Post AlDHRf22pLj3u6ccfA by GD5426@bae.st
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 (DIR) Post #AlCbvZICXCggiSl1e4 by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2024-08-21T20:13:02Z
       
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       There is a very simple way to have "walkable-cities" without any central planning or any of that 15-minute, smart-city crap. Just allow residential and commercial zones to mix. Allow people with big enough houses to run shops in them.I know a lot of local stores and restaurants that were renovated from former houses. Just remove the walls between the kitchen and living room, and have the bedrooms be employee offices then you will have enough space to run a store.You can take that one step further. Why not have a house with a store attached? A garage can be converted into a small shop or you can have the other side of a duplex be a store. Japan has tons of houses with stores attached. There are even apartment building with something like a 7/11 at the bottom.See? A simple solution that doesn't involve demolishing entire towns and rebuilding them or building expensive railways that would require evicting a bunch of people and destroying their homes just to make room. Car-dependent cities are a result of central planning, not the other way around.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlCiQ8onc9xpJGxz8K by santiagolmtz@gleasonator.com
       2024-08-21T21:25:07.390078Z
       
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       @xianc78 Pretty much everywhere except the USA does this
       
 (DIR) Post #AlCiQ9s1he8iZZU4no by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2024-08-21T21:25:47Z
       
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       @santiagolmtz European and Asian cities were developed before zoning laws were a thing so it makes sense.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlCj49VmSLux2k9KRE by beardalaxy@gameliberty.club
       2024-08-21T21:33:00Z
       
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       @xianc78 they have started doing this sort of thing downtown where I live actually. They're pretty expensive, but yeah it's like housing on top of stores. Works pretty well.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlCqSxST6hNqZxNLZQ by souldessin@noauthority.social
       2024-08-21T22:55:56Z
       
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       @xianc78 I think the real holdout for something like this happening is HOAs. People treat property values as stock. It has to always be going up. Everyone looks straight ahead at the house in front of them without looking down the street to see the value of everything else. That's why any type of yard sign is so unimaginable to these people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlCrzm78PAW8uFbp1k by skylar@misskey.yandere.love
       2024-08-21T23:13:01.620783Z
       
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       @xianc78 zoning laws are good, actuallythey didn't just spring up out of nowhere due to some grand conspiracy from big zoning, but because a bunch of people running businesses out of their homes kept doing shit that irritated their neighbors, like making a shitload of noise and having customers parking all over the street
       
 (DIR) Post #AlCycrIjeWj60q3T5k by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.world
       2024-08-22T00:27:23.098840Z
       
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       @xianc78 @santiagolmtz This pattern was also fairly common in the Boston area in the 1980s, presumably because zoning wasn't a thing or wasn't strict when lots of older housing and shops next door or built in below were built.  Also see some of it generally in older towns and cities in the middle of the country, is also a thing when doing "Main Stree" renovations and the like.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlDBa0zgSROmbq7NoW by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2024-08-22T02:52:30Z
       
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       @beardalaxy Yeah, we have a "town square" for a while now and it has both stores and apartments.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlDHRf22pLj3u6ccfA by GD5426@bae.st
       2024-08-22T03:57:48.059362Z
       
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       @skylar @xianc78 it was moreso some rando couldn't just build a factory in a poor neighborhood and give people heavy metal poisoning iirc
       
 (DIR) Post #AlEMokFKIi8jfHcZA8 by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2024-08-22T16:33:09Z
       
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       @GD5426 @skylar That problem can easily be solved by enforcing the NAP. No zoning required.
       
 (DIR) Post #AlENAM7AhZozC26yUS by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2024-08-22T16:37:03Z
       
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       @GD5426 @skylar But in all seriousness, I was talking about mixing residential and commercial zones, not mixing residential and industrial zones.