Post Akrb10aQItb6Xb9W2S by smithy@shitposter.world
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 (DIR) Post #AkrK3S9b57ohOjBVke by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
       2024-08-11T13:43:49.687Z
       
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       @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @sun@shitposter.world I mean I have read things by people like Ayn Rand or Rothbard. I completely disagree with them though. Also I love reading about history, well more so like 19th century to modern than medieval period and such tho.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrK7wU6FrOqcouoIy by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-08-11T13:44:38.275934Z
       
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       @dushman @arcana Rand is interesting because you hear a lot of people that say they admire her but they don't live what she said in her books at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrKAJQztlGMNlauNU by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
       2024-08-11T13:45:03.830Z
       
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       @sun@shitposter.world @arcana@fedi.layer02.net I hate everything she had to say basically lol.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrKBnD0gQjt11l2Lg by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
       2024-08-11T13:45:19.844Z
       
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       @sun@shitposter.world @arcana@fedi.layer02.net I have read her stuff though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrKFcTWX5lmssJ4Ua by naaksit@fedi.layer02.net
       2024-08-11T13:46:02.017233Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @dushman they say that about neitzche
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrKGm1KWrzymHfZXk by naaksit@fedi.layer02.net
       2024-08-11T13:46:14.794068Z
       
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       @sun @arcana @dushman a beter example would be jesus too
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrKQYEOeUWcuIRZ2m by smithy@shitposter.world
       2024-08-11T13:48:01.486202Z
       
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       @dushman @sun @arcana Rand is weird because she seems to equivocate between advocating for an Aristotelian model of self-interest (there are objective things that are in the self-interest of the human being given our essential nature, including the virtues) & run-of-the-mill subjective hedonism (do what you want / what feels good) — & she seems unaware of this difference.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrKbwXGd573TGhbTU by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-08-11T13:50:03.782869Z
       
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       @smithy @dushman @arcana Objectivism isn't great but I think her concept of enlightened self-interest is valuable. Also she is right that most of society's promotion of altruism is actually meant to transfer wealth and control to other people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrKrwamBdLgHPyPfU by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
       2024-08-11T13:52:57.230Z
       
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       @smithy@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world @arcana@fedi.layer02.net I mean I believe everyone is ultimately driven by self interest but not in the same framework. I'm a big fan of Stirner lol.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrKzOhq3fVhV6pZom by sun@shitposter.world
       2024-08-11T13:54:17.919237Z
       
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       @dushman @arcana @smithy Rand's self interest still didn't allow you to harm other people, this is something that both her proponents and opponents seem to understand. She had a well defined concept of self interest not just colloquial selfishness.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrRv6QellybKth2sC by nicholas@aklp.club
       2024-08-11T15:11:57.303693Z
       
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       they admire her but they don't live what she said in her booksShe fled the soviet revolution when her family was literally being hunted for being land-owning farmers, she became not only a preeminent novelist at a time when it was structurally difficult for women to do so generally, but she also became one of the world's most famous public intellectuals of her time. A true O.G. girlboss without any of the identitarianism. There's a lot to admire there.But objectivism is pretty wack-a-doodle​ tbh.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrSbY2YVAaP8Kexii by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2024-08-11T15:19:14.834447Z
       
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       I've only read The Fountainhead. The descriptions, settings and her use of words are really beautiful ... but the characters are all the same in the sense they're all psycho.I get what she was saying in the book, but using the architect analogy  just doesn't seem to work. Being unwavering in your vision doesn't really work for things like a building that requires buy-in from all the people investing in it, with their own needs and use cases.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrZVNdYxzsaoIyYUq by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
       2024-08-11T15:34:49.080683Z
       
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       Every time you read someone bitching about capitalism, unless they are indoctrinated revolutionaries, the bitching is really about human tendencies.Its the fundamental human tendency that rots every and all system, including "religion" or "charity". As the saying goes, we cannot design a civilization, the best we can hope for is to survive it.Painting with the wide brush of "capitalism is bad" is an attitude more dangerous that capitalism itself. The reason being that its certain you have nothing better to replace it with, so the opportunists and the criminals going to hijack your half-baked ideology.
       
 (DIR) Post #Akrb10aQItb6Xb9W2S by smithy@shitposter.world
       2024-08-11T16:53:53.392250Z
       
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       @sun @dushman @arcana I actually think this is where she failed - her notion of rational self-interest - doing things in accord w/one's nature that leads to human flourishing - is good & borrowed from philosophical predecessors, but I do think she waffles at times between that and a more base forms of egoism when expounding on it in her writings
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrcppOZltQYYUPKDo by nicholas@aklp.club
       2024-08-11T17:14:16.653827Z
       
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 (DIR) Post #Akrcu0z2d3UPeaSbWC by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
       2024-08-11T17:15:00.303549Z
       
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       Every time you read someone bitching about capitalism, unless they are indoctrinated revolutionaries, the bitching is really about human tendencies.truer words might not be spoken this day.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrdKqNg9oK4aZmGIq by eemmaa@soc0.outrnat.nl
       2024-08-11T17:19:51.229Z
       
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       @nicholas@aklp.club id suck her dick
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrdrLAvCUObMWJ1fc by nicholas@aklp.club
       2024-08-11T17:25:45.305964Z
       
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       'The people's dick' I think you mean, comrade.
       
 (DIR) Post #Akrm6tzCr5i9Itl1Ki by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
       2024-08-11T18:58:11.274Z
       
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       @eemmaa@soc0.outrnat.nl @nicholas@aklp.club Iphone Venezuela check mate gommie
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrnD0UNgtHpACoX5M by lina@uwu.social
       2024-08-11T18:53:43Z
       
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       @nicholas @djsumdog @arcana @dushman @FourOh-LLC @sun lmao supports capitalism then puts a sticker to smash it very hypocritical xd
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrnD1Wtp0tYOJ03eK by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
       2024-08-11T19:10:27.465Z
       
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       @lina@uwu.social @nicholas@aklp.club @djsumdog@djsumdog.com @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz @sun@shitposter.world @eemmaa@soc0.outrnat.nl Iphone vuvuzela check mate gommie. Living under capitalism doesn't somehow make you a hypocrite when you're against it. Are you expecting people to live in the forest in a fucking cave while not buying anything for their views to be valid?
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrsS0CLYPdcNNLeUq by nicholas@aklp.club
       2024-08-11T20:09:14.537004Z
       
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       Living under capitalism doesn't somehow make you a hypocrite when you're against it.I don't disagree with this, I often get the inverse argument: "You claim to be a libertarian, yet you drive on government roads. Curious."And I have never appreciated​ the "don't criticize [thing] if you don't have a better solution" meta. Identifying problems is a prerequisite to finding solutions, and even if no solution exists the criticisms can still be valid and useful.In this case, the criticisms are (imo) not valid. They either apply in general, and therefore are not unique criticisms of capitalism in comparison to other systems, or they misidentify the cause of the issue, as in: 'authoritarian government turns out to be bad instead of good (Pikachu face); it must be capitalism's fault somehow'.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrvIy2SVt6Cw16gNc by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2024-08-11T20:40:50.121553Z
       
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       That whole argument was really captured in that Matt Boros comic; probably the only comic people remember from that washed up artist who literally moved to Canada ...Something has never sat right with me with this comic; and I honestly have trouble wrapping my head around exactly what it is. Partly because I do make meaningful efforts to get away from systems I don't like (e.g. I didn't shop at Wal-mart from 2010 ~ 2021; and only because Target felt worse). You can't get away from everything, but a lot of people complain without making an effort .. or bitch at others saying it's not going to help when they do make an effort (e.g. non-proselyitizing vegans).
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrvQ2TuOTJAjzJmyW by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
       2024-08-11T20:42:23.947856Z
       
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       @djsumdog @lina @eemmaa @sun @FourOh-LLC @dushman @arcana @nicholas Just take a poll about how often people connect to youtube.com.It's all apathy in the end.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrvYZDCaPGcZMZPsW by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
       2024-08-11T20:43:57.446358Z
       
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       @djsumdog @lina @eemmaa @sun @FourOh-LLC @dushman @arcana @nicholas Just take a poll about how often people here connect to youtube.com.It's all apathy at the bottom.
       
 (DIR) Post #Akrw0WPWavqHzQfEBc by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@bae.st
       2024-08-11T20:49:06.124595Z
       
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       @djsumdog @nicholas @arcana @dushman @FourOh-LLC @sun @eemmaa @lina The first two panels are someone who wants something better for someone else, but who is contributing to their hardship needlessly. The second two panels are people who want something better for themselves, but who are forced to contribute to their own hardship.These are very different.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkrwFJIpc0LzgDaKZ6 by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
       2024-08-11T20:51:11.959329Z
       
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       I love YT shows about melting junk metals, learning no-code tool like Saltcorn, I learned a lot from others on YT. I do all I can to improve my own condition, and I do not waste my time trying to change minds.
       
 (DIR) Post #AksE0nMJNd35jERPIO by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2024-08-12T00:10:26.786718Z
       
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       You mean versus using FreeTube, yt-dlp or an Invidious server? .. or going out of your way to exclusivity use Odysee/Rumble? ... and I mean, even Rumble has Peter Thiel as a major investor ... you can't get away from modern society unless you stop watching Internet videos all together
       
 (DIR) Post #AksE3sGZagwnokE1Mu by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
       2024-08-12T00:11:17.140423Z
       
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       @djsumdog @lina @eemmaa @sun @FourOh-LLC @dushman @arcana @nicholas I just watch some stuff that gets posted here. Usually, this is a mistake, because most of the videos here are from TikTok, and there is nothing of value there either.