12Z
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@stux The people who praise replacing one gun death with 10 knife deaths by making guns illegal are the same people who never stood up to people doing evil who were capable and willing to kill you.When you are the one people are trying to kill your opinion on guns changes real quick. I certainly never bothered owning a gun before then. Now I open-carry with a license.
(DIR) Post #AlXAtVrZhGmZ3eG0Ey by threalist@social.fbxl.net
2024-08-31T18:19:04.697049Z
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OK, ..but what if it makes me FEAL better to support gun bans?
(DIR) Post #AlXB6UU08jF6XeQ2l6 by FallsMom@mastodon.coffee
2024-08-31T18:21:21Z
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@stux Many people witnessed this, and certainly they are harmed/traumatized by seeing such violence.
(DIR) Post #AlXEf6Mq5mk3kMGSZs by diego@lounge.collabfc.com
2024-08-31T18:58:51.623270Z
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Your legislation on murder is so pathetically weak we have to incarcerate your murders...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-61188020
(DIR) Post #AlXEf79l9tsEC59WpU by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T19:01:09Z
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@diego @freemo You can keep coming up with all the excuses in the world but it still won't change a single thing about the fact from my first post 😉 All you can do is drive attention away from the real issue, it's nothing new
(DIR) Post #AlXFz8bDbUFwPm6l6W by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T19:15:57Z
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@freemo @diego I think Diego misread my first post dismissing that whole thing :blobcatgiggle:
(DIR) Post #AlXGDFLtIGuBPcfNC4 by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T19:18:28Z
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@freemo Correct@diego
(DIR) Post #AlXGrjbyD3AIqLUejQ by freemo@qoto.org
2024-08-31T19:25:53Z
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@stux I never claimed your post is factuallymincorrext. Just like it is factually correct making vaccines illegal will eliminate vaccine deaths.Being factually correct isnt the same as interpriting the facts correcrly.Foe the recors in my 40 years living in one of the biggest cities I have never once seen anyone threatened with a gun nor ha e i ever known a single person who has.. in fact tbe only time i was near to a mass shooting at all and witnessed gun violence was in the Netherlands.@diego
(DIR) Post #AlXH2VnPunEfBHzEJc by notmybackdoorbug@mastodon.social
2024-08-31T19:27:49Z
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@stux gun violence exist because of people. Not guns.
(DIR) Post #AlXJh7oiAoUuan5NHU by diego@lounge.collabfc.com
2024-08-31T19:54:27.855332Z
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I think your BS just encountered someone who developed who has "domain knowledge".
(DIR) Post #AlXJh8kqgf0BV6Hnto by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T19:57:35Z
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@diego Hahaha go fishing! :nkoWave: @freemo
(DIR) Post #AlXJvNud7yUOZ8eaEi by diego@lounge.collabfc.com
2024-08-31T19:57:45.805308Z
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"Gun violence exicsts NOT because we play violent video games or watch violent movies"
(DIR) Post #AlXJvOkO1XtD9eruuO by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T20:00:03Z
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@diego So it is not the fault of video games nor movies, it's the stupid laws
(DIR) Post #AlXO5nWVA5BGi0aY2S by paulc@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T20:46:28Z
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@stux In 1800 the right to bear arms was very restricted. Guns were considered very unreliable and not valid means of self defense.If you were in a militia you were not allowed to use the guns your purchased for militia use for personal use, and were often stored in the militia bunker.
(DIR) Post #AlXbPnZNzslK35nyXg by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-08-31T23:16:10.878877Z
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@stux @freemo @stux @freemo I think these countries need to change their gun laws!https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
(DIR) Post #AlXeYwbs3UlQYT1Ig4 by freemo@qoto.org
2024-08-31T19:29:27Z
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@shuro Indeed they do. With virtually every country if you compare their violent crime and homicide rates both before and after a gun ban the rates sky rocket for many years after and never return to normal.So yes there are more people dying as a result of their gun laws and that can be seen across most nations that have had gun bans and inferred to be the same effect in the netherlands.Most of the data for this i have is for other countroes like england, ireland, jamaica, but sadly limited data on the netherlands on hand.@stux
(DIR) Post #AlXeet4e7ARNKHJTcW by dcc@annihilation.social
2024-08-31T23:52:35.188414Z
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@realcaseyrollins @stux @freemo >guns are banned in Venezuela:nixon_smug:
(DIR) Post #AlXfTEfm5JaEnDghIO by Diceyocean@annihilation.social
2024-09-01T00:01:40.610670Z
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@dcc @realcaseyrollins @freemo @stux I wonder what drives someone to sperg about gun policy in US. If the person doesn't live there why should he care about domestic policy of a people that isn't his own. Just the same as caring about gun policy in Somalia if you think about it. Foreign policy is another issue. But internal policy in US should be entertainment
(DIR) Post #AlXfiLnHtHLHDrPQau by freemo@qoto.org
2024-09-01T00:01:51Z
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@dcc @stux @realcaseyrollins Its almost like "Cum hoc ergo propter hoc" is a logical fallacy or something... Who wulda thunk, not this scientist.
(DIR) Post #AlXg3sVNSzFWkuITWS by dj@parcero.bond
2024-09-01T00:08:17.097542Z
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@dcc @stux @freemo @realcaseyrollins
(DIR) Post #AlXhwYOm1WHcHGqLYm by Diceyocean@annihilation.social
2024-09-01T00:29:23.170206Z
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@dcc @freemo @realcaseyrollins @stux I mean the Americans fought to liberate themselves from the British. Besides some people on here I don’t think Americans think in the line of becoming one people with Europeans as a joint European/American nation
(DIR) Post #AlYwGzTOfCfAYWbYvI by freemo@qoto.org
2024-08-31T18:27:35Z
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@threalist At least youd be honest with yourself.@stux
(DIR) Post #AlYyPxGKS6eODJtX6m by nicholas@aklp.club
2024-09-01T15:08:41.341714Z
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Sounds traumatic, sorry you felt in danger, but I'm glad you took steps to responsibly protect yourself and your loved ones.
(DIR) Post #AlZN971RPTLyPlzqz2 by freemo@qoto.org
2024-09-01T18:13:33Z
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@nicholas Thank you. It was the threat on my family that was the hardest.@stux
(DIR) Post #AlZoeRL0clvDA6JPUG by Beefki@noauthority.social
2024-09-02T00:53:58Z
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@freemoNevermind that removing the guns always has an authoritarian regime that follows.It's amazing how much violence your own government is willing to perform against its population when they know the people cannot realistically fight back.Look at the UK.@stux @threalist
(DIR) Post #AlZslJ0qNL3zBYPQvI by Charlie_Doh@mastodon.social
2024-09-02T01:39:58Z
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@stux if you want a culture that clamors for rational gun control, I'm afraid we must also have an ethic that frowns on the romanticized gun play in our entertainments.