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(DIR) Post #Al0StnmWSlJracVIrw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-15T23:35:15Z
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Does anyone *really* like "touch controls" on anything?When you see "touch controls" on earbuds, lights, appliances... are you like "heck yeah! no buttons!"I just think they are cheaper to make IPx4+ than other methods of control. But, they are always highlighted like it's a feature. (Why is IPV6 so similar to IPX6 making me confused them all the time?)
(DIR) Post #Al0TH4uYwQ9jNQMbEu by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-15T23:39:25Z
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@inherentlee I once had someone ask me "what's wrong" as I was putting on my hood. I was just trying not to accidentally pause my audio book. But it must have looked ... distressed.
(DIR) Post #Al0TLTNhu75QQa5iQi by mikef@messydesk.social
2024-08-15T23:40:12Z
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@futurebird I think its mostly just design fashion. Worst places I've seen besides cars: Espresso machines, washing machines, anywhere with moisture and steam.
(DIR) Post #Al0TaIUueTu713Wwka by EverydayMoggie@sfba.social
2024-08-15T23:42:54Z
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On some things I do like them. Kitchen appliances with no buttons or knobs that can collect grease or food splashes are the best!Also I have some LED lamps that you can turn on just by touching them, and I love those.@futurebird
(DIR) Post #Al0TdVLDM9O9ibWVlI by godofbiscuits@sfba.social
2024-08-15T23:43:29Z
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@futurebird I have to say the combo touch/click of the AppleTV remote (the aluminum one) is stunning. Anything that's doing relative work (lower/higher, louder/softer), as opposed to absolute -- where it's not to select or to specify — is great.
(DIR) Post #Al0TyTvfnizPQ8Zz4i by alda@topspicy.social
2024-08-15T23:46:59Z
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@futurebird I have scar tissue on running down my index finger so touch controls for smaller things are really annoying most of the time.
(DIR) Post #Al0TzuQYlbz3tPhtR2 by DamonWakes@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-08-15T23:47:16Z
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@futurebird My skin is frequently not conductive enough to make touch controls work in the first place so I thoroughly despise the things.
(DIR) Post #Al0UJreqm1Q15wuGwq by justafrog@mstdn.social
2024-08-15T23:51:09Z
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@futurebird Blind people are severely not fond of touch controls and yet they're on nearly everything.I find it frustrating if I have to stop all the things to look at a panel because tactile perception is out.I'd be ... slightly ... more frustrated if I couldn't see at all.
(DIR) Post #Al0V7UDcC6vssWpTBw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-15T23:59:59Z
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@rain There is heatproof tape used in electronics. Maybe tape a border around the areas?Anyway that sucks.
(DIR) Post #Al0Vc1gSKtn3M9sjSa by Extra_Special_Carbon@mastodon.world
2024-08-16T00:05:41Z
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@futurebird Part of the problem with touch controls is, I’m a creature of habit. I reach for the controls I instinctively know are there. I might love touch controls if I remembered I had them. That leads to the other problem with touch controls. There’s no standardization. On one device double tap might move to the next track, on another, it changes the volume.So even if I know I have touch controls, I have to spend some time figuring that out, or I just press the button.
(DIR) Post #Al0VsBOhzKxs7HHhuS by Frances_Larina@sfba.social
2024-08-16T00:08:34Z
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@futurebird Accountants and investors *love* them because they're cheaper to make. Who cares what users prefer, right?Although I have noticed that some car makers might have been listening and will NOT be following Tesla's lead and instead return to physical controls that can be felt while driving. It would be nice if other UI's did the same.
(DIR) Post #Al0dyjiY6ENDveCVeK by theantlady@arthropod.social
2024-08-16T01:39:17Z
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@futurebird This is an important question. Apparently it's now a 'feature' when cars have tactile buttons instead of touch controls. Because that's how terrible touch controls are.
(DIR) Post #Al0fC3YljnNnBfXdlQ by alcinnz@floss.social
2024-08-16T01:52:55Z
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@futurebird If the whole device doubles as a power button, like some lamps, I won't complain.But I really want the device to be tactile, at least a little bit! I find it too easy to fatfinger things otherwise...
(DIR) Post #Al0fHdj0hhA6nczhlQ by linebyline@bytetower.social
2024-08-16T01:54:01Z
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@futurebird I like smart phones and some DS games. Most everything else is fine-ish as long as it's (a) a supplement to actual physical button controls, not a replacement for them, and (b) unlikely to be activated accidentally. This is, unfortunately, not terribly common in my experience.
(DIR) Post #Al0fOiW5HsfVgfK544 by aunteef@mstdn.party
2024-08-16T01:55:16Z
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@futurebird One of the delights of having a 10-year-old car is that it still has buttons and knobs. I enjoy using dials to adjust the climate control and tune the fricking radio.
(DIR) Post #Al0fhUsKEI5UsigHKq by shawnhooper@fosstodon.org
2024-08-16T01:58:39Z
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@futurebird I can’t stand touch controls. I do some work in live audio. Using a mixer and a rack full of equipment with knobs, buttons and faders was so much nicer than touchscreen consoles. Now… a lot of the automation is better now. But it doesn’t feel right. Old school:
(DIR) Post #Al0g0saqGqJHwZkHxo by shawnhooper@fosstodon.org
2024-08-16T02:02:06Z
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@futurebird watching a touch screen for a lighting console mysteriously do things without being touched.
(DIR) Post #Al0ga7h67MbQuiTdZI by danep@mastodon.online
2024-08-16T02:08:32Z
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@futurebird It depends. In my car or on a remote or something like that? Absolutely not.The buttons on my stove, though? I actually like those being capacitive. So much easier to wipe down.Also prefer them on ear wireless earbuds. The ones I had with physical buttons, I felt like I was driving them down into my ear canals when I operated them.I think it really depends on the application and the thought and care that went into the design, and it's something that can be done well.
(DIR) Post #Al0isbaTuiJokNK5iq by Permacultureandpolitics@beekeeping.ninja
2024-08-16T02:34:14Z
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@futurebird If you have poor vision or damaged fingerprints, which isn’t that usual for manual labor workers, touch screens suck.
(DIR) Post #Al0jTIvOGRoDa1bPf6 by jqmcd@sfba.social
2024-08-16T02:40:55Z
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@futurebird a local gas station installed touch screens for the gas pumps, and they get so hot in the sun they’re hard to touch, but it doesn’t matter because the heat renders them inoperable anyway
(DIR) Post #Al0nDvQDlRlqA0wfzc by greensofshade@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T03:22:57Z
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@futurebird yes
(DIR) Post #Al0o8hgvUEei59pijI by ricosuave@mastodon.online
2024-08-16T03:33:13Z
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@futurebird Standard push button and rotary HVAC (and other critical systems) in vehicles are priceless. Don't have to look away from road to hunt and find a minute icon buried three levels deep in a menu, just to lower fan speed, etc.Think of pull-lever parking brake versus electo-button, or disappearance of key lock on passenger-side door. Gone. Because it's cheaper/easier for the manufacturer to produce.So so much foisted in the name of convenience is really only driven by cost-cutting.
(DIR) Post #Al0qNt4LfNalcc9lk8 by VampiresAndRobots@writing.exchange
2024-08-16T03:58:22Z
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@futurebird I just got my first set of wireless earbuds and since I have weird ears, I'm constantly pushing them back I to my ears. The problem is, pushing the left one pauses my video, and pushing the right changes the volume. These aren't even things I'd ever need my earbuds to do in the first place, but the lack of physical buttons makes it even more annoying.
(DIR) Post #Al0qgQW439TgZIxcxs by joannaholman@aus.social
2024-08-16T04:01:38Z
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@futurebird part of why I’m hesitant to part with my 20 year old car is there is absolutely no touch screen involved. Everything can be controlled with tactile buttons and knobs without taking my eyes off the road
(DIR) Post #Al0zQVRAsuRimk9mwS by KweVictoria@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T05:39:43Z
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@futurebird Lots of people with neuromuscular diseases and joint issues love touch controls, because physical buttons are often made way too difficult to press at all or cause pain in doing so. And yet, as evidenced by other comments here, other disabilities need physical buttons. This is why things should be designed with options and/or better designs that serve multiple needs!
(DIR) Post #Al148Bx15z74uK8ZGK by CalcProgrammer1@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T06:32:23Z
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@futurebird My car has all touch buttons, lots of them, plastered all down the center column under the touchscreen. It's all touch xcept the volume knob and it's super annoying. Want to turn up the fan? Run the risk of turning on the heated seats instead. Want to make the screen go to the climate menu? Nope, defrost is now on. Want to adjust anything without taking your eyes off the road? Hope you have a photographic memory and a steady hand.
(DIR) Post #Al1AYbiaW14G4rMqGm by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2024-08-16T07:44:24Z
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@futurebird They can be nice on things like kitchen appliances that need to be waterproof or would otherwise be difficult to clean. Of course, sensitivity and placement needs to be such that the risk of accidental activation is low.
(DIR) Post #Al1PCkVyczQSIjVJCq by llewelly@sauropods.win
2024-08-16T10:28:33Z
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@futurebird I want buttons I can feel, that need to be pressed to do something. Especially for headphones; most of my headphones listening, I have the lights off and my eyes closed. Also, having headphones change volume, turn on or off, etc, because my hair brushed something is horrid.
(DIR) Post #Al1QJgvyRHkzB2XQ6i by mike@sauropods.win
2024-08-16T10:41:00Z
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@futurebird Hate them. Always, always prefer tactile feedback.
(DIR) Post #Al1QvM24bD3HM8LlIG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-16T10:47:43Z
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@12 @rain What is this gadget you speak of? It sounds interesting, but I don't know what you mean.
(DIR) Post #Al1XUegbptm14PWhKi by lesswrongmorekind@masto.ai
2024-08-16T12:01:26Z
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@futurebird Pro - something like Apple's touch mouse, where you have constant contact and visiual feedback, this works well. And phones fit this too I suppose.Anti - pretty much everything else? Touch earbuds I've tried seem like they activated incorrectly as often as correctly, often with multiple attempts for intentional actions.
(DIR) Post #Al1YfoiYymY3K1KJ8K by Bit_form@corteximplant.com
2024-08-16T12:14:39Z
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@futurebird it depends on the object and function. I used to have a pair of headphones with capacitive touch controls on the side hardcovers, I liked the ease of the controls, but they didn't have a lock, so they would get activated from the insides of a hood during rain from the internal heat.
(DIR) Post #Al1ici9xu9AJehIkMK by kevin@dice.camp
2024-08-16T14:06:05Z
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@futurebird I have a TV with no touch controls, only a touch bar of sorts. It's horrible. There's no feedback so always feels like you're not pushing it.
(DIR) Post #Al68ldMgTZCqpb0P2m by rgbunny@urusai.social
2024-08-18T17:17:56Z
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@futurebird Tactile feedback is something I really value (and absolutely essential for visually impaired people), and touch controls do not have that. Give me buttons, switches, levers, dials... all the mechanical things!I disabled the touch control on my headphones because I have no need to use them (between buttons and my phone), and all it does is get in the way if I leave them enabled.