Post AkiHECoYPBFQiw8d28 by dayglojago@mstdn.party
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(DIR) Post #AkhPpsDc27gKKIN600 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-06T19:01:23Z
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Do you know anyone who works in a press office?Ask them "Why do so many press office give their exclusives to X? Why not post to X on, like, a 6 hour time delay (or not at all... though this might be too much for them)"We gotta stop news from "breaking" on there. Break it on blueSky, break it on tumblr I don't even care (though really break it here please and thank u)
(DIR) Post #AkhPvnvEv5e0jsbcS8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-06T19:02:29Z
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When I see news breaking on X I look down on the org (news or not) breaking it. I JUDGE you unworthy. People can click a link. You can post it later. Not even saying to delete your account (yet)
(DIR) Post #AkhQ2uciP3rRY8KYIy by neia@fedi.ikeran.org
2024-08-06T19:03:29.000Z
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@futurebird@sauropods.win Official news accounts posting their most important stuff on tumblr in the tumblr-approved Destiel format when?
(DIR) Post #AkhQ5d8Psl2eB6SF2e by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-06T19:04:17Z
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@neia There are probably a million people over forty who see this as perfectly sensible. Get with it people.
(DIR) Post #AkhQ7dIIGEcZFe1seW by TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com
2024-08-06T19:04:13Z
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@futurebird If you won't say it, I will: no serious journalist should stay on X-Twitter.
(DIR) Post #AkhQBVIxuFlJdEBo1I by MLE_online@social.afront.org
2024-08-06T19:05:12Z
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@futurebird I work in one. I no longer manage social media (thank god). I think people still post on twitter/x first because the biggest audience is still there and that's still where most journalists are.
(DIR) Post #AkhQEUUNOdoVyBx1zU by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-06T19:05:35Z
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@TruthSandwich Like any massive task we need to break this into manageable steps. The first is killing the notion that "you find out things on X first"
(DIR) Post #AkhQUsdNOQhbUJyZ4i by TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com
2024-08-06T19:08:40Z
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@futurebird I don't disagree. Disengaging from X-Twitter is the goal, but cold turkey isn't always the best way.Consider steps such as:1. As you said, not breaking the news on X-Twitter.2. Hosting a Fedi instance for that news org. So, for example, fedi.washingtonpost.com.3. Linking to your Mastodon toot from X-Twitter (daring Musk to hide it).4. Finally going from X-Twitter to Ex-Twitter by leaving.
(DIR) Post #AkhRgEAvkAI3R7e49o by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-06T19:22:01Z
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@MLE_online As I have already had this conversation with two press people (from very different orgs) they *do not* think about it all that much. In fact when orgs push stuff out they often aren't in a hurry (in case they are breaking bad news and want to test the waters)But really they have macros and old habits and most post to X first because they used to post to twitter first (a habit often acquired during natural disasters like hurricanes and snow storms)This kind of nudge can work.
(DIR) Post #AkhRq53yTelu4U5ddw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-06T19:23:38Z
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@MLE_online Many press offices got a lot of goodwill by posting to twitter which was seen as more egalitarian and public facing friendly. But is it like that anymore? How is telling the people on the creepy site about the power outage FIRST a sign that you are willing to reach out to the public through new media?It's not.
(DIR) Post #AkhS6y4thWcRKXZewS by ekg@social.librem.one
2024-08-06T19:26:53Z
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@futurebird oh I thought you meant x as in a substitute holder. My understanding is that companies chose media outlets based on favourbility of their reporting, I don't know how they pick social network. Personally I prefer when orgs host their own press releases.
(DIR) Post #AkhTT5J3bfbi4dJ6XI by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2024-08-06T19:42:03Z
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@futurebird It's all a matter of reach. Blue's reach is vastly smaller than Twitter/X. It's just the reality of the math.
(DIR) Post #AkhUZAJM0mtBHsuRWK by MLE_online@social.afront.org
2024-08-06T19:54:23Z
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@futurebird I feel like there's organizational momentum against making a big change like that. I never post my own stuff on Twitter anymore, but I do occasionally still go over there to promote articles for work because there's just no audience to speak of anywhere else that compares to the reach people get on Twitter, even now. Social media managers don't want to lose those clicks and have someone ask them what they're doing wrong.In a few years, it will be a bit of an afterthought like Facebook is now, but we're not there yet.
(DIR) Post #AkhXjGJOr6zqemR9Xs by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-06T20:29:50Z
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@Brentguernsey Because your typical press office person won't know what that is? I'm thinking about baby steps.
(DIR) Post #AkhZllvWU0fHCDaqLg by Missrdevine@mstdn.social
2024-08-06T20:52:44Z
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@futurebird Honestly don’t understand how anyone could affiliate with that platform. At all.
(DIR) Post #AkhfDxksbAyBlBsPqa by TCatInReality@mastodon.social
2024-08-06T21:53:46Z
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@futurebird 🎯And if it's an announcement from the Office of the POTUS, issue the statement at the same time to all the news agencies. Don't worry, someone will post on Twitter for you.
(DIR) Post #AkhfVQ4oYLoyWLWc8e by venitamathias@masto.ai
2024-08-06T21:56:58Z
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@futurebird Same.
(DIR) Post #AkhhVQ5ghUawTN3rrU by linebyline@bytetower.social
2024-08-06T22:19:23Z
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@futurebird CES is dead. Apple holds their own conferences and the rest of the industry followed suit. E3 is dead. Nintendo holds their own conferences and the rest of the industry followed suit. So tell me, what's stopping a big news org from breaking news *on its own gosh-darned website*? Heck, most of them already have their own native apps, so it's not like they'd even be missing out on push notifications.(Also: Reintroduce people to RSS/Atom, but that's the long game.)
(DIR) Post #AkhmCcXwfKZLN98MQi by KanaMauna@sauropods.win
2024-08-06T23:12:01Z
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@futurebird Plus now you needed Xitter account just to look at the press release. Great going guys, pick a site that automatically excludes big chunk of your potential audience. No wonder I never perused your site.
(DIR) Post #AkhsZe9fS1rokK8nvk by ToddPM@hachyderm.io
2024-08-07T00:23:24Z
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@futurebird"But that's where the biggest audience is!"ಠ_ಠ If you stop providing Twitter with free content, the audience will appear elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #AkhvWhDHvJ8lE27Ri4 by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-08-07T00:56:30Z
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@futurebird The really stupid thing is the Fediverse handily solves the problem in a universal way. It isn't 100% perfect in some ways, but for things like news/etc it pretty much solves their fundamental problems. All they have to do is host their own instances and presto, they can work across anything that can access those instances. It's not so different from hosting websites (which they already do.)There is literally no excuse that government services don't do this.
(DIR) Post #AkiEnd4iSct8RVti40 by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
2024-08-07T04:21:17Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @futurebird …yeah uh you may not have used any government web sites recently but they’re already struggling to keep something only slightly more advanced than static HTML or basically 90’s web CMS tech online, maybe don’t expect them to run a terrible Rails app as part of a distributed system that is trying to make some kind of liveness guarantees
(DIR) Post #AkiEndqDc0syoq7e6a by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-08-07T04:22:00Z
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@kevinriggle @futurebird Or maybe do.That isn't an excuse for why they shouldn't be more modern. That's a reason why they should be more modern.PS. I positively *ABHOR* arguments of "first fix x before y should be allowed to exist." x will never be fixed 100% to everyone's complete satisfaction. No progress can ever be made this way.
(DIR) Post #AkiEndzR3kG5HQR0TI by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
2024-08-07T04:21:47Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @futurebird just look at how bad government email is
(DIR) Post #AkiEnefcWu0DOGAhE0 by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
2024-08-07T04:25:27Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @futurebird so you’ll be applying for a USDR fellowship to help roll this out then
(DIR) Post #AkiEnfA6hYOAuoR2kC by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-07T04:32:26Z
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@kevinriggle @nazokiyoubinbou In NYC we have a service called 411 it's a phone service like 911 but just for NYC. It is excellent. 411 also has an app. Also excellent. There is no reason why government in the US can't do this sort of thing. The government can hire tech talent. Make things like apps and websites secure. Integrate their services. We ought to expect that from them just like we expect they have a phone number and humans who can answer calls.
(DIR) Post #AkiEthvXKmYJEDVCb2 by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
2024-08-07T04:33:32Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou Yes! And that’s the whole point of USDR https://www.usdigitalresponse.org
(DIR) Post #AkiF1v52JZaeL4rTZQ by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-07T04:35:02Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @kevinriggle Heck. The NYPL has an excellent app. (search books, even check out audiobooks on your phone) I don't see how public agencies and services that can make apps that work can't also run a little instance and post their press releases like adults. They already have staff for this at the big cities and agencies. They have tech staff to and can hire more if needed. It's ain't that deep.
(DIR) Post #AkiFgMHoaAQYIh7a2y by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-08-07T04:38:54Z
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@cinebox @Dimduning @futurebird @MLE_online "Ige later said the delay was caused in part by the fact he did not know his Twitter login information."Another reason why relying on third party services is... not good for official messaging...So official messages that the alert was an accident went out at 8:20, but people hunkered in their basements watching news instead of Twitter/FB didn't know until 8:45...
(DIR) Post #AkiFuAqTuqmGs5vLvM by Sharksonaplane@mastodon.sandwich.net
2024-08-07T04:44:50Z
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@futurebird (I believe 411 the information number is nationwide in the US…at least it used to be, along with 311 for info anout area traffic and such)
(DIR) Post #AkiG3nogON48LOfqVM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-07T04:46:36Z
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@kevinriggle @nazokiyoubinbou LOL I misremembered the number because I only really use the app. Mostly to report saplings that need to be watered. Which... works?
(DIR) Post #AkiGVr4lroDaYsZkW0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-07T04:51:40Z
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@kevinriggle @nazokiyoubinbou NYC has a tendency to buy saplings really good ones too. Four and five year old young trees. Then plant them in sidewalk wells and let them die in their first two summers before they get their roots under the sidewalks and into what remains of our pathetic water table. This is burning money and I do not understand it. If I can reach them with a hose I'll water them myself. But, I report the rest... and in every case someone came out to my utter shock.
(DIR) Post #AkiGfCAonQ5SbIrFpI by EverydayMoggie@sfba.social
2024-08-07T04:53:20Z
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It's not really necessary for each agency or government entity to run its own server. There could be a shared service that specialized in doing that for them. Government things do have an additional layer of requirements that private ones don't have, though. Maybe that makes it less simple.@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou @kevinriggle
(DIR) Post #AkiGn1a63tUC49Pn3w by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-07T04:54:47Z
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@kevinriggle @nazokiyoubinbou I made a report in the app planing to use it to complain about how they didn't take care of the trees. But they sent someone out to take care of the trees ... so now I just keep reporting saplings when I see them because they got it to the right person I guess... much to my shock.
(DIR) Post #AkiGtD7g3yv3bD4W4u by dayglojago@mstdn.party
2024-08-07T04:55:52Z
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@futurebird maybe someone did the math and realized it costs $13k or whatever to plant one if these things all said and done and they can’t afford to keep letting them die
(DIR) Post #AkiGy6j3H7qvCrt8ts by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-07T04:56:45Z
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@dayglojago I mean I did that math and explained it in my "sidewalk complaint" but I didn't think anyone would ... listen. But they did. Good job.
(DIR) Post #AkiHECoYPBFQiw8d28 by dayglojago@mstdn.party
2024-08-07T04:59:36Z
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@futurebird I have a feeling Republicans work so hard to cripple gov because if it worked smoothly and was properly funded, people would *love* it
(DIR) Post #AkiHTxjiEUtKaqO3d2 by bcdavid@hachyderm.io
2024-08-07T05:01:41Z
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@cinebox @Dimduning @futurebird @MLE_online We at least got this masterpiece out of that incident.http://web.archive.org/web/20180116130750/https://gfycat.com/QueasyGrandIriomotecat
(DIR) Post #AkiIO3F8wf0PtCpkqe by lizzard@mastodon.social
2024-08-07T05:12:39Z
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@futurebird @kevinriggle @nazokiyoubinbou the SF 311 works quite well! I use it and they respond pretty fast to sidewalk complaints and so on. I also send compliments!
(DIR) Post #AkiIgVinnmTVQTVau8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-07T05:15:42Z
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@atthenius @kevinriggle @nazokiyoubinbou @990000 I don't know what the arrangement is? I just know that over the 18 years I've been in this neighborhood there are several streets where I've watched them ... struggle. Heck maybe they passed my complaint to the nursery. But that's the whole point of a centralized app to correctly route information. On at least two of the streets I've been concerned about the trees are at last established. And it will be cooler year after year.
(DIR) Post #Akils8ZwZNsnnNGGRc by IngaLovinde@embracing.space
2024-08-07T10:42:50Z
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@futurebird @dayglojago it's the same in Moscow, except that nobody will act on your complaints because there is a huge amount of money to be done on supplying the entire city worth of saplings every 1-2 years 🙃(And that's also the reason why they only use annual plants for flowers. Can't get these sweet budget money flowing with perennials!)
(DIR) Post #AkiskxAlHKai4W0Jg8 by Rhodepvd@romancelandia.club
2024-08-07T12:00:04Z
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@futurebird In Providence, where all new sidewalk trees are partially paid for by a foundation a woman provided, they won’t plant one without a watering plan. Either the homeowner, longterm tenants or business owner must agree to water it. If it’s an area with no homes or businesses, then we have another nonprofit founded by a woman that trains and employs people getting out of prison to care for the new trees.
(DIR) Post #Akj2jy3fV2304Qr4Sm by glecharles@zirk.us
2024-08-07T13:52:03Z
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@futurebird I think Flipboard's work in getting a lot of mainstream (traditional and digital) media outlets federated here has notably increased the news signal over the past six months. It's not quite breaking news territory yet, but it's significantly collapsed the lag time — for better and worse.
(DIR) Post #Akj2ql3CGAoxkss8g4 by glecharles@zirk.us
2024-08-07T13:53:17Z
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@futurebird I think Flipboard's work in getting a lot of mainstream (traditional and digital) media outlets federated here has notably increased the news signal over the past six months. It's not quite breaking news territory yet, but it's significantly collapsed the lag time — for better and worse.https://flipboard.social/@NewsDesk/112638591219035657
(DIR) Post #Akj32KTYtEwIoHiooi by rednikki@toot.boston
2024-08-07T13:55:20Z
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@futurebird Break it on Tumblr using the Destiel meme format.
(DIR) Post #AkkoO94QrhrGoNpfDU by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
2024-08-07T05:34:48Z
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@EverydayMoggie @futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou The wild and welcome success of Login.gov says that such a thing is very much possible. It’s just, you know, work (Over the years I’ve been involved in work that was tangential to various .gov software efforts like the healthcare.gov recovery so)
(DIR) Post #AkkoO9zVRVVnfOXFB2 by darnell@one.darnell.one
2024-08-08T10:16:43Z
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@kevinriggle @EverydayMoggie @futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou Ironically many government agencies are on #Threads, although they do not share to the #Fediverse yet. Examples: 👉🏾 https://www.threads.net/@nycgov 👉🏾 https://www.threads.net/@librarycongress 👉🏾 https://www.threads.net/@secretservice 👉🏾 https://www.threads.net/@statedept 👉🏾 https://www.threads.net/@laportpolice 👉🏾 https://www.threads.net/@mplsgov
(DIR) Post #AkkoOARrk4CH5LntNg by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
2024-08-07T05:37:03Z
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@EverydayMoggie @futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou (any day my boss doesn’t have to testify in front of congress is a good day)