Post AlUfer7ctAgzkhNO0e by purple@nya.social
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(DIR) Post #AlUWioKgIpN8fiIGkC by icedquinn@blob.cat
2024-08-30T11:39:27.593880Z
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who remembers bzip files :agummyhydraulicpress:
(DIR) Post #AlUWmU61U17X4HBmYC by hj@shigusegubu.club
2024-08-30T11:40:08.903975Z
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@icedquinn recently had to extract .tar.bz2 and had to look up what flag is used for it instead of -z (it's -j)
(DIR) Post #AlUYRSDtS4g35NyD8i by m0xee@social.librem.one
2024-08-30T11:58:45Z
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@hj @icedquinnI use bzip2 a lot — it takes me more time to recall whether xz is uppercase J or is it Z 😂XZ offers superior compression, but it's also significantly more resource-hungry — this isn't what I'd use on an old ARM machine with half a gig of RAM.
(DIR) Post #AlUfeozOomvJ8bVmuO by mia@movsw.0x0.st
2024-08-30T11:50:40.652Z
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@icedquinn interestingly i think debian never supported bzip2it just went gzip → sleepy_graybeard.jpg → xz → zstd (the latter two only due to ubuntu)
(DIR) Post #AlUfepfEJGNrEL5C6q by purple@nya.social
2024-08-30T11:54:55.065Z
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@mia@movsw.0x0.st @icedquinn@blob.cat i assure you it supports bzip
(DIR) Post #AlUfeqUHFTDVmexxg0 by mia@movsw.0x0.st
2024-08-30T12:03:42.320Z
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@purple @icedquinn .deb does? hm must have misremembered :tehepero:
(DIR) Post #AlUfer7ctAgzkhNO0e by purple@nya.social
2024-08-30T13:05:56.808Z
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@mia@movsw.0x0.st @icedquinn@blob.cat .deb is cpio
(DIR) Post #AlUfernoMKR7rX74lM by mia@movsw.0x0.st
2024-08-30T13:18:26.090Z
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@purple @icedquinn so is .rpm; doesn't mean the tools necessarily support any compression method
(DIR) Post #AlUhwXCHuJij4r78ng by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
2024-08-30T13:44:39.592360Z
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@m0xee @hj @icedquinn Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor
(DIR) Post #AlUhynOAg6PZsFkblA by purple@nya.social
2024-08-30T13:33:29.559Z
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@mia@movsw.0x0.st @icedquinn@blob.cat my bad, that was an unfinished thought. from the current dpkg-deb manpage, the utility that glues a package together:```-Zcompress-type Specify which compression type to use when building a package. Allowed values are gzip, xz (since dpkg 1.15.6), zstd (since dpkg 1.19.0.5ubuntu2) and none (default is zstd).``` they are cpio archives with any of the above compression, and the archive itself can ofc contain whatever pre-compressed files you desire.in the Pentium II days, debian did skip over bzip2 for packages and it was due to the extreme memory requirements it demanded when the decision was made. anyone with less than ~64MB of RAM wouldn't have been able to install it, which would have excluded a huge chunk of hobbyists at the time.by the time they got around to considering adding bzip2, xz had come along and was better in every way.off topic, but, i'd like to see them add parallel decompression in dpkg-deb 👉👈
(DIR) Post #AlUhyo06P4kjltUtsm by mia@movsw.0x0.st
2024-08-30T13:39:36.597Z
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@purple @icedquinn i'd much rather they finally switched to a SAT solver like everyone else, and... oh i'll spare you the 5000 word rant
(DIR) Post #AlUiR9Ej2hQdk2qt6m by purple@nya.social
2024-08-30T13:42:15.569Z
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@mia@movsw.0x0.st @icedquinn@blob.cat i routinely run in to the problem a package manager trying to restart a service that 1: doesn't need to be restarted and 2: refuses to come back up cleanly because the other packages it depends on hasn't been updated yet.find me a package manager that solve that and i'll switch immediately. hell, i'll join the dev team.
(DIR) Post #AlUjltAs3YV9xeVFK4 by mia@movsw.0x0.st
2024-08-30T13:44:24.969Z
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@purple @icedquinn zypper
(DIR) Post #AlUjluNJam39gXKhMG by icedquinn@blob.cat
2024-08-30T14:05:41.740092Z
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@mia @purple i would probably not update in place, but do a/b booting. shitposted a few times about "nixpkg but rebol"
(DIR) Post #AlUjxNiqosjxtDsR8a by purple@nya.social
2024-08-30T13:50:16.035Z
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@mia@movsw.0x0.st @icedquinn@blob.cat mmmmm i made the mistake of using the source. they've come full circle. it's now tar archives.https://salsa.debian.org/dpkg-team/dpkg/-/blob/main/src/deb/build.c?ref_type=heads#L46890% sure you could pass it bzip2 and it wouldn't even bitch, just be undocumented lol
(DIR) Post #AlUkBo07ufl5RgprBQ by mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website
2024-08-30T14:10:24.604931Z
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@icedquinn @mia @purple nixpkgs but its not randomly broken
(DIR) Post #B2rcmr4ckDBVo32wvg by roytam1@miniwa.moe
2026-02-01T02:50:51.510710Z
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@icedquinn do you really mean bzip files, not bzip2 files?(bzip without 2 really exists.)
(DIR) Post #B2ryGdFYnpa8erCaZ6 by wzqtparor@fedibird.com
2026-02-01T06:52:09Z
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Last time I deal with a bzip2 file was 2017.@roytam1 @icedquinn