Post AkZlpp9e4Jw2YCDa7c by dalias@hachyderm.io
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(DIR) Post #AkYygZl52wyoRKgkPg by Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de
2024-08-02T16:48:37Z
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If Codeberg is trying to "compete" against GitHub and GitLab, why does it refuse to take a look at AI assistants? Apart from infringing on authors' rights and questionable output quality, we think that the current hype wave led by major companies will leave a climate disaster in its wake: https://disconnect.blog/generative-ai-is-a-climate-disaster/Other _sustainable_ (and cheaper!) ways for increasing efficiency in software development exist: In-project communication, powerful automation pipelines and reducing boilerplate.
(DIR) Post #AkZ28tJCFiAl2pq6mu by threat@ryona.agency
2024-08-02T17:58:15.337641Z
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@Codeberg take my money. please.
(DIR) Post #AkZ2iNt4YO4U1BXp8y by sun@shitposter.world
2024-08-02T18:04:43.895534Z
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@Codeberg wait until u hear about the waste of time that is the number one use of GPUs: video games
(DIR) Post #AkZ2wk5anuuOvkFODo by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-08-02T18:07:17.228106Z
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Wait, tell him to attack Microsoft. Even if it's for climate cult reasons.https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/microsofts-electricity-use-has-doubled-between-2020-2023
(DIR) Post #AkZ3An50TwyOG9fijY by sun@shitposter.world
2024-08-02T18:09:52.214126Z
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@thendrix @Codeberg I agree with them, GPUs are overwhelmingly used for wasteful purposes (games, AI, cryptocurrency) and this drastically impacts the environment.
(DIR) Post #AkZ3G2XyP2Fjg6iwVM by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-08-02T18:10:48.331993Z
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Well, they could just be used for automated asymmetric warfare 100% soon. Be careful what you wish for...
(DIR) Post #AkZ3NqndxkN7YrmI7s by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
2024-08-02T18:11:48.146445Z
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@sun @Codeberg @thendrix Return to sprite graphics. :blobfoxangry: :blobfoxgooglytrash:
(DIR) Post #AkZ3Pjmd1K4yNbCdHs by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-08-02T18:12:33.699898Z
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I'm going to bet video decoding eats more power than games still.
(DIR) Post #AkZJjCscf7eXOFJPbE by mupan@digitalcourage.social
2024-08-02T17:23:54Z
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@Codeberg I fully agree and add that »AI« is intended, created and developed (further) to be a surveillance, manipulation, control, and oppression network in every net IT application far beyond the obvious quality and job killer features. Rainer Mühlhoff made clear in a C3 event not long ago that »AI« is a vast global data collection project failing the check against every social criterion in the United Nations sustainability charta. He has analysed our (the majority's) everyday’s IT routines, describes the mobile IT world and, more and more, PC net applications as feedback loops to collect training and socioeconomic data for GAFAM AI development and Big Data stores.
(DIR) Post #AkZJjDdPr95DjNCmXI by frogzone@wizard.casa
2024-08-02T21:15:20.925173Z
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@mupan @Codeberg well said.>Rainer Mühlhoff made clear in a C3 event not long ago that »AI« is a vast global data collection projectim interested to see this.... is it on fedi or peertube?>feedback loops to collect training and socioeconomic data for GAFAM AI development and Big Data storeshave you heard the the acronym CAGEMAFIA(includes cloudflare, e.muskrat, intel, akamai)?
(DIR) Post #AkZlnnMjkTXYQJNG2C by spudwart@mas.to
2024-08-03T01:26:13Z
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@Codeberg any company or project that passes on AI has basically proven to me they’re competent. AI is the ultimate intelligence test. If you invest in it, you fail.
(DIR) Post #AkZlpp9e4Jw2YCDa7c by dalias@hachyderm.io
2024-08-03T02:27:27Z
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@Codeberg The biggest "competitive advantage" is *not having* unwanted AI garbage all over the place, not mining your users' code to offer to others as plagiarism material.
(DIR) Post #AkZlppjntsrIML8STw by dalias@hachyderm.io
2024-08-03T02:29:37Z
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@Codeberg More broadly, I see "not trying to be an IDE"/not trying to be "VS code web edition" as a huge competitive advantage. GitHub completely broke their UI for actual use (reading code, studying history, researching bugs) by making it into an awful klunky editor that's completely unusable on mobile.
(DIR) Post #AkbEP8xbPmwJzGAuga by mupan@digitalcourage.social
2024-08-03T08:57:40Z
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@frogzone @Codeberg I didn’t know the acronym CAGEMAFIA before. Thank you.It’s almost in Fediverse, it’s on @mediacccde . Easiest browsed and searched with @newpipe. Since many asked (I’m happy!), I added the link in the original toot.Thank you for liking my phrasing.
(DIR) Post #AkbEPABoqPuDndpmU4 by frogzone@wizard.casa
2024-08-03T19:25:04.772840Z
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@mupan @Codeberg thanks i'll look it up!> I added the link in the original tootinteresting.... is that the toot starting with "I fully agree and add that »AI« is intended...."? the link isnt not showing up in ur toot still, maybe the edit isnt propagating but need to confirm that we're talking bout the same toot. :)>Thank youits my pleasure to help ppl fight the tecnofash :)
(DIR) Post #AkdXzjaD16nJRNJX7I by s_levi_s@mastodon.social
2024-08-03T06:59:57Z
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@Codeberg Very weak argument imo. How are the servers for codeberg powered?
(DIR) Post #AkdXzkJaIP5fi6XlqK by Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de
2024-08-03T15:53:46Z
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@s_levi_s Codeberg is running a single server (~130W) on renewable energy. We know that we can reach more efficiency, mostly because we don't benefit from scaling effects yet.The difference is more like this:- we do not encourage users to use more resources, because it would cost us more. Most competitors do the opposite (e.g. recommending the use of heavy CI pipelines), simply because it makes more revenue- we do not spend any computing power on tracking and unnecessary data collection
(DIR) Post #AkdXzljr0DhK7rqGQa by Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de
2024-08-03T15:56:29Z
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@s_levi_s - we do not live in a careless "enterprice" environment: We reuse failing server SSDs for our private use, we know that others regularly replace just as a precaution- we do not spend excess resources on high availability, due to a simple 80/20 rule: 80% gain with 20% effort. We know we could add more spare servers, more sophisticated backups, replace hardware more often to avoid potential failures ... but we don't. It's a waste of resources (incl. our donations).~f
(DIR) Post #AkdYGwWCB2ZoTudtUu by s_levi_s@mastodon.social
2024-08-04T04:22:46Z
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@Codeberg So the main difference is your claim to operate more energy efficient and waste less resources? You are still using resources... what is than the problem with an AI assistant created following your standards?
(DIR) Post #AkdYGx0gLgxm0SuF16 by Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de
2024-08-04T06:54:46Z
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@s_levi_s Our original argument was that we should improve society somewhat. Yet we participate in it, however, that does not contradict what we say, even if we were not doing all of these things.The problem with what you mentioned is that it is completely hypothetical (the article explains it), similarly to cryptocurrencies! And that even if it wasn't: Wasting hardware and AI scraping the entire Internet (not all of which is powered by renewable energy) 100 times is much less sustainable. ^n
(DIR) Post #AkdYGz78WfJYX3wQM4 by glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
2024-08-04T15:05:36Z
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@alexskunz @toxomat "doesn't get us anywhere. It's just a feel-good technique."This is a discourse killer and I advise against deploying it. I'd like to point out that I didn't accuse you of dishonesty (nobody here did) and ask that you give us the same respect.
(DIR) Post #AkdYH0z3Zg2WKaB02S by gi124@mastodon.social
2024-08-02T19:27:22Z
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@Codeberg You're open source, and run by a non-profit. That's good enough for me, and I've started moving all my projects over.The fact that we see eye to eye on AI assistants isn't a co-incidence... 😄(Thank you for your wonderful and free service.)
(DIR) Post #AkdYH14NFuIEb4fFKK by wernerprise@mastodon.bits-und-baeume.org
2024-08-02T18:29:39Z
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@Codeberg Thank you. I’m following @gerrymcgovern who tirelessly points out the terrible, disastrous effects of “AI” on the environment.
(DIR) Post #AkdYH1bLHKfGFK5ZiK by agbuckley@mastodon.social
2024-08-02T23:05:15Z
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@Codeberg Amen. Reduce boilerplate, don't automate its generation in code that then needs to be maintained
(DIR) Post #AkdYH2MqQif6ceJVku by blaise@fosstodon.org
2024-08-02T20:04:03Z
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@Codeberg Bravo!BTW, there's a difference between "compete with GitHub" and "emulate GitHub".
(DIR) Post #AkdZgSL96LlwMvCgam by mupan@digitalcourage.social
2024-08-03T20:13:27Z
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@frogzone @CodebergYes, https://digitalcourage.social/@mupan/112893587229279358mupan - @Codeberg I fully agree and add that »AI« is intended, created and developed (further) to be a surveillance, manipulation, control, and oppression network in every net IT application far beyond the obvious quality and job killer features. Rainer Mühlhoff made clear in a C3 event not long ago that »AI« is a vast global data collection project failing the check against (almost) every social criterion in the United Nations sustainability charta. He has analysed our (the majority's) everyday’s IT routines, describes the mobile IT world and, more and more, PC net applications as feedback loops to collect training and socioeconomic data for GAFAM AI development and Big Data stores.KI – Macht – Ungleichheit. https://media.ccc.de/v/ce4743cc-50ad-4597-bcc8-58e1a7e53c20
(DIR) Post #Ake9JJPvhtIYNthkps by glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
2024-08-04T14:16:12Z
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@alexskunz @toxomat You wrote:"humans and western civilization are a bigger climate disaster"What I meant in my reply was: Don't you want tor replace "humans and western" by "capitalism"?I have recently come around to the insight that there is nothing wrong with homo sapiens per se, but rather with a specific program running on their brains (the capitalist program)....
(DIR) Post #Ake9JMgLZJDGVgPPLE by glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
2024-08-04T14:18:05Z
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@alexskunz @toxomat Resource consumption is a problem, but there is, frankly, as long as consumption is so unequally distributed, no way to map this to "too many people on this planet". We just have to reduce consumption (and CO2 emissions) and start with the most obvious hot spots. That's just plain old optimization wisdom.
(DIR) Post #Ake9JPUl6qj5Ec0hCC by glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
2024-08-04T14:18:32Z
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@alexskunz @toxomat "Many people" is just not a factor that correlates with the hot spots of consumption.