Post AlEXfTJMzf8G23IEcq by PJ_Evans@mas.to
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(DIR) Post #AlET3nYsr7Ni14KWlU by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-22T17:43:01Z
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You know it's bad, but did you know there is a plan to get rid of NOAA and the National Weather Service in there? Yes, the people who tell you if there will be tornados or hurricanes. They want to privatize it. So you'll need to pay a weather subscription or something or just get... swept out to sea. They hate NOAA because NOAA data makes climate change too ... salient and the "alarmism" is bad for the market. I guess they didn't think Katrina killed enough people?
(DIR) Post #AlETZv3YWfvwWkzdUe by miah@hachyderm.io
2024-08-22T17:48:48Z
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@futurebird Natural Disasters are highly profitable for them. People rush to stockpile goods before disaster. People have to rebuild homes after disaster. Lots with homes become vacant and cheap after disaster.And that's without even thinking about medical costs and such. I think its all profit motives.When I lived in Ft. Lauderdale and Houston every Hurricane season it was the same 'rush' of spending before and after the hurricane.
(DIR) Post #AlETbmlqIqgpPPb7zM by RogerBW@emacs.ch
2024-08-22T17:48:54Z
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@futurebird Katrina made the guys who came in with the relief supplies look good. But mostly I think this is the usual fossil fuel funding of climate denial.
(DIR) Post #AlETpK6lfMwmZGqBaS by thedansimonson@lingo.lol
2024-08-22T17:51:36Z
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@futurebird every “commercial forecaster” is just a glossy repackaging of NOAA forecasts. Weather Channel, Accuweather, all of it. It’s too expensive to collect that kind of data commercially. Accuweather has been lobbying to get weather.gov shutdown for years because the dumb chud who runs that place thinks it’s cutting into his profit margins—but he still relies on that NOAA forecast to do anything.
(DIR) Post #AlETqq7O8hIS8Pr0bY by log@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-08-22T17:51:22Z
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@futurebird It feels a lot like petty payback for making Trump use a marker to add his bullshit to a prediction plot
(DIR) Post #AlEU5EyOWfhvH7Vw48 by gepandz@mastodon.social
2024-08-22T17:54:24Z
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@futurebird Yes, all of the above, plus companies like Weather [.] com and others want to sell you the same data that NOAA and the NWS provide to the public for free.They've trialed "enhanced" tornado warnings sent only to those who pay up, not everyone in the area who could die in the storm. It's not so much that they want more people to die as much as they simply don't care if people who don't pay them die. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #AlEURPycINszlzC1oG by miah@hachyderm.io
2024-08-22T17:49:17Z
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@futurebird There is probably a bunch of human factor in there too where the 'displacement' or 'loss of life' is something they are interested in for various reasons. Its all gross.
(DIR) Post #AlEURQVaJoG1QEcMCG by JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange
2024-08-22T17:55:01Z
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Though wealthy people and companies rely on those forecasts and have lots of resources on and near the ocean. All those offshore rigs, harbors, shipping lanes, beach houses, etc. rely on accurate weather forecasting. Every day a rig is shut in because they had to evacuate is BIG money loss. If the hurricane tracks are less accurate, then they have to shut in ALL the platforms, not just the ones near the cone.@miah@futurebird
(DIR) Post #AlEURRDXgNQ3cZBSiG by JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange
2024-08-22T17:57:42Z
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IIRC, even during the cold war and embargos and such with Cuba, we still collaborated on hurricane tracking because it was just that important to have as many people as possible contributing data for forecasting. There's no way for a private company to duplicate all the effort that goes into it.@miah@futurebird
(DIR) Post #AlEXDJ1be3Tq1LYOX2 by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2024-08-22T18:27:15Z
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@thedansimonson @futurebird Trump wanted to make Barry Myers, CEO of Accuweather, head of NOAA.This is them trying to sell off public goods for private profits.
(DIR) Post #AlEXfTJMzf8G23IEcq by PJ_Evans@mas.to
2024-08-22T18:34:37Z
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@futurebird They think we should use Accuweather...which gets its data from NOAA.These are not smart people.
(DIR) Post #AlEbV5XEwDivDD5KYi by SpeakerToManagers@wandering.shop
2024-08-22T19:17:34Z
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@futurebird They think Katrina didn’t kill enough of the “right” people.
(DIR) Post #AlFLaEmkZMOvExjVqa by aborigen@sizeriot.com
2024-08-23T03:53:51Z
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@futurebird Who is this group with this plan?
(DIR) Post #AlG9Ody66p8ZZqhpGC by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-23T13:12:04Z
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@RenewedRebecca @JessTheUnstill Markets are most efficient when consumers can be flexible many sellers exist and there is room for innovation and service to be rewarded. If a market is monopolized or if the buyers have little choice in making the purchase (health care, housing, food) all the magic of the market vanishes. Basically markets work really well for luxury goods and wealthy consumers.
(DIR) Post #AlGAfOsFaAqxdkWbZo by guyjantic@c.im
2024-08-23T13:26:19Z
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@futurebird @RenewedRebecca @JessTheUnstill I still (not an economist) believe they can work pretty well if you have a functioning government that engages in regular, serious regulation of business, especially aggressive antitrust and other FTC-relevant stuff. We haven't had that since probably the Carter administration.
(DIR) Post #AlGB4B6Xuix8At1i6q by Illuminatus@mstdn.social
2024-08-23T13:30:47Z
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@futurebird @RenewedRebecca @JessTheUnstill Essentially, the markets work really well in ideal conditions that require continuous public oversight- The rest are ancap masturbatory fantasies.