Post Ak2vHj3snqo58JDzCS by EdCates@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #Ak2uZG9YvGBkjXg5mi by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-18T06:02:14Z
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No working screen reader for nine years* but, hey, you folks want some AI with that?Let Fedora know what you think in their survey to add generative AI to the operating system:https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/142117?lang=en#AI #LLM #GenerativeAI #Fedora #a11y #priorities* https://ar.al/2024/06/23/fedora-has-been-shipping-with-a-broken-screen-reader-for-nine-years-but-the-real-problem-is-me/ https://fedi.jaenis.ch/@andre/statuses/01J324KTD59W35MWBCKSC6YM6N
(DIR) Post #Ak2utHxRvGTS7dYxKy by ed@livellosegreto.it
2024-07-18T06:05:50Z
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@aral
(DIR) Post #Ak2vHj3snqo58JDzCS by EdCates@mastodon.social
2024-07-18T06:10:16Z
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@aral "Should we shoehorn a planet-killing marketing buzzword/privacy nightmare into Fedora?"Sure, Jan. Sounds like a keen plan. đ
(DIR) Post #Ak2vsTC8l4xYdabkKu by dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
2024-07-18T06:16:37Z
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@aralThe whole thing: insult to an injury.But why ask if English is your primary language?What next? Asking if your primary skin color is melanin-deprieved enough?
(DIR) Post #Ak2vyXaFLzefzEmJ72 by MarkDW@mstdn.social
2024-07-18T06:17:56Z
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@aral ta! Have submitted my thoughts to Fedora đđ
(DIR) Post #Ak2xaPeFPE28KkGw0u by rejzor@mastodon.world
2024-07-18T06:36:01Z
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@aral If it's local and useful like transcription of speech app or desktop wide, then why not. Anything connected to big cloud Ai corporations with fetching of data online, then hell no.
(DIR) Post #Ak2xwj7TgyAZ5taJ5E by texhewson@datasci.social
2024-07-18T06:40:01Z
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@aral I've just given up swearing so I don't think I can fill in this survey right now ;-)
(DIR) Post #Ak2yTHTvTDBavtbjF2 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-18T06:45:58Z
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@rejzor Basically what I wrote. Oh, and is the screen reader working yet?
(DIR) Post #Ak2zvV34ipZ54Y4H20 by greenWhale@dice.camp
2024-07-18T07:02:04Z
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@aral all this eye rolling is bad for my sight.
(DIR) Post #Ak2zyU4Yo7g0ujBZWy by zleap@qoto.org
2024-07-18T07:02:05Z
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@aral Maybe they need to fork the project to the AI stuff can be added to say Fedora AIHaving System D forced on people cause fractures in the community, this could do the same.
(DIR) Post #Ak326XyeNE7DFVOT68 by Sevoris@mastodon.social
2024-07-18T07:26:38Z
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@aral âŚwhy does an OS where you can pipe from place to place easily require OS-level integration for calling an API? Like whatâs the actual engineering problem here that third-party software couldnât solve incredibly easy?
(DIR) Post #Ak32hEBiubkAaZ01BY by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-18T07:33:18Z
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@Sevoris Next youâre gonna tell me IBM doesnât need any more money.(Row, row, row your boat, gently down the streamâŚ)
(DIR) Post #Ak34LFNnzMc1peITeC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-18T07:51:43Z
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@esoteric_programmer Itâs not bundled if itâs an APIâŚ
(DIR) Post #Ak34YZg7qG3sXfDlse by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-18T07:54:08Z
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Hey, maybe the AI can fix the screen readerâŚ#fedora #AI #a11y #accessibility #screenReader #wayland
(DIR) Post #Ak34vKppCDDBALbwOW by vger@fidget.place
2024-07-18T07:58:14Z
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@aral "Is English your first language?"Why is that important?
(DIR) Post #Ak35OrQd5o0QeQuApU by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-18T08:03:37Z
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@vger Donno, maybe they discount non-English replies as âdidnât understand the question.â :) Less cynically, they might have an internal debate about whether itâs worth issuing surveys in multiple languages and theyâre gathering data to make a decision (because, goodness forbid, we make those decisions on what would be the right thing to do instead of what a number tells us to do).
(DIR) Post #Ak37mUwKYYurlJ8EUq by m@martinh.net
2024-07-18T08:30:13Z
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@aral My Fedora AI survey response: "There are literally no problems that AI can solve in Fedora. AI can, however, create a lot of new problems..."
(DIR) Post #Ak38Q41o25pFsdYk5o by piyuv@techhub.social
2024-07-18T08:37:24Z
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@aral thatâd be too much utility for AI, not acceptable
(DIR) Post #Ak39OJX9VpAhLRx104 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-18T08:48:21Z
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@esoteric_programmer Theyâre just putting their feelers out but, yes, itâll either be local models (not necessarily bad, e.g., local machine translation) or API (ChatGPT, etc.) Fedora wonât include non-free software. Not for any ideological reason; IBM doesnât want the liability. So for the same reason Firefox canât play videos on Fedora.
(DIR) Post #Ak39YNfD0oNz38WGBs by ramin_hal9001@emacs.ch
2024-07-18T08:50:02Z
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> "Hey, maybe the AI can fix the screen readerâŚ"@aral of course. Just take a screenshot of the whole screen, send it to an online service to do optical character recognition and run text-to-speech, send the audio back to the client, just like Microsoft Recall.
(DIR) Post #Ak3BFqzVwszIPhJJBI by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-18T09:09:04Z
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@simon_w Iâm not sure what gave you that idea. Linux is open as is open for business.
(DIR) Post #Ak3NAZOFA2KLpJ7lMO by EndlessMason@hachyderm.io
2024-07-18T11:22:41Z
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@aralMaybe we don't want their team of AI chuds working on the screen reader?
(DIR) Post #Ak5ieapwpghiM49z9c by flaviusflavius@mastodon.online
2024-07-19T14:32:46Z
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@aral @rejzor It is working for me on wayland and I'm on arch. I had to patch it myself and it's still scary how flaky it is. Sadly, the issue is an infinite loop which I imagine would be hard to debug for a blind user while managing two screen readers at the same time.