Post AlLKhslDPGjyF6r8ts by RTP@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AlJmDhXywTpvB58xdo by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-25T07:11:19Z
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BREAKING: Founder Of Telegram ARRESTED For Not "Moderating" - what they really mean is not creating backdoor for enacting censorshipTranslates into further war on encryption - I'll probably talk about it on a video coming up#censorship #telegram #PavelDurov #crypto #encryption #e2ee #socialMedia #backdoor #France #Paris #News #tech #freedom #freespeech #arstechnicahttps://arstechnica.com/security/2024/08/shocker-french-make-surprise-arrest-of-telegram-founder-at-paris-airport/
(DIR) Post #AlJmwKap8FDF1Aknj6 by pocketvj@fosstodon.org
2024-08-25T07:19:24Z
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@RTP wow
(DIR) Post #AlJnoGxSrWGlNl46HQ by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-25T07:29:09Z
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@pocketvj Another thought is this likely w/act to intimidate other platforms.And it appears "X" platform has blroken #telegram as a hashtag. Interesting.
(DIR) Post #AlJoHxsUMnBAtRtccS by Chre@pouet.chapril.org
2024-08-25T07:34:28Z
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@RTP In french from #TF1https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/info-tf1-lci-le-fondateur-et-pdg-de-la-messagerie-cryptee-telegram-interpelle-en-france-2316072.html
(DIR) Post #AlK68XGlj0gCwBuG0G by duxsco@digitalcourage.social
2024-08-25T10:54:29Z
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@RTP > Translates into further war on encryption [...]lol, #telegram doesn't support end-to-end encryption for group chats. It supports it for chats between two individuals, though, but only if they opt-in.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(software)#Securityhttps://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html
(DIR) Post #AlKIbSO89RO7e8uI52 by oatbiscuits@floss.social
2024-08-25T13:14:10Z
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@RTP he already has a backdoor into almost all the chats, as the vast majority of them are not encrypted, and the ones that are encrypted...they rolled their own crypto...
(DIR) Post #AlKLAtRnjmonc3eIgS by tragicomedy@mstdn.party
2024-08-25T13:42:59Z
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@RTP This is the reason why whenever I see "censorship" I start uncontrollably laughing. This word is void of any meaning now
(DIR) Post #AlKXxaOEa3Fi98xuwC by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-25T16:06:15Z
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@kat I have not. Was only on it a short period when working w/a FOSS project.Personally, I believe censorship has a more dangerous ultimate destination, than good.
(DIR) Post #AlKY64OmtMEdXBGmpM by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-25T16:07:47Z
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@duxsco Good to know.Not a user of the app.
(DIR) Post #AlKbY7giYWyPhqizke by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-25T16:46:27Z
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@kat It's not really my thing. I'm honestly not surprised seeing countless spam posts around the web saying "buy this" buy that on tgram. 😉
(DIR) Post #AlKvtbBS5KAKLlcOZ6 by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-25T20:34:27Z
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@kat Fair enough.Shared first / initial impressions / concerns, but could change view in future as I learn more details.It's not a platform I spend any time on (don't have it).
(DIR) Post #AlKy3AzQWnZ9ungjeS by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2024-08-25T20:57:20.724Z
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@RTP@fosstodon.org People are rushing in to nit-pick that telegram isn't a secure messager (it isn't) and that it's filled with spam/junk (it is) but there's an important truth to what you're saying.E2EE isn't an end to itself, it's a means to privacy outside state control. The EU (and many other governments) have made it explicitly clear they view any and all communications they can't monitor control or shut down are a problem.You don't have to like Telegram or durov to see this as a troubling sign within a broader pattern that is only hard to see when ones wishes not to see.
(DIR) Post #AlKy3c5jlRelyBqejg by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2024-08-25T20:58:40.944Z
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@RTP@fosstodon.org People are rushing in to nit-pick that telegram isn't a secure messager (it isn't) and that it's filled with spam/junk (it is) but there's an important truth to what you're saying.E2EE isn't an end to itself, it's a means to privacy outside third-party control. The EU (and many other governments) have made it explicitly clear they view any and all communications they can't monitor control or shut down are a problem.You don't have to like Telegram or durov to see this as a troubling sign within a broader pattern that is only hard to see when ones wishes not to see.
(DIR) Post #AlL0bj6kNsEfU6iNo8 by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2024-08-25T21:27:08.651931Z
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@gabriel @RTP It's both due to the unrest in the UK (which was being spread over TG) where certain demographics got a bit too uppity, and the fact that glowies kept failing to get Durov. He really, should have stayed in Dubai. https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-crypto-keepers-levine
(DIR) Post #AlL1zqJRLfjGjYiPKa by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2024-08-25T21:42:46.844Z
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@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co Interesting read (part way through it)This is a scathing and intriguing take: Now, four years after the Snowden leak, we can see that all that energy and outrage and potential for civic action has been redirected into a narrow band of mass-politics-by-app. The new consensus, bruited loudly in and around Silicon Valley, holds that all we need to do to protect ourselves from surveillance is download whatever crypto chat app is in vogue at the moment, and run it on our iPhones. Instead of finding political and democratic solutions to the government and corporate surveillance crisis plaguing our society, the privacy movement somehow ended up in a libertarian rut. This is a non-trivial problem. I would actually agree with the kernel of truth that technological solutions are absolutely part of the picture. But, I also wholeheartedly agree the idea that only technological solutions are required is undoubtedly it's own psyop at this point.@RTP@fosstodon.org
(DIR) Post #AlL5BQK26cwHSnCqyu by sun@shitposter.world
2024-08-25T22:18:33.097631Z
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@gabriel @RTP @PurpCat I think this isn't really because of Silicon Valley, it's because of two things: firstly, the relegation of Wikileaks and by extension Snowden and "privacy advocates" to "right wing useful idiots"; and the realization that the government is too powerful and trying to get it to stop spying on us illegally has proven literally impossible.
(DIR) Post #AlLKhslDPGjyF6r8ts by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-26T01:12:28Z
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@gabriel Yes, ppl love to nitpick.Mentioning it as encrypted messenger app - whether enabled by default or not, group or not... is part of the initial attraction for many. Even if most don't benefit from this. 😉 To target the founder, charging him with trafficking / terrorism related charges, is still in my eyes, partly an attack on encryption - at least on the surface level.Underneath, it's a precedent promoting nationstate platform intimidation, censorship.-free speech absolutist.
(DIR) Post #AlLdKi1T3tc7PO7cAK by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-26T04:41:10Z
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📰 Pavel Durov Arrest: What We Know, After Effect / Initial Thoughts, Platform Precedent Concern#Telegram #PavelDurov #FreeSpeech #censorship #News #tech #socialMedia #video #Peertube #infosec #encryption #FreeExpression #France #Paris #freedom #internet https://tube.tchncs.de/w/hnbXAgiTmYuBxuC4h2SGtS
(DIR) Post #AlM9ZLy8XJfTt3afpI by duxsco@digitalcourage.social
2024-08-26T10:42:22Z
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@RTP The problem with Telegram "groups" is that they can have up to 200.000 members. In my eyes, that's not a simple group anymore and goes in direction of social media. Whoever posts in such a large group can't expect their post to stay private, especially with Telegram group chat encryption not being possible. With the social media like nature of Telegram, it's no wonder that law enforcement tries to enforce moderation in order to combat fake news, hate speech and misinformation. In Germany, we have:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act
(DIR) Post #AlNBdmD7J4rJUynInY by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2024-08-26T22:40:13.130Z
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@RTP@fosstodon.org Update https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1828130491805192226
(DIR) Post #AlNBrL6ormWrUzJeF6 by tadano@mt.watamelon.win
2024-08-26T22:42:45.809237Z
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@PurpCat @gabriel @RTP Even then, the UAE has a bilateral extradition agreement with France. I don't know if the royal family would have sold him out but when you get multiple state actors breathing down your neck there's not much room to breathe yourself.
(DIR) Post #AlNJkfqs97fxRCBnzk by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2024-08-27T00:11:05.676890Z
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@tadano @RTP @gabriel his big mistake was to travel around the world, and getting a citizenship in France (lol, lmao).
(DIR) Post #AlNJuYa42DSrma2XOy by Nudhul@shitposter.world
2024-08-27T00:13:00.058340Z
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@PurpCat @RTP @gabriel @tadano >man of the worldwhat a faggot. good riddance tbh he can tor in the dungeon
(DIR) Post #AlNK0pFGzMyFCkIvVA by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2024-08-27T00:14:00.811542Z
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@Nudhul @RTP @gabriel @tadano If he had fucked off and stayed solely in Dubai or some shit he might be free still.
(DIR) Post #AlNKy56neXDfUOb2NE by tadano@mt.watamelon.win
2024-08-27T00:24:49.931824Z
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@PurpCat @gabriel @Nudhul @RTP Or he should have pulled a Lord Miles and made friends with the Taliban
(DIR) Post #AlNMOEzLdt3nc99Gd6 by Spingebill@poa.st
2024-08-27T00:40:46.356766Z
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@PurpCat @tadano @RTP @gabriel >Durov needs to understand that the Fatherland, like the times, is not chosenbro wrote a snappy one-liner that the most seasoned Marvel writer couldn't even dream of coming up with
(DIR) Post #AlNMaNk8uzJiF2pFyK by leespringfield1903@poa.st
2024-08-27T00:42:58.417558Z
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@Spingebill @PurpCat @tadano @RTP @gabriel Liberaskas BTFO again.
(DIR) Post #AlNPG05RSjQ6wXlFj6 by leespringfield1903@poa.st
2024-08-27T01:12:54.278061Z
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@Spingebill @PurpCat @tadano @RTP @gabriel In all seriousness. Did the retard believe he could have it both ways. Be in charge of an app that pisses off ZOG and be a man of the world at the same time.
(DIR) Post #AlNPIz7HWhocnp2pmK by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2024-08-27T01:13:19.913477Z
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@leespringfield1903 @RTP @gabriel @tadano @Spingebill being a techbro is one hell of a drug
(DIR) Post #AlNQ0CYBSI9Kv3Ee9I by Spingebill@poa.st
2024-08-27T01:21:15.214265Z
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@PurpCat @leespringfield1903 @RTP @gabriel @tadano just think, we could have Telegram with Full Generative AI Integration if he were free
(DIR) Post #AlNQWoS44ggxjbvJKq by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2024-08-27T01:27:02.710316Z
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@Spingebill @RTP @gabriel @tadano @leespringfield1903 instead we get amazon scamshttps://youtu.be/DeUNC7z5MM0
(DIR) Post #AlNVnWMR5XwyJx4pnc by charliebrownau@poa.st
2024-08-27T02:26:11.482218Z
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@PurpCat @RTP @gabriel @tadano Someone that rich doesnt have his own planeand use a private airportand private security
(DIR) Post #AlNVqtxtmj6KOfDCi0 by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2024-08-27T02:26:40.959440Z
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@charliebrownau @RTP @gabriel @tadano he had a private plane but he was on the manifest
(DIR) Post #AlNg6xiWbMz6CzJlpo by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-27T04:21:44Z
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@gabriel To add for balance, w/I have not personally looked into this (but I do like THC "the hacker's choice"), there are claims made about snooper API: https://blog.thc.org/keep-pavel-durov-locked-up
(DIR) Post #AlNyplv36yJjp8h0IS by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-08-27T07:51:31Z
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@duxsco Definitely can see it from this side as well. And the charges, given the lack of e2ee for the most part (outside users familiar enough to enable it), make more sense.Though not a user of TG, I do think the entire marketing is highly misleading. And that misleading part, encourages ppl to "openly share their secrets", unknowingly giving those up to server.With consequences for platform as we now see.
(DIR) Post #Am2uifPOUAoZGjbF9k by RTP@fosstodon.org
2024-09-16T01:48:34Z
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💬 Telegram End-To-End Encryption Rumor & Chatcontrol -- Did It Motivate Arrest?#tech #telegram #encryption #e2ee #PavelDurov #chatcontrol #EU #France #freeSpeech #censorship #infosec #cybersecurity #HumanRights #SocialMedia Watch #Anonymously On #I2P http://righttoprivacy.i2p/reports-telegram-removes-end-to-end-encryption-true-false-chatcontrol/Watch On #Peertubehttps://tube.tchncs.de/w/oqQtQTxDB7kFHrgL2KVRDA