Post AkT032K8SKCKPVbEfo by trinsec@trinsec.org
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(DIR) Post #AkSoNxvcnHOFPTLeVM by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T17:38:49Z
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Remember that time we elected a president with rapidly progressing dementia and all the democrats would block you or call you a Nazi and disagree with you when you pointed it out. Then his own party dropped him for having dementia....Good times, good times.#USPol #Biden
(DIR) Post #AkSoW6yx1573o1mwIi by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-07-30T17:40:46Z
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@freemo Hey, I'm one of those folks. There was a pretty big difference between his campaigning/debating skills in 2020 vs 2024, which is what led us to change our minds. He's just not the man he was.
(DIR) Post #AkSoW7igH3h05rBSa0 by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T17:45:52Z
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@louis And yet, I had no trouble seeing the obvious dementia in 2020 and was clearly correct. The only difference is the dementia progressed to the point that it got worse and at a certain point no amount of denial will get you through it.But the fact is, reflect on that. Clearly people were screaming he had dementia, the fact that you didnt think he did and it turned out he did suggests perhaps you were blinded to the truth and couldnt see what was obvious to everyone else. The real takeaway here is if you couldnt even tell a person with severe rapid onset dementia has a problem, what other issues are you unable to see due to biases? Perhaps you should rethink how harshly you criticize someones opinion of your candidate as well if you were blocking people who said that.
(DIR) Post #AkSoW8UtNoG0VNjxj6 by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T17:48:26Z
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@louis @trinsec Werent you one of the ones who were pretty adamant about him not having dementia. I mean you didnt block and were always polite about it. But I do remember you arguing pretty strongly you didnt see any signs of dementia no? I'm curious now that the party itself has dropped him due to it, have you changed your mind?
(DIR) Post #AkSoWiQtm8S9xQ9HV2 by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-07-30T17:48:20Z
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@freemo Lol, well I wasn't calling people Nazis or blocking them. Just disagreeing.Dementia's a sliding scale. People at the beginning are very high-functioning. So, yes, while he may have been in early stages back then, it wasn't debilitating enough to disqualify him.
(DIR) Post #AkSoWjbvOcrpbuJbKC by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T17:50:30Z
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@louis Oh well nothing too bad about just disagreeing and being wrong. But even so sounds like a good opportunity to reflect and consider what other blind spots you may have, since that was a pretty big one IMO.Are you saying back then you would have admitted he had dementia but just that his dementia was mild enough you voted for him anyway? Because thats a very different argument then disagreeing with people who claimed he had dementia at all.
(DIR) Post #AkSwWvXLr0diESmLJI by trinsec@trinsec.org
2024-07-30T18:06:37.375Z
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@freemo@qoto.org @louis@ingenthron.social Huh, what? I don't recall. Was it a convo of like 4 years ago? If so, he wasn't that bad back then. He was fairly functional for a long while.He might have accelerated dementia now, it can come on rather fast. It sucks. People get stubborn and self-defensive when they feel they get attacked due to forgetfulness, it's part of that disease. It's only going to get worse, I feel for his family.Now look at Trump, he's clearly showing signs of dementia for a long while now and people still worship him. :P
(DIR) Post #AkSwWwjRPXu7wFRVnE by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T18:09:07Z
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@trinsec Yes this would have been 4 years ago. You argued he didnt appear to have dementia, I claimed he did. While he may have been more functional you must admit you were incorrect in your assesment he didnt have dementia. My argument was not that his dementia at the time made him unfit but it was rapidly progressing and thus unfit for a 4 year term, which was true, and at the time you defended against.Trump shows signs of stupidity, but no he doesnt show signs of dementia of anykind, just plain old idiocy.@louis
(DIR) Post #AkT032K8SKCKPVbEfo by trinsec@trinsec.org
2024-07-30T19:00:13.283Z
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@freemo@qoto.org @louis@ingenthron.social Wait, 'you must admit'? Do you have actual proof then that he did have dementia 4 years ago? :P And even if he'd have dementia 4 years ago, who's to say that it was rapidly progressing at that time?Meh, don't make assumptions.
(DIR) Post #AkT033cxboqmSBPmee by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T19:05:44Z
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@trinsec The proof would be that he has dementia now and that dementia takes at least 4 or 5 years to progress to this point. So if he has dementia now he most certainly had it then.Are you arguing he didnt have dementia then and I was wrong and he just suddenly developed it recently and the two are unrelated? That seems like some mental gymnastics honestly.And we can say it was rapidly progressing at the time because we can see how severe it is now 4 years later. The only dementia that sets in that quickly or faster is mad cow disease form (months)... but in his case progressing this far in 4 years would count as the second fastest progressing type (lewy body demntia) at least. so yea, absolutely rapidly progressing.@louis
(DIR) Post #AkT034k5So93uZkzOy by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-07-30T19:13:21Z
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@freemo @trinsec Are you certain that you're aware of every other possible medical explanation for the symptoms you've seen and have thoroughly and systematically eliminated them? Without ever having met the patient in person?This feels very much like that parable of the blinded man who felt an elephant's leg and declared confidently that it was the trunk of a tree.
(DIR) Post #AkT035rDJnRLMy6C9I by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T19:25:09Z
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@louis Being certain of something or asserting it as fact is not the same as saying every possible explanation no matter how unlikely is considered. I mean I also cant prove we arent sitting int he matrix and Biden isnt some sort of computer program.When we assert certainty, even a doctor, we do so "beyond a reasonable doubt". I am certain "beyond a reasonable doubt" he had dementia, and I turned out to be correct. Does that mean there isnt a 0.000001% chance it is something else... sure, but no one talks like that. Nothing in life is ever certain without any possibility of doubt of any kind. But once it is past a certain threshold we talk and interact as if it is an absolute fact, as well we should.Whats more important to me is my track record.. When i have high confidence does the percentage of times i turn out to be right match my confidence. If so, it is well founded. @trinsec
(DIR) Post #AkT036cMUV9bjC9qdc by IceCubeSoup@noauthority.social
2024-07-30T20:06:34Z
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Maybe it wasn't dementia!! Maybe it was something else equally as debilitating!! And that's somehow better, riiigggghhht, guys?@freemo @louis @trinsec
(DIR) Post #AkT0nOeNmK4eyZAzFA by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T20:14:58Z
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@IceCubeSoup @louis @trinsec Good point. Regardless of anything else the man was walking around trying to shake hands with people that werent there and the democrats were going "seems fine to me!"
(DIR) Post #AkTAwGo5JD0inVaHXE by sergeant@qoto.org
2024-07-30T20:47:31Z
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@freemo @trinsec @louis It's Parkinson.
(DIR) Post #AkTAwI0sp6qIXUa17g by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T21:28:15Z
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@sergeant @trinsec @louis No, absolutely not. His inability to speak, think, imagining people that arent there, confusion, none of that is typical of parkinsons. He also doesnt have any shaking.
(DIR) Post #AkTB0kqrXqPp8d1QSe by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-30T22:09:25.269383Z
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@freemo @louis @sergeant @trinsec @freemo @sergeant @trinsec @louis What if he has #Parkinsons AND #Dementia?You don't meet with a #Parkinsons expert for several months if you don't have #Parkinsons.
(DIR) Post #AkTE9XkNw6AyxpsHZY by louis@ingenthron.social
2024-07-30T22:13:52Z
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@realcaseyrollins @freemo @sergeant @trinsec ...you do if you're working on legislation to help fund Parkinsons research. 🤦‍♂️ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/legislation/2024/07/02/bill-signed-h-r-2365/
(DIR) Post #AkTY9fvXWObRPuQrgm by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-30T22:57:51Z
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@louis Or if you want everyone to think you have parkinsons instead of dementia. Lets not forget the lie he pulled to everyone in the 2020 election that "oh no its not dementia I just have stuttering problem", no one but the democrats bought that for a second. @realcaseyrollins @sergeant @trinsec
(DIR) Post #AkTY9h2fNNtisIm4R6 by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-31T02:28:40.809217Z
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@freemo @louis @sergeant @trinsec Neither explanations are satisfactory. If #JoeBiden either a) was drafting #Parkinsons legislation with a #Parkinsons expert, or b) wanted the public to think he had #Parksons instead of #Dementia, his team wouldn’t have pushed back on this story so hard even though it was true:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/letter-white-house-physician-addresses-parkinsons-expert-visits-rcna160803
(DIR) Post #AkTaBoPN9wyQCyX6sS by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-31T02:42:45Z
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@realcaseyrollins I have a lot of experience with Parkinson (worked with it clinically and my mom has it).. His symptoms dont remotely line up with Parkinson, nor are his motor control issues consistent with parkinsons.So any speculation aside even a casual familiarity with Parkinson would tell someone this isnt it.@louis @sergeant @trinsec
(DIR) Post #AkTaBpJjmO3n1mu7jU by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-31T02:51:31.211000Z
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@freemo @louis @sergeant @trinsec Maybe someone else in the family has #Parkinsons?
(DIR) Post #AkTc1RWNb7auEozgOG by freemo@qoto.org
2024-07-31T02:58:05Z
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@realcaseyrollins That is very possible. Onset age is typically >60.It is possible Biden has early symptoms of parkinsons, early enough they arent showing publicly. But if that is the case it would be likely unrelated to his dementia.Also keep in mind there is a type of dementia called parkinsons dementia where he has the symptoms of both with a common underlying cause (lewy body dementia is common)... so if parkinsons is involved it is clearly alongside dementia.@louis @sergeant @trinsec