Post AlSLvLKbx4vegA794y by skolima@hachyderm.io
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 (DIR) Post #AlSKVoPF890PMxXiLI by collectifission@greennuclear.online
       2024-08-29T09:00:50Z
       
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       "Thus, Rosatom is a geopolitical tool of Putin that also needs to be fully weakened, like Gazprom. This is necessary to reduce Moscow’s ability to exert political pressure on European governments and to block additional opportunities to circumvent sanctions for importing Western dual-use goods into Russia, which are used not only in the construction of nuclear power plants but also in the production of military equipment and weapons."The article comes so far only to stop at this point. HOW should the West do that?The answer ought to be obvious: emulate Rosatom in creating 'our own' vertically integrated everything-related-to-nuclear company.Of course, this will never happen. France's EDF has the best papers for it, being a state-backed company, but it stands very weak to be a real contender. The answer of the West will thus be haphazard and incomplete at best.#Geopolitics #Nuclear #EnergyTransitionhttps://informnapalm.org/en/does-putin-dream-of-nuclear-power-plants/
       
 (DIR) Post #AlSKVpNVW5DANrjqHA by Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
       2024-08-29T09:55:33Z
       
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       @collectifission I don't see how having a vertically integrated direct and complete competitor is necessary for sanctions against Rosatom.  Just sanction them.And of course, support »western« nuclear industries, mostly by removing purely political obstacles.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlSKVqJI3FQrH4lzLE by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
       2024-08-29T10:13:12Z
       
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       @Ardubal @collectifission What does sanctioning Rosatom achieve, when their target market is countries which aren't inclined to go along with your sanctions?The West has to out-compete Russia, and that means being able to offer "turnkey" plants with good financing terms. Forty years ago, most countries interested in buying nuclear power plants wanted technology transfer and local participation. A lot of potential buyer countries today, though, just seem to want the power.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlSLvLKbx4vegA794y by skolima@hachyderm.io
       2024-08-29T10:29:00Z
       
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       @publius @Ardubal @collectifission Though isn't the only "Western" nuclear turnkey solution currently being deployed in significant number from Korea? (Nothing bad with it per se, but would be better to have more players.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AlSRquBhWrcv3qDJb6 by Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
       2024-08-29T11:35:10Z
       
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       @publius @collectifission Sanctions work, even if they are not perfect.  They increase at least hassle and costs.  And you can put pressure on other countries too.  Non-perfection is no reason against them.I believe that tech transfer and local participation is important for sustainability and resilience, but of course, if a country only wants a turnkey black box, that market should be served too.  So, I agree with your out-compete point.